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kscherer
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2021-06-05, 12:05

Star Wars is crap, says judge.


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2021-06-05, 13:20

So is your link, says Paul.



Seriously, it doesn't seem to go anywhere ("Safari Can't Find the Server"). Is it an Onion article or something?
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turtle
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2021-06-05, 13:28

His link is missing the ":" between https and //.
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2021-06-05, 13:40

https://www.ktvb.com/mobile/article/...6-771ceebf7ae7
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2021-06-05, 14:11

That’s funny. For him to go out of his way like that, you can tell he was a longtime fan and these recent ones really hit him wrong.

I think he’s been sitting on that one, waiting for the chance to use it.

“I need a case/ruling where I can shoehorn in a Star Wars jab…maybe today is the day!”

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kscherer
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2021-06-05, 17:16

Thanks to Drew for fixing that. I’m traveling and on my phone, so I’m blaming that.
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2021-06-11, 09:19

I don't know if I can think of anything sillier, or more unasked-for. But hey, I guess I could say that about dozens, if not hundreds, of movies over the years.

If it's going to be anything like the last one, why even bother? But, hey...no Shia Labeouf, so it automatically has that going for it.

I found this part interesting:

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Swastikas on set have been covered to avoid offence.

A source said: "They're desperate not to cause offence, so filming will mainly take place at night, under the cover of darkness.
Two other Indy movies - and quite a few others since the 1940's - have directly centered around that bunch, and their imagery/trappings. Were those steps taken then, I wonder? Or is this a result of more modern-era tiptoeing/sensitivity and the almighty rush to not offend anyone, at any time, about anything (good luck with that). It's a movie set. I bet most folks can tell the difference, and make allowances for such things?

But, in 2021, maybe not. Best to just play it safe all around, I suppose.

Timeline-wise, I'm not even sure how Nazis/swastikas would factor in to an Indy movie set, I presume, even later than the 1950's atomic/Soviet-era of Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Perhaps a flashback, or some sort of storage or archive setting? Or some sort of secret, they-never-really-went-away (a la the Galactic Empire > The First Order) type of plot?

I do see that Steven Spielberg, while an executive producer, actually isn't directing this one. James Mangold (Cop Land, Walk the Line, 3:10 to Yuma, Logan, Ford v Ferrari, etc.) is heading this one up. Somehow that just seems...wrong. John Williams is listed in the IMDb credits, but that may be for his past involvement (that main theme), but he's the only musical composer listed, so...

And George Lucas, other than "character" writing credit (from the original story), doesn't appear anywhere either. So an Indiana Jones movie with no direct Lucas involvement and Spielberg not behind the camera? Again, who's really asking for this? You'll forgive me if my Don't Really Give a Shit™ meter is kinda pegging the red this morning.

Dork that I am, of course I'll see it. But I also know, due to 2015-2019 and a certain other franchise, not to get my hopes up much at all. Ford is 78. As much as I didn't really buy him as Han Solo in 2015 (or Indy in 2008), it's really a lot to ask at this point. I know the jokes are all trite and played-out, but...they also make sense, and exist for a reason. It's just this side of silly, frankly.

I do see where Mads Mikkelsen and that Fleabag lady, Phoebe Waller (please don't tell me Indy's gonna put it to her...that, too, is a bit much to ask for/expect), are in the cast. No growed-up Short Round?!

Speaking of Mads Mikkelsen, he's becoming a genre go-to guy, isn't he? He's doing the Lecter thing on TV (or is that over?), he was involved in a Star Wars movie, he played a Bond villain in Casino Royale (with Daniel Craig). Craig was also in Cowboys & Aliens with, you guessed it, Harrison Ford. He was also in 2010's Clash of the Titans, Marvel's Dr. Strange and in the upcoming Fantastic Beats and Where to Find Them installment, which, I understand, is a Harry Potter-related/spin-off type of thing? Mads Mikkelsen is the uniting glue that's holding the movie universe together...Star Wars, Marvel, Bond/007, Hannibal Lecter, Harry Potter...good grief!
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2021-06-11, 10:55

Raiders of the Woke Ark?

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Woken Warriors?

Indiana Jones and the Not Nazis?



Can't they just make a movie and tell a story any more? How many check boxes have to get checked? I'm with you, I'm a total sucker and will probably watch it for nostalgia's sake, but if the reviews come back with "All the sensitive trigger boxes got checked" then I'll go ahead and skip it. I saw about one movie per year in the big-box theaters pre-COVID, so I save that $20/person for something special—usually Star Wars or some other gotta-see-it-no-matter-what flick. Indiana Jones would be that, but not if they're gonna go all sensitive on it.

"Nazi's are the enemy" is a real thing, but if we can't even show the enemy, then I suspect that cowardice is a bigger enemy than Nazis.

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2021-06-11, 13:02

I don't think that'll make it to the story, it's just on the set the article mentions. Which I still find odd. They'll cover up offending symbols/imagery during breaks/off-hours, even though they're going to wind up on film for all to see in the end. Seems a bit overdone and preemptively "aren't we sensitive?" cookie-mongering.

It isn't as though the studio or anyone involved in the production is promoting or glorifying anything. They're movie props/sets, seen countless times before.

They're probably just covering their butt.
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2021-06-11, 13:38

So, they're covering stuff up so someone on set doesn't get offended?

Is that better or worse?
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2021-06-11, 13:54

Someone on set, or in the little town they're shooting in. I don't know.

I'm not defending it, I'm just pointing out the likely "why".

I'm more interested/curious how it fits into a plot set well into the 1950's (or possibly even the 60's). Kingdom of the Crystal Skull, released 13 years ago, was apparently set in 1957. I have to assume this new one would be in the 60's (space race? Vietnam?). I just think that character worked in a 30's/40's setting, the original inspiration for the character/tone. Having him lurch forward, decades afterwards, just doesn't work for me. That ...Crystal Skull movie is completely forgettable. I remember little snippets (the opening Area 51 sequence, a small town motorcycle chase and Marion's return) and that's about it. On the other hand, I know every line, every camera angle/movement, every bit of background activity, etc. of Raiders of the Lost Ark. It, like Jaws, is a near-perfect movie...tight, lean, no wasted space or unnecessary jabber. That early exposition scene is still one of the greatest movie setups every written/filmed. In less than 4-5 minutes, we learn all we need to know - the background, the stakes, Hitler's reason for wanting it, etc.
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2021-06-11, 14:44

Well, I guess the Nazi angle would work if they head on down to Argentina and chase after some ancient South American temple with alien Nazis. The alien ghost of Adolph Hitler is living in this temple, you see, and he's controlling his minions with alien Jedi mind control and there's probably some cannibalistic monkeys in there shaped like giant ants.

And maybe a boat.

And the girl is totally into geriatric archeology types with whips.

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