Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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Does anybody know if Stable Diffusion can be run on a Mac?
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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Possibly it technically maybe could, but certainly not very well at all.
Virtually all of the popular machine learning libraries require a modern NVIDIA GPU to do the heavy computational lifting, and since Apple and NVIDIA's relationship soured long ago, there have been no working macOS drivers for NVIDIA cards since macOS High Sierra 10.13.6 (~4 years ago). Some ML libraries have operations that can run on the CPU, but even among those available, even the fastest CPUs usually pale in comparison to even low-tier modern GPUs. I also read that article earlier, and I'm thinking about installing all the dependencies into the Linux drive of my current Hackintosh to give it a try. I have an NVIDIA 3060 Ti in there which falls into that "low-tier modern" category that I warm up from time to time for 3D renderings. It won't be fast, but it'll probably get the job done. The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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Thanks Brad, I was suspicious about the hardware requirements to make this work. Doesn't it look like a LOT of fun??!!
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Tangentially related: Has anyone played around with DALL-E 2 or any of the other OpenAI tools?
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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I have a friend who is a MAESTRO at making pop culture monstrosities on CRAIYON - things that make you go "wow that is so wrong, and so funny". I try to do the same and fail. He's got the knack.
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
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Oh yeah. I have a whole folder with a million stupid things I've made from DALL-E mini and CRAIYON.
Some of the ones that came out mostly okay as expected… barack obama in star trek uniform barack obama in starfleet uniform BTS as star wars jedi captain picard as a bored ape nft captain picard as a medieval woodcut captain picard in the style of a picasso painting darth vader as a medieval angel painting darth vader clown darth vader fighting pikachu darth vader in a medieval woodcut darth vader in star trek uniform Spock as a bored ape NFT spock eating a hot dog super mario as a bored ape NFT the rock in star trek The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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I've also spent time playing with text synthesis tools to generate stories, usually based on some work-related subject, that I've shared with colleagues. You give these tools a couple sentences, and they try to generate more text based on that. Some of them are eerily good.
One of my recent attempts was almost too perfect. The bold part was the only input I gave it. The rest it generated on its own. Quote:
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Selfish Heathen
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womp, womp
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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Success!
Apparently it thinks "applenova: the house that jack built" deserves to be album art for some kind of European death metal band. It's about the same speed as the free online services, but at least I can safely feed it anything I feel like from the privacy of my local computer. such as... The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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OMG - let the requests begin O.o ... |
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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How fast is it?
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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Why not! I'm shoving these into imgur galleries.
I'm generating these in batches of 10 at a resolution of 512x512. Each batch takes almost 2 minutes to complete. So, 11-12 seconds each? Not great, not terrible. drew is a cardboard pirate who makes amazing props (1m53.159s) Goldblum boy band (1m53.558s) iphone sandwich (1m54.105s) not as interesting results on this one... can't win 'em all! kitten backpack (1m53.723s) batman lingerie (1m53.743s) LOL maybe NSFW The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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It can also take an existing image plus a text prompt together as input, and it will try to generate output making the prompt sort of fit the image as a template.
I drew the mascot for my project at work (it's a tardigrade sitting on a cloud... a "cloudigrade"), and I used that with a short prompt that just describes itself to generate some impressive, surreal, and sometimes cute variations. Those 20 were hand-picked from a much larger pool of images because most of the ones this tool spat our were just nightmare fuel. |
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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Wow, some of these are really cute.
Okay I found my friend Rick's cues from Craiyon. Here are a few: Alf shaped bong Courtroom sketch of Elmo testifying against Osama Bin Laden (amazing) Duran Duran eating durian (great) Ukiyo-e painting of Alfred E. Neuman (really good) Hand jobs of the future LoFi Golden Corral to relax to (lofi is a good general prefix) Ronald McDonald giving birth in a bathtub with a midwife Bill Cosby caught on trail cam (lol) ... |
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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Those are some clever prompts! Let's see how my version stacks up...
