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Yontsey
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2020-12-31, 07:41

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He was warned, and that's all I'm going to say about it.



I'm down 20 pounds so far, with 10 to go. I've been lifting and am starting to look decent in the mirror for the first time in 20+ years. I even started a thread that no one cares about.

One thing I can say with certainty: I really miss donuts.
Go get some donuts man!!! Weight loss is not sustainable if you don't allow yourself some treats every once in awhile. Over the last 4 years, I'm down about 60lbs. It takes awhile if you want it to happen right, and be permanent. Haven't a couple donuts one Saturday morning isn't going to change anything in the grand scheme of things. It's a reward for doing so well. I eat ice cream every couple weeks. I have no issue getting Chipotle, pizza, fried chicken, sushi, ect. I just watch what I eat all week, workout every day, never drink soda or sugar drinks or anything, and just stay consistent.

MAJOR CONGRATS on the 20lb though!!! That's amazing. Such a great feeling and it is so crazy how much your body feels when you lose weight. The little aches and pains and stuff like that reduce or even go away.

Die young and save yourself....
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drewprops
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2020-12-31, 09:29

I need to begin my climb out of the sloth well, as well. We'll see.

Also, as big a dick as Nut is, I'll feel weird if that was a permanent ban.


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kscherer
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2020-12-31, 11:06

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Go get some donuts man!!! Weight loss is not sustainable if you don't allow yourself some treats every once in awhile. Over the last 4 years, I'm down about 60lbs. It takes awhile if you want it to happen right, and be permanent. Haven't a couple donuts one Saturday morning isn't going to change anything in the grand scheme of things. It's a reward for doing so well. I eat ice cream every couple weeks. I have no issue getting Chipotle, pizza, fried chicken, sushi, ect. I just watch what I eat all week, workout every day, never drink soda or sugar drinks or anything, and just stay consistent.

MAJOR CONGRATS on the 20lb though!!! That's amazing. Such a great feeling and it is so crazy how much your body feels when you lose weight. The little aches and pains and stuff like that reduce or even go away.
Oh, don't you worry. I allow myself weekly treats. I'm fully aware of the trap that exists if you try to cut out everything. Suddenly, you get a craving and eat like a pig for a few weeks and it's amazing how fast those calories jump right back on.

I mentioned donuts because those are my biggest AM vice. I cut them out almost completely. A few weeks ago we stayed with in-laws for a weekend and they had donuts. I should have had one, but I had 4! And that's why I don't want them around—at all.

I allow myself other treats, but donuts are like cocaine to me. I just have to cut them out completely, or they're coming back with a vengeance.

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psmith2.0
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2020-12-31, 11:27

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I allow myself other treats, but donuts are like cocaine to me. I just have to cut them out completely, or they're coming back with a vengeance.
I remember that episode of Miami Vice. At the time I thought it was a weird departure from the others, but it was cool when Crockett blew up that speedboat full of chocolate glazed Krispy Kremes those smugglers were trying to unload!

"How about a dozen...years in jail, pal!"



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kscherer
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2021-01-15, 14:32

Well, now, this is interesting.

Seems that wearables might be able to detect COVID before you even know you have COVID.
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turtle
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2021-01-15, 15:41

Yeah, I read about the newer sensors also being able to accurately guess based on O2 saturation. Seems your O2 sats drop on infection normally too in many cases.
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bassplayinMacFiend
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2021-01-28, 11:42

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Oh, don't you worry. I allow myself weekly treats. I'm fully aware of the trap that exists if you try to cut out everything. Suddenly, you get a craving and eat like a pig for a few weeks and it's amazing how fast those calories jump right back on.

I mentioned donuts because those are my biggest AM vice. I cut them out almost completely. A few weeks ago we stayed with in-laws for a weekend and they had donuts. I should have had one, but I had 4! And that's why I don't want them around—at all.

I allow myself other treats, but donuts are like cocaine to me. I just have to cut them out completely, or they're coming back with a vengeance.
I cut sugar out of my coffee, and I’ve lost 15 pounds over the last 2 months. Didn’t change anything other than going to cream only. Surprised at many things. First, after a day, I didn’t miss the sugar. Also, my teeth don’t feel crusted over by lunchtime anymore. I’m teetering at the 200# mark now. Some days I’m 198#, on others I’m as much as 203#.
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psmith2.0
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2021-01-28, 12:38

When I lay off the Dr. Pepper (sugar city, huh?) my jeans and shorts feel less snug around my waist in the matter of a few weeks, and with doing nothing else. It's amazing just how laying off sodas makes a differences. But I'm also a believer in enjoyment/pleasure, and I'm not drinking any of that diet/zero/lite/free horseshit either. I'd rather just moderate the good/real stuff than try to convince myself the other versions taste as good (newsflash: they don't, and never do/will).

