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Moogs
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2004-11-01, 10:12

According to Think Secret another alpha build of Tiger has been released, the first since WWDC apparently. Still in "A build" territory so that's why I say "alpha", though technically that's not what the A in Apple's build numbers represents. In effect though, given the build numbers of other final releases, that's what it amounts to.

Sounds like it's still very unpolished. Still would be interesting to know if there are any new features, etc.

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2004-11-01, 12:29

There are some new features. AI has them up already. Burnable folders and a few changes to finder so far.
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2004-11-01, 13:20

There are a bunch of screen grabs over in this thread in the MacNN forum (courtesy member "zachs") in addition to some commentary on the build.

Edit: Perhaps one of the mods could add "8A268" (or 8A269?) to this thread's title for future clarification?
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2004-11-01, 13:57

kick ass. screen grabs are png's now. i hated the whole pdf thing. what a pain in the rear.
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2004-11-01, 14:04

MacNN was down earlier and those images were hard to get to. So, in the event that it happens again, I've zipped up the pictures here.
Attached Files
File Type: zip Tiger shots 1.zip (758.9 KB, 160 views)
File Type: zip Tiger shots 2.zip (238.3 KB, 111 views)
File Type: zip Tiger shots 3.zip (380.5 KB, 109 views)
File Type: zip Tiger shots 4.zip (733.2 KB, 61 views)
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2004-11-01, 14:40

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kick ass. screen grabs are png's now. i hated the whole pdf thing. what a pain in the rear.
Agreed.

I'm also a fan of the motion style dashboard in DVD player now. I like my controls being mostly transparent so that change things, but see what's going on still.

Tis why I'm a fan of X-Tunes (at the very bottom) to control iTunes.
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2004-11-01, 19:44

Muchas Gracias Brad. D/L now...
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2004-11-01, 20:25

Damit... why do I even look, it only makes me want an OSX wothy mac even more.... sigh.

(but on a lighter note, I had to ditch my much loved Mac LC and LC 520 in my last move. It was hard to part with them, however, I have picked up an old LC 475 from my new work (that no one wanted) and all it needs is a hard drive. mmm... I can't wait, system 7.5 goodness ahead!)

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2004-11-01, 21:22

The integration with Spotlight for Smart Folders looks good (and the improved viewing setup) but the burnable folders seems a little silly to me. It's so easy to just burn stuff with Toast or Disk Utility anyway... and how often do you burn the same folder with multiple content lists over and over anyway?

For our clients / jobs it's usually twice and out at most.

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2004-11-01, 21:26

Just had a discussion about this over at The Forums Which Shalt Not Be Named... had it pointed out that Burnable Folders are an interesting solution to making the ease of burning in the Finder more obvious. Most people I know don't realize you *can* burn in the Finder just by dragging and dropping to the CD-R icon... this makes it more obvious. It also fits in with the abstracting the user away from the physical file hierarchy and pushing them more towards thinking about what files are used *for*, and *when*. Ie, readying the user for database file systems. We're getting there a step at a time.

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2004-11-01, 22:03

I think it's stupid, but if it means no duplicates on your HD, it's good.

As far as business wise, if there was a way to make a variable date in the title of that folder, it would be a wonderful tool for the photography studio I work at.

We burn the users originals in tif, jpg, and raw, twice. Then we turn their retouched images to cd later.

Needless to say I go through a lot of CD's, and while this isn't the ultimate feature, it would be handy.
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2004-11-02, 09:01

burnable folders = good for backup. Y'all already back up regularly, right?
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2004-11-02, 09:16

To external hard drives mostly.
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2004-11-02, 10:31

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kickaha
Just had a discussion about this over at The Forums Which Shalt Not Be Named... had it pointed out that Burnable Folders are an interesting solution to making the ease of burning in the Finder more obvious. Most people I know don't realize you *can* burn in the Finder just by dragging and dropping to the CD-R icon... this makes it more obvious. It also fits in with the abstracting the user away from the physical file hierarchy and pushing them more towards thinking about what files are used *for*, and *when*. Ie, readying the user for database file systems. We're getting there a step at a time.
I've been following the same discussion over there. On top of everything else, I wonder if this particular folder is utilized by Automator for some special purpose.
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2004-11-05, 14:07

