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Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Hopefully, your vote will be after some decision making process though. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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So, back to the original statement, slightly edited: in the set of candidates seriously contending in The Big Two, there does not exist a minimal government candidate. Therefore, if tensdanny38 is trying to say "Vote Republican!" he's seriously mistaken in using that as a basis. They're no better. |
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(He's also conservative on some matters, but that's hardly his main platform.) |
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Stallion
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Milwaukee
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Ron Paul is the only responsible choice. It's great that the democrats want to be self-righteous and put economics on the back end of issues, but it really doesn't matter how many equal rights there are for gays or how many abortions betty jane can have when their aren't any jobs.
Economics and the almighty dollar should be the #1 issue in people's minds. It is the driving force behind quality of life. The rest will fall into place. |
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Overall, Paul is probably the one closest to my own ideas of how government should work. I don't agree with many of his social conservative stances, but the great thing about minimal government principles is that, if he were elected, I could be fairly certain that he wouldn't be shoving them on the rest of us. Minimal government means, among other things, that a candidate can have numerous personal beliefs that I don't agree with, but I can still support their *governing* skills. You know, the thing we elect them to do. See, while I find it really annoying that tensdanny38 are both interested in the same candidate, given that I agree with him on very damned little, and find his style to be acerbic and unwarranted, I can be fairly certain that the principles in question that draw us both mean that we don't *have* to agree on anything else, and we can just choose to let each other be. Preferably at a distance. |
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Thunderbolt, fuck yeah!
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Denmark
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What are you doing in Copenhagen btw? |
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Among white primary voters with no college degrees, Clinton won 59 percent of the vote in Virginia and 58 percent of the vote in Maryland. Obama won 57 percent and 50 percent of Virginia's and Maryland's college-educated whites. Quote:
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Just because there's no choice that results in electing a candidate that represents 100% of the philosophies someone has doesn't mean there's no "right" choice.
There would have to be about 230 million candidates in November for someone to be able to vote for the "right" choice if you define it so narrowly. real hackers don't use sigs |
Stallion
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Milwaukee
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I don't need to cite myself. Open a book if you don't believe me. Read about American history. You don't need to cite something that is obvious and commonly known. Quote:
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...and calling/e-mailing/texting ex-girlfriends on the off-chance they'll invite you over for some "old time's sake" no-strings couch gymnastics... |
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ohio
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Historically speaking, a BIG part of the reason that the U.S. business world did so well in the 19th century is because the U.S. government did not believe in free trade and had so many high protective tariffs that industry here was free to develop and grow without foreign competition - not necessarily good for the people having to buy those products.
Additionally, many industries got a lot of help from the government. The railroads got tons of money/land from the government through things like the Homestead Act. Incidentally, a lot of those programs, like the transcontinental railroad, were passed during the Civil War, since many of the southern states had blocked their passage. Finally, while a few individuals did extremely well (the Carnegies, the Rockefellers, etc), the majority of the country were not so fortunate. Hence the large amount of violence, agitation, and general social uneasiness (as demonstrated by things like the 8-Hour Day movement, the Pullman Strike, Homestead, Ludlow, etc.) So, free-wheeling business does not equal great society. The end of the 19th century witnessed some severe boom/bust cycles, with depressions happening in the 1870s, 80s, and the most extreme from 1893-97. It wasn't until we as a nation adopted more Keynesian economic models that we were able to reduce the severity of these cycles. Anyway, I just get annoyed when people make it out to sound like laissez-faire is the ultimate utopia. And yes, I read the Economist on a weekly basis, took economic courses, and follow other business news-sites, such as Bloomberg. I'm still voting for Obama. |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Promise Land of Trustafarians
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Probably not something we want to try again. (See Nullification Crisis and South Carolina Exposition) |
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