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I just upgraded my rev. c powerbook to 1.25 gigs of RAM. Wow! This thing flies with all that RAM in it. Even typing in Safari with the animated smilies doesn't slow down
I got a great deal on the RAM that Outpost was selling ($149 for the gig). I'm quite happy with it. If you've got a powerbook and you haven't maxed out the ram, you don't know what you're missing. |
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Yep. RAM is your friend. I got four in my G5 now... no image shall slow me down... ev@R! Now for that Radeon 9800 Pro Special Edition.
Bwahahahahahahaaaa! PS - I'm now poor. ...into the light of a dark black night. |
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I was cheap and only put a 512MB stick in my Rev.C 12-inch PowerBook (for a total of 768). Should I really regret not spending the extra money on a 1GB stick? Escher I've been waiting for a true sub-PowerBook for more than 10 years. The 11-inch MacBook Air finally delivers on all counts! It beats the hell out of both my PowerBook 2400c and my 12-inch PowerBook G4 -- no contest whatsoever. |
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Is it always that cheap or is that just some sort of special? |
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It's been running maybe the last 2-3 weeks on Outpost. I first saw a thread about it over in the Anandtech forums. I don't think it's currently a listed special on Outpost, but I don't know how much longer they could hold that price. The next cheapest I think is ~$200 for 1 GB sodimm.
I've been thinking about getting one myself, haven't pulled the trigger yet though. |
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Totally worth it. I ran a thorough test of the hardware last night just to be sure and it passed. There's a whole thread of people having good luck with it over at macnn. |
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Well I just ordered it selected overnight shipping, putting it to $149.63. For some reason it says it was $139.99 for it when I went to checkout. What programs do you guys use to test your RAM? I'll hopefully get it tomorrow since I got the order in today at 9, and I'd love to be able to test it, know it's good, and feel I get an amazing deal.
I can't wait, I am pissed I lose 256MB because I was cheap when I got my computer, but I can't complain about 1.25GB of RAM |
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Timely thread, as I'm on the cusp of doing this. I've still got the 512 (2 x 256) that came in my 15" PowerBook. I was thinking of just getting a 512 and bumping to 768, but I don't know.
Here's the deal: I ALWAYS have Mail, Safari and iTunes running. Always. To that, add the occasional Sherlock, Address Book and iChat. Illustrator, Photoshop, InDesign and/or FontAgent Pro when I'm doing "real" work. I'd benefit from more than 512MB wouldn't I? What, exactly, would be the obvious, tangible difference I'd experience? Quicker launching and quitting? Faster switching between apps? Overall responsiveness/snappiness? |
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pscates: You would benefit immensely from a 1GB stick. With a 512MB stick, you'll go from 512 to 768 (50% increase). With an extra US$50 for the 1GB stick, you'll be able to go from 512 to 1.25GB. That's whoppin' 150% increase for only 50 bucks more. If you haven't already bought a 512MB stick like me, the 1GB stick should be a no-brainer. Escher I've been waiting for a true sub-PowerBook for more than 10 years. The 11-inch MacBook Air finally delivers on all counts! It beats the hell out of both my PowerBook 2400c and my 12-inch PowerBook G4 -- no contest whatsoever. |
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Escher I've been waiting for a true sub-PowerBook for more than 10 years. The 11-inch MacBook Air finally delivers on all counts! It beats the hell out of both my PowerBook 2400c and my 12-inch PowerBook G4 -- no contest whatsoever. |
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Edit: I've only had my computer running for a day or two, and I'm at 233,000 pageouts. What are you at? |
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iBook with 256MB, 17 days uptime: 1,012,871 pageouts; Powermac with 1280MB, 9 days uptime: 514,105 pageouts. |
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I know I'm gonna get blistered for this, but what's a "pageout"?
I'm guessing it's when the hard drive is accessed for memory, judging by the above context? Something like that? |
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Im still with 256 as well (12inch PB) and its killing me as well. Im trying to get my work to spot me the GB, but things go slowly.
Bittorrent downloads (more the 3-4 concurrent) will FREEZE my system. Cold. Only a forced restart will do it. I've tried with Tomato and Azureus, but they both eventually kill me if I have too much stuff downloading. I didnt think OS X would succumb to such things. Paging is hell as well.... god I want more ram I'm having deja-vu and amnesia at the same time. I think I've forgotten this before. |
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My order has officially been placed! I should get it Friday just in time to play around with it over the weekend. Whee! The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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crap... not available for export
anyone want to help a poor ol Zo out? ;-) |
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I think pageout is when it's writing to the disk, and pagein, is when it's staying in the RAM? I am not really sure what's what...I guess Brad would be able to clarify. Is lack of RAM the real reason BitTorrent freezes? I figured it was just shoddy programming. Is there any chance that more RAM will increase the speed which DVD2One compresses movies? I was kinda hoping that my slow HD was the reason it didn't go faster. I guess I'm probably just delusional that my 1.25 G4 can output video faster then my HD can write. Last edited by ast3r3x : 2004-09-01 at 10:57. |
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That link should be good enough for a paging description. IIRC, a pagein refers to grabbing a page from HD to memory, a pageout describes putting a page from memory to HD.
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My rudimentary understanding of pageouts and pageins are when the system needs to move things into and out of memory.
When you've got an application that's been allocated some physical ram and it isn't using it right now and there's something else that needs it, that RAM gets paged out - the info in memory gets shifted the the swap space. A page in is the opposite - if you have an application that's been paged out and you bring it to the forefront - the info in the swap space moves back into physical memory. This takes time to do and the less the better from a speed perspective. |
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I think it is the the step from 256 to 512 MB that makes the biggest difference. At least that's my recollection from the early days of upgrading to OS X. If you know how much RAM all your open applications take, you can add it to the 512 MB. That much RAM should be sufficient, but it never hurts to have more, for when you get that really big application. |
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I got lucky with my Powerbook. I ordered a refurb to get the Superdrive, and Apple slipped in an extra 512 without knowing it. It was only supposed to come with 128, but I ended up with 640.
Anyways, can someone tell me how much a Rev.A can hold? Is it 640 or a gig? I can't remember. |
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