Anyone else uncover anything new in this build?
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2004-11-05, 16:03

Yeah, speaking of backup - is there a tool to back up selected files and/or folders on your hard drive to any other selected media, volume or location? Something like Synk, but built into the OS? Or will we just be able to set it up in Automator (which would rock)?
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2004-11-05, 18:21

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Yeah, speaking of backup - is there a tool to back up selected files and/or folders on your hard drive to any other selected media, volume or location? Something like Synk, but built into the OS? Or will we just be able to set it up in Automator (which would rock)?
rsync baby!
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2004-11-05, 23:51

For some more screenshots of 8A294, check out the November 1st posts at macosxrumors.

Here's one compelling bit of information from the site:

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TextEdit has been improved a lot in Tiger, this new version (1.4), allows editing of document properties, adding or editing of tables, spacing, lists, links and other things. Other features like printing page numbers are also available. Considering TextEdit has had .doc file format support since version 1.3, Apple could easily rename this piece of software “iWord” .
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2004-11-06, 08:56

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For some more screenshots of 8A294, check out the November 1st posts at macosxrumors.
And I have conveniently added those pictures as Tiger shots 4.zip to my previous post in this thread.

How kind of me.
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2004-11-06, 16:33

Thanks a lot. Tiger looks like a huge upgrade, much more so than Panther was to Jaguar.
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2004-11-06, 16:46

Looks like they kinda fixed the security hole where passwords are stored in two different kinds of hashes - a less secure one for windows sharing and the more secure one for the Mac. In the posted screenshot, at least it warns you about it, and you can choose to do it for each user.
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2004-11-06, 17:30

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TextEdit has been improved a lot in Tiger, this new version (1.4), allows editing of document properties, adding or editing of tables, spacing, lists, links and other things. Other features like printing page numbers are also available. Considering TextEdit has had .doc file format support since version 1.3, Apple could easily rename this piece of software “iWord”
What's really nice about this is that any Cocoa app will get these things for free too. So Create is going to have these options when it's running in Tiger. That's what so great about Cocoa: your apps get "free" upgrades whenever you upgrade the system.
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2004-11-07, 12:57

The thing I'm not liking about Text Edit as they add more and more is that everything is accessed via detached dialog windows. Looks and feels very disconnected when apps do that IMO. Apple has to find a way to make some tighter visual integrations as they expand Text Edit's feature set, etc.

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2004-11-07, 13:25

8A294 sucks on my PB 15" 1.25GHz.

Anything relating to graphics is weird. Windows dragging (not resizing) is smooth, but delayed. I can drag a windows all around my screen quickly, and it'll go everywhere I drug it, but in it's own time.

Dock and expose are jerky. DVD player say no video device can be found

So as I said in the other thread...I'm going back to 10.3.x
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2004-11-12, 18:20

Some interesting explanations and graphics about Tiger from ADC:

http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/index.html

Also some Tiger Server info in case any missed it.

http://www.apple.com/server/macosx/tiger/

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2004-11-13, 05:37

Quartz Composer is a really cool application, provided you have a CoreImage-capable card. Which I don't.
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2004-12-08, 18:16

Latest build: 8A323 . Anyone care to comment? I'd fork over the $500 for a Select ADC account and start testing it myself if I weren't already under a heavy beta load from another developer. Sounds like this is mostly bug fixing territory though, no new gizmos.

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2004-12-10, 10:55

iSync still doesn't work with some mobiles, such as mine. :-(

feels more stable though and ichat still buggy...
nuff said
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2004-12-12, 20:42

http://www.apple.com.cn/developer/Do...chOverview.pdf

Tiger Tech Overview which, according to OSNews, discloses more features than previously available documents.

I don't know if it's been discussed before now, but Tiger now has a hidden setting to change the pixel:virtual pixel ratio. So really tiny or really huge interfaces ahoy!

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2004-12-12, 23:17

Thanks for the link; I'll check that out. [just realized the server is in China... stopping download now for fear that Big Red Brother is watching me. ]

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