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2009-01-07, 18:16

hi im new here, my purpose for joining was to ask this question. i love macs, but i cant stand the limitations. i use an ibook g4 and it does the job and ive used the newest macbook pro but still i would want it designed to my specs. im not talking the specs on the apple store. i want to build my own mac. im not talking about the hackintosh pc thing that runs you 300 bucks. im talkin soldering sweating etc to fully make a mac. a company that mass produces a product doesnt put the care and thought that someone building it just for themselves would. i heard somewhere that apple was going to use a different processer before intel (not intel) i forget the name. but things like that i want to create my own you know? anyways im rambling so if anyone has a thought to share about my idea heres the place.

"if a bunch of dolphins are called a pod, then what do you call a bunch of ipods?"

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2009-01-07, 18:26

Woah, Macs ain't anatomically correct?!?!?!
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2009-01-07, 18:27

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hi im new here, my purpose for joining was to ask this question. i love macs, but i cant stand the limitations. i use an ibook g4 and it does the job and ive used the newest macbook pro but still i would want it designed to my specs. im not talking the specs on the apple store. i want to build my own mac. im not talking about the hackintosh pc thing that runs you 300 bucks. im talkin soldering sweating etc to fully make a mac. a company that mass produces a product doesnt put the care and thought that someone building it just for themselves would. i heard somewhere that apple was going to use a different processer before intel (not ppc not intel) i forget the name. but things like that i want to create my own you know? anyways im rambling so if anyone has a thought to share about my idea heres the place.
Wait a minute. Did you just say you want to run OS X on something other than PPC or Intel? Have fun with that.
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2009-01-07, 18:29

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Woah, Macs ain't anatomically correct?!?!?!
well, for one theyre not very expandable. my ibook was the top of the line ibook maxed out with the works and now its crap. desktops have like four ram slots and u can stash a few hard drives. why dont they have a nice expandable laptop?

"if a bunch of dolphins are called a pod, then what do you call a bunch of ipods?"
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2009-01-07, 18:31

no punctuation/capitalization/dr
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2009-01-07, 18:32

there are different ppc's (sorry the processor i mentioned was a ppc just more powerful) such as the ps3 ppc, a few ibm servers etc. all have ppc.
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2009-01-07, 18:33

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no punctuation/capitalization/dr
all due respect, this is the internet.
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2009-01-07, 18:38

wat

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no punctuation/capitalization/dr
all due respect, this is the internet.
Meaning we have every right to ignore you if you don't want to type in a manner that is readable.
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2009-01-07, 18:40

A couple things.

I think you may be thinking of the G5, basically the next edition of the PPC. They used it in the iMacs and PowerMacs, but never made it to the laptops.

And with regard to punctuation, you'll get a lot more answers and a better response overall if you actually take the time to write in a coherent way.

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2009-01-07, 18:42

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all due respect, this is the internet.
That's fine...and with equally due respect I posit that you might be posting from a device that may allow you to form sentences familiar to those of us who actually enjoy the use of letterforms. They are quite sexy, used properly.

So it goes.
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2009-01-07, 18:42

Macs are notoriously difficult to breed in captivity, but there are some known methods. First, show them some Mac porn. I recommend any of Jobs' recent keynotes, but make sure you add porno music to the background. Then, release the female and male parts into the same part of the forest--they simply won't mate on your desktop or workbench. Use RFID chips to track them.

They will mate, though like the blue whale, no one knows where or how they do it. AppleInsider has heard rumors it involves a touchpad; MacRumors has a "trusted source" who believes it involves a firewire cable and a magsafe adapter, but no one can be sure. Once they have mated, they generally will lay their eggs under an oak tree at the top of a sunny hill near 1 Infinite Loop, Cupertino, CA. Wait 11 months (the gestation period), dig up the eggs, and sit on them for another month, keeping them at a carefully controlled 71.5F.

When the Macling hatches, you will need to feed it. Swallow, then carefully regurgitate Leopard install disks into its mouth to do this. Then, send some badly focused pictures, preferably taken in an elevator in low-lighting, to MacRumors. In a few short weeks, the hype will cause your Macling will become a full-fleged Mac, and can be used for all your dicking around needs.


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2009-01-07, 18:47

I'm going to be a cynic and say he's doing it deliberately to rile us all up...
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2009-01-07, 18:51

I don't know. I assume he has a valid question (in which case I'm more than willing to help). If I could get past the first line I'd honestly try.

So it goes.
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2009-01-07, 18:54

One thing you can do on a Mac is enter Time Machine, flip back to the years 1995 – 1997 and put a nice little system together for yourself. Power Computing had some nice deals. Well I'm just saying..
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2009-01-07, 18:55

Wait... you're complaining that laptops aren't as d.i.y. configurable as desktops... for $300 plus your l33t expert soldering skills?

Have you considered a career as a Flat Earth mapmaker or Court Astrologer/Alchemist?

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2009-01-07, 18:57

Step 1: Learn a lot about the underpinnings of Mac OS X
Step 2: Learn a lot about chip design and manufacture.
Step 3: Buy or build a chip manufacturing plant.
Step 4: Get out soldering iron
Step 5: ?????
Step 6: Profit
(Step 7: Gigantic losses during inevitable lawsuit.)
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2009-01-07, 18:59

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all due respect, this is the internet.


