[Quagmire]

This is looking good for us if IBM can make and produce dual 3.0 Ghz dual core 970mp and have it in G5's by January. Intel announced that the 4 Ghz P4 won't be out intill the first quarter of 2005. Intel is having problems lately. Prescott barely launched. Intel had to recall its greatest chip because of production flaws.

http://arstechnica.com/news/posts/20040729-4053.html

[Luca]

Quick on the go as usual, Quag. A friend of mine told me about this in the wee hours of the morning, and this is the first post here relating to it (I think).

Yeah, Intel is finally stalling and leaving their main advantage (raw clock speed) open for other chip manufacturers to catch up to. Of course, they have plenty of other products they're working on, like the Pentium M. In fact, with the Pentium M being as efficient as it is (1.7 GHz PM = 2.8 GHz P4), Intel could concivably use the Pentium M as a desktop chip. But to do so, they'd have to do a 180 on their marketing strategy and risk dropping the P4 line altogether, instead touting the advantages of a highly efficient chip that gets the job done without the need for unreasonable cooling or insane clock speed. That would be a tough thing for consumers to swallow, and I wonder how many would accept it.

[Barto]

Intel IS going to replace the Pentium 4 with a desktop Pentium M (Pentium D maybe?), it was in the news a month or two ago.

EDIT: FOUR months ago even.

[Wrao]

A friend of mine is running a 3.4 ghz P4 that is overclocked to 4.2 ghz.

11 fans AND liquid cooling

[onlyafterdark]

[Wrao]

It's a burly PC, he got a $500 RAID controller card, and took two 30 GB hard drives RAIDed them together and runs windows off them. Then he has another 2 200GB drives for files, and an external 250 for more files.

He's taken to ripping all his albums into uncompressed .wav format, just because he can.

Everything is top of the line, it cost him nearly 4 grand...well it would have if he hadn't gotten so many great deals

[stoo]

But can he hear the birds sing sweetly with his PC turned on? I think not.

[Wrao]

it's really surprisingly quiet, and even if it wasn't, he's always playing music anyway(all 3 rooms of his house are wired with speakers, some big some small, some loud some quiet, but they are all in sync)

[hmurchison]

Apple doesn't need a dual 3Ghz computer to beat a P4 4Ghz. http://www.barefeats.com/g5c.html it takes a dual Xeon 3Ghz running a
benchark biased towards PCs to beat a dual 2.5. Apple can easily dispatch
a P4 4Ghz with a dual 2.8 if they can hit that on the next refresh.