Banging the Bottom End
Join Date: Jun 2004
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The amount of user data stolen in this breach is crazy. Every account, and every bit of information associated with that account, including the security questions/answers (which are very similar across many banking sites).
Was Sony just arrogant, stupid, or both??? |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Near Indianapolis
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PSN users begin reporting fraudulent charges. Go change your card numbers if you haven't already. I'll be changing mine ASAP.
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Formerly Roboman, still
awesome Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Portland, OR
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Banging the Bottom End
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Sounds like I'll find out soon enough though. On the plus side, my PSN account has my old address. Hopefully that'll save me from bad stuff happening. |
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@kk@pennytucker.social
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I've never bought anything through the PSN, so I should be good.
I'll have to check and make sure that my CC isn't in there when I get home. No more Twitter. It's Mastodon now. |
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@kk@pennytucker.social
Join Date: Jan 2005
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That's what I'm concerned about.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Near Indianapolis
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No, you can't. And that's a big part of the problem. To figure out which card you used, you have two options:
1) Wait until someone steals from you. 2) Go through every card statement during a period in which you may have bought something and figure out which one you used. If you gave them a card number but haven't used it yet, there's no way to know which card they have on file. So you're stuck with option #1. I know which card I use on PSN, so I just need to change that one. |
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: At home
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But if true for credit card... Sucks. |
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Banging the Bottom End
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: At home
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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It's annoying, and inconsiderate, that Sony took their sweet time in releasing a public statement on this clusterfuck. Luckily, the debit card I used for PSN purchases has been expired for almost a year now.
Seen a man standin' over a dead dog lyin' by the highway in a ditch He's lookin' down kinda puzzled pokin' that dog with a stick |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: El Dorado County, California
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I haven't so much as turned on my PS3 since...probably before the school year started back in August, or shortly after. Even so, I'm keeping an eye on accounts (what little I've got in them, anyway). |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Near Indianapolis
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Also: If you use the same password for PSN as you do other services, go change those passwords now. Based on the way I'm reading this, these fuck-ups are storing passwords in plain text, which means the attackers have your password now too. |
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Lovable Bastard
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Boston-ish
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I simply cannot believe that Sony, one of the worlds largest electronics manufacturers, is storing passwords in plain text. I wonder how many other large tech companies that I'm supposed to trust are doing the same?
I trust Amazon, Apple, Google and MS to hash my passwords (and based on their password recovery processes, I am led to believe they do) but now I'm not so sure about basically everyone else. If you'd asked me last week I would have guess that Sony was big and smart enough to get this, but I would have been wrong Logic, logic, logic. Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Near Indianapolis
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Actually, I misread it earlier. It's worse than passwords.
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This makes me fucking sick. Anybody want to buy my PS3? |
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Banging the Bottom End
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Yea, hopefully you didn't use the "What is your mother's maiden name?" one.
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Lovable Bastard
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Boston-ish
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Good lord, did interns design their password security? Or are they just that incompetent?
Looks like I'm never buying a Playstation again |
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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It's definitely not the same. About 2 months ago, the new card that I received last summer was compromised (someone bought $80 worth of Xbox Live shit). ING sent out a new card, and it has a completely different number.
Seen a man standin' over a dead dog lyin' by the highway in a ditch He's lookin' down kinda puzzled pokin' that dog with a stick |
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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I actually had to change my PSN account password and email changed. I set up my PSN account to use my Gmail account and didn't realize until this compromise that I had in fact used the same password on my Gmail account as I had my PSN account where my username was my Gmail account email address!
I can just imagine the other number of users who have done that. Since really focusing on network security as a career I has been going through my old accounts and fixing the error of my ways. Shame I missed that one though! I've fixed most of the other. I hope those reading this think to change theirs if they are in the same boat as I was. Oh, and this is also why iTunes, PSN and Wii (whatever they call it) only get gift cards but no credit card registered with them. They can't compromise my card if they don't have it. I "trust" Amazon because it's their business, these other companies it's just additional revenue. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Atlanta
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It's a good thing for me that I've only used PSN gift cards to buy stuff through my PS3.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Near Indianapolis
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Dark Cat of the Sith
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I make all my iTunes and (most of) Amazon purchases through gift cards, because I absolutely can't stand having my card info saved anywhere online. This is reinforcing my feeling on that.
"A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patient could feel my anger!" - Darth Baras twitter ; amateur photographer ; fanfiction writer ; roleplayer and worldbuilder |
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*AD SPACE FOR SALE*
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Cleveland-ish, OH
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I checked my online American Express activity and luckily no usage so far. I use it mainly for things like iTunes, Hulu, Netflix, ect, because AMX and Discovery both have great customer service with stuff like this.
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Well, I don't think this needs to be a time to withhold your card from everyone because this company got hacked. I'm sure cardholder data wasn't a priority to them. A company like Amazon, PayPal, or NewEgg would be sure their card security is a step above since it is their livelihood. Yeah, PSN, iTunes etc. all get gift cards from me.
Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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"A blind, deaf, comatose, lobotomy patient could feel my anger!" - Darth Baras twitter ; amateur photographer ; fanfiction writer ; roleplayer and worldbuilder |
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Well i just phoned Credit Card company and they highly recommended that the card was cancelled (and replaced with a card with different numbers). They seem to believe that the credit card details were more than likely to have been stolen.
So that cheered me up. Now the next huge problem is how am i going to pick up my hire car when the card i have booked it with has no been deactivated! Thanks again Sony. I mean I am no network engineer or security person but I would have thought the PSN network and the system that hold the credit card info would be comely separate. The PSN system would then ask the credit card server to action the purchase without even having to hold the actual card info. Last edited by nikstar101 : 2011-04-27 at 15:46. Reason: Making it a tad more readable |
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I shot the sherrif.
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How about giving your Dev. network access to 70 million credit card numbers.
Who in their right mind would even consider that? |
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