Alf shaped bong only one of these looks like my boy Gordon Shumway Courtroom sketch of Elmo testifying against Osama Bin Laden a few good ones here Duran Duran eating durian Ukiyo-e painting of Alfred E. Neuman not the same MAD lad I grew up with, but still interesting! Hand jobs of the future surprisingly safe for work LoFi Golden Corral to relax to I definitely could have had dinner as a kid in one of these in an alternate universe Ronald McDonald giving birth in a bathtub with a midwife I guess these are NSFW Bill Cosby caught on trail cam Not a ton of great results across the board, but I certainly see the potential for greatness. The model I downloaded and used is Hugging Face's Stable Diffusion v1.4 which is 4GB. That feels pretty tiny considering all it contains. This model is trained on the LAION-5B data set which contains 5.85 billion image-text pairs. That's a lot of input! It takes folks like Hugging Face a very long time and an absurd amount of computation to train a good model on this much data, but the longer they let it train, the better the results you tend to get out. Supposedly newer versions soon trained for even longer will be released in the not-too-distant future. I'll try to keep an eye out for that news and update my system when it arrives. The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
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Let me poach my friend's results and post them to Imgur so you can compare. Craiyon is doing some pretty remarkable stuff now. I think some of your trail cam pics were really good. The Ronald McDonald pics were nightmares come to life. His Elmos were better, all of his, actually, but theirs is public and is getting a ton of training, but I'm not sure if there's curation? Is there a way to tell the black box that it's on the right track?
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¡Damned!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Purgatory
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Well I didn't expect to be crying with laughter so early this morning. Absolutely hilarious.
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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OMG
I just read about the seeds that people are using and they're far more verbose than I realized they can be. Can you try this one? slender woman brunette white gown robot android sketch watercolour clouds platform intricate illustration Moebius gireaud futuristic starfield ... |
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Space Pirate
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Location: Atlanta
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Is It Safe??
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¡Damned!
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¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Space Pirate
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Holy SHIT. Thank you! This is pretty incredible. I wonder if that seed would deliver the same results from machine to machine. I don't think it would. Really tempted to try and install this. Wow.
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would depend on how the algorithms implement random seeding from machine to machine (etc) for deterministic output. But would think they are predictable from computer to computer? It’s not all that different from production (business) applications and also is important for reproducibility.
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(Assuming all flavors of this software allow you to provide the random seed value; the version I was playing with over the weekend definitely did.) The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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From the images I've seen you guys posting, I'm thinking we'll soon be able to fire most of the world's artists and send them packing! I mean, who needs them, right?
Is there anything computers won't be able to do? - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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How do you know that I'm not actually a computer already?
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
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There's been a running gag on Reddit for as many years as I can remember that you are the only human posting. Everyone else and I are bots. Sometimes it feels true. Sometimes it actually is true. There are tons of bots on Reddit (and Twitter and probably all other major social networks).
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Ultimately, though, the output is only as good as the input. Stable Diffusion is so good because the models have been trained on billions of labeled images that someone else already made. Photographs. Paintings. Drawings. Scans. Screenshots. Computer graphics. You name it. Remove the artist from the equation, and the whole thing stagnates and stops. These systems are very interesting and really good at synthesizing new-ish things based on old things, but they cannot generate anything truly original in a meaningful way. New vocabulary, new images, and new concepts are still the domain of the human mind. Although a tool like this could spit out something completely random abstract, it's going to be based on preexisting art. It still needs us to interpret, judge and accept or reject as good or bad, and apply meaning to it, and that work would have to be fed back into the models on a massive scale, rinse, and repeat. So, in the general sense, artists and hobbyists and genuinely creative types aren't going to be out of job for a long time, but there are certainly lots of niches where you do just want something vaguely derivative of something else, and this synthetic art is plenty good enough. The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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Selfish Heathen
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By the way, you know how captchas have been asking you to identify cars and crosswalks and traffic signals and trees over the past many years? Every time you answer one, you are providing labels to those images so that Google (and friends) can feed them into their own machine-learning models. They are building a massive library of billions of driving-related images to help power the software of self-driving cars. Google isn't relying solely on that torrent of data to drive a car, but they are using it to double-check their own custom AI software's behaviors.
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