Surely that doesn't mean what I think it does (that we should throw all the readability and writing rules out the window, and adopt some impossible-to-read style of writing, etc.).

Yeah, it's "the Internet", but some things are still important and matter.



"It's the Internet" shouldn't be an excuse for anything.

"Yeah, I'm whacking off to JPEGs of some goats having a three-way on a go-kart...but, all due respect, it's the Internet."

See? Doesn't work.

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2009-01-07, 19:00

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Power Computing had some nice deals. Well I'm just saying..
I still have a PC clone (266Mhz I think) and a StarMax!

*does butt dance for no reason*
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2009-01-07, 19:03

When I worked at Camp Pendleton, we had StarMax clones (Motorola, were they?). Seems like a whole lifetime ago. Pre-Jobs return era, etc. (mid-90's). A friend of mine had PowerComputing stuff at his house. I remember their "Fight Back for the Mac!" ads in MacUser and other magazines.

A strange time.

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2009-01-07, 19:07

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I don't know. I assume he has a valid question (in which case I'm more than willing to help). If I could get past the first line I'd honestly try.
thank you for assuming correctly.
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2009-01-07, 19:11

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Step 1: Learn a lot about the underpinnings of Mac OS X
Step 2: Learn a lot about chip design and manufacture.
Step 3: Buy or build a chip manufacturing plant.
Step 4: Get out soldering iron
Step 5: ?????
Step 6: Profit
(Step 7: Gigantic losses during inevitable lawsuit.)
It would only result in a lawsuit if you tried to sell it to the public. Apple's license agreement states that OSX is licensed to you and you alone and not for commercial use on any other platform than a Mac.

YeahYeah I started capitalizing stuff. *applause*

"if a bunch of dolphins are called a pod, then what do you call a bunch of ipods?"
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2009-01-07, 19:16

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It would only result in a lawsuit if you tried to sell it to the public. Apple's license agreement states that OSX is licensed to you and you alone and not for commercial use on any other platform than a Mac.
Correction: Not for any use on anything other than a Mac.

Direct quote from the EULA for Mac OS X 10.5, section 2.A:
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This License allows you to install, use and run one (1) copy of the Apple Software on a single Apple-labeled computer at a time. You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so. This License does not allow the Apple Software to exist on more than one computer at a time, and you may not make the Apple Software available over a network where it could be used by multiple computers at the same time.
Emphasis mine.

Of course, it's still highly unlikely that Apple would do anything if you tinkered on your own personal machine and never distributed information about your mods.

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2009-01-07, 19:19

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A couple things.

I think you may be thinking of the G5, basically the next edition of the PPC. They used it in the iMacs and PowerMacs, but never made it to the laptops.

And with regard to punctuation, you'll get a lot more answers and a better response overall if you actually take the time to write in a coherent way.
Not the g5. I'm talking about the transition between PPC and Intel. Apple was originally going with a different processor choice.(Can't for the life of me find a link or remember the name)

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2009-01-07, 19:22

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thank you for assuming correctly.
Awesome.

So, would you be kind enough to restate your initial beef/problem/whatever in human language? I'd be interested in hearing about this breeding prospect of yours (that's what the thread is about, right?).

So it goes.
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2009-01-07, 19:23

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Not the g5. I'm talking about the transition between PPC and Intel. Apple was originally going with a different processor choice.(Can't for the life of me find a link or remember the name)
I think I *might* have heard Sparc mentioned, but Apple certainly never released anything for it.
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2009-01-07, 19:23

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MacRumors has a "trusted source" who believes it involves a firewire cable and a magsafe adapter, but no one can be sure.
I thought that was uncovered as a hoax when the latest MacBooks were announced without Firewire.

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Edit: BTW, what have you been able to do with any laptop except add RAM or a new HDD. I dont see Apple laptops as being any more limited as far as upgrades are concerned compared to any others.
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2009-01-07, 19:25

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Correction: Not for any use on anything other than a Mac.

Direct quote from the EULA for Mac OS X 10.5, section 2.A:

Emphasis mine.

Of course, it's still highly unlikely that Apple would do anything if you tinkered on your own personal machine and never distributed information about your mods.
Well, regardless of what would run on it, let me restate my post: I would like to build a computer that is capable of running a non-descript operating system. This computer would be quite similar to a _____branded product and be more desirable functionality wise. The part about this post being on AppleNova is a coincedence. lol

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Define "non-descript operating system."
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2009-01-07, 19:31

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Awesome.

So, would you be kind enough to restate your initial beef/problem/whatever in human language? I'd be interested in hearing about this breeding prospect of yours (that's what the thread is about, right?).
Thank you for someone with a sense of adventure. Look, I don't know that its possible but I'd like to build a computer that has some expandability, not sure whether desk or lap. Desktop would clearly be easier, cramming components isn't any strong point of mine. And i'd like the ability to run OS X if possible. Hell, id take something that ran OS 9 if it was affordable to make a blazing fast and productive machine.

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2009-01-07, 19:33

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Define "non-descript operating system."
An operating system. Doesn't matter really, I'm a Mac fan so it would be nice if it was running Mac software. Legally impossible. I could go to the dark side and run Windows...bleh. But what fun would that be? Linux is an option too.

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