[Kamanchi Slide]

Hi there

I've just brought a new Macbook with Leopard. I've set up two users me and my other half. I've configured my mail to access my hotmail and it works great. But when i set up my girlfriends mail to receive her hotmail it says

Connection Failure

Could not connect to 'Hotmail Account'
Access to Hotmail via Outlook and Outlook Express now requires a subscription. Please sign up at http://join.msn.com/general/Email

I don't know why i can't access it, she can sign on via Safari just not through Mail.

Thanks

Kamanchi

[turtle]

Mail uses either POP or IMAP to access email servers. Safari is using their web interface to access the mail. If you want to access your Hotmail accounts from Mail you'll need to pay for their upgraded service to allow POP access, last I checked anyway.

[kieran]

I'd post a link but I'm on my iPhone but what about httpmail? I thought that was designed to work with mail.app

[iDorf]

Google how "hotmail" loses messages and you'll drop it all together. It is MS - just junk anyway.

[Kamanchi Slide]

Originally Posted by kieran23kk I'd post a link but I'm on my iPhone but what about httpmail? I thought that was designed to work with mail.app

I'm using httpmail with my user name and it works fine. And i've set up my Girlfriends account in exactly the same way but it just wont connect.

Originally Posted by iDorf Google how "hotmail" loses messages and you'll drop it all together. It is MS - just junk anyway.

380 million users MS junk.!!!

[jondaapplegeek]

I believe only 'older' Hotmail addresses will allow you to download messages. They stopped this feature for 'new' email addresses a few years ago. Maybe your girlfriends address is newer then yours.

[Brad]

jon is right. You can only access older free Hotmail accounts this way.

From the very first item in the FAQ for the httpmail plugin:

1. The plugin doesn't work and when I click on the ! icon I see something telling me I need to upgrade to Hotmail Plus, what's going on? Microsoft has recently decided to start charging for WebDav access to Hotmail. This will affect all newly created accounts, however some people with older Hotmail accounts will still be able to connect using the plugin as it is taking Microsoft quite some time to convert all the accounts over to their new system. If you are seeing this error then the only way to make the plugin with with your account is to "upgrade" to Hotmail Plus.

[Bryson]

I thought that newer ones required you to "upgrade" to Hotmail + in order to access it remotely. As the error message says...

[autodata]

Originally Posted by iDorf Google how "hotmail" loses messages and you'll drop it all together. It is MS - just junk anyway.

Indeed. Hotmail's spam filters will often simply not deliver messages, even those with proper sender id records. It's definitely not a service to be using unless you are ok with having some mail disappear into the aether.

[Kamanchi Slide]

I cant even find anything to do with a 'pay' hotmail account i presume thats the Windows Live Plus account, but i've searched for this and can't find it anywhere, the only Plus account i can find is for messenger. I've just checked and we both have the Windows Live hotmail accounts with 5gb storage. I don't mind paying a bit for the Hotmail service if it would work with Mail. Looks like they've upgraded everyones. It still doesn't explain why mines working and the girlfriends is not.

[jondaapplegeek]

Instead of Hotmail, I would strongly suggest going with GMail. Although parts of me don't like the GUI of the webmail (mainly just how it looks), it's a service that works well, a SPAM filter that has a good track record and a few 'extras' that are quite nice. And it works with Mail.

[Kamanchi Slide]

It looks like my only way around it is to get a new email account. Thanks for all your help.

Paul