Diet Dr. Pepper, as those kinds of things go, isn't as awful as Diet Coke (how that got to the manufacturing stage is beyond me), but even those aren't close to the real thing. So I just have one (real) Dr. Pepper a day, or one every 2-3 days with a certain meal, at a treat/reward, and just drink water otherwise. Long gone are the days where I'd guzzle multiple ones. Nothing pudges me up faster than going bonkers on the Dr. Pepper.

Being the nectar of the gods that it is, that's my only real dietary struggle I face. I'd stick an IV of it straight into my arm if I knew I could get away with it.
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PB PM
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2021-01-28, 12:42

Soda is a big one, used to drink a can a day. Last February I stopped and now maybe once a week as a treat. I lost ten pounds in a month or two. Had to buy a tighter belt.
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psmith2.0
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2021-01-28, 12:48

Same here! Huge difference. Actually, I borrowed a neighbor's awl and poked three closer/tighter holes in my existing belt. I went from the very last notch to seven over (each hole an inch apart, so...).

Yeah.

When you have to poke brand new holes into your belt because your jeans or shorts are sliding down your hips, you know you're onto something.

I think I'll write a book. Everyone does, right?

"Uh, maybe lay off the soda a bit? The end."

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kscherer
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2021-01-28, 13:41

Biggest diet mistake the world has ever made is soda. Drink it at your own risk. Literally!
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drewprops
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2021-01-28, 15:01

:: me looks around, glass of soda raised to tubby lips ::

But, but, I thought we were talking about Covid-19??!!

:: stares hard at can of droid-flavored Coke Zero ::


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kscherer
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2021-01-28, 16:12

Yeah, but sometimes it's what folks been doing while dealing with COVID-19.
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drewprops
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2021-01-28, 18:07

A whole lot, sadly. Getting back to counting calories is tough, but I know it works.

HEY

Who here has been vaccinated so far?

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PB PM
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2021-01-28, 20:16

Not yet, my age bracket isn’t due to get vaccinated until August or September.
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2021-01-28, 20:30

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Biggest diet mistake the world has ever made is soda. Drink it at your own risk. Literally!
That and having too much salt in, oh I don't know, almost everything.
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drewprops
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2021-02-10, 17:50

Got vaccinated today as the result of a friend getting me over to a vaccination site where I was able to ask about openings - they actually had several today and we pounced.


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tomoe
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2021-02-10, 19:55

That’s awesome.

Both my dad and grandma are getting their first shots of the Moderna vaccine this week.

I’m hopeful I’ll get it sometime by the end of summer or whenever. I signed up for notification, but have zero risk factors other than having dealt with almost 12 months of boredom due to shelter in place.
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kieran
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2021-02-10, 23:26

I got my first shot last week with my wife. Next dose coming in three weeks.

I saw that Massachusetts just started allowing people who escort 75 year olds to the sites can get one too.

I really hope that all fo these sites just open up to everyone quickly. We need to get this shit kicked.

No more Twitter. It's Mastodon now.
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drewprops
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2021-02-11, 11:56

I have been encouraged by former Covid-downplayers I know who have been vaccinated. I think the general public has a strong desire to get the vaccination.


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drewprops
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2021-02-11, 12:00

No sooner had I posted the previous comment than I received a note from a voice artist who records for a news outlet about the resistance to vaccinations in Pakistan and the surrounding region:

"... nobody wants to vaccine. There has been bad PR spread about the ingredients being against the Muslim diet. I don't know what that would mean unless it contains alcohol. And people don't trust Western governments providing them with vaccines. It's a sad thing."


Shit.
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Yontsey
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2021-02-11, 12:05

I’d get ASAP. Unfortunately I doubt I’ll get one before the summer.
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psmith2.0
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2021-02-11, 12:15

I've said this all along...even if/when the ultimate, end-all/be-all vaccine is created, and it proves to be consequence-free, safe and effective for everyone (just go with me here, I'm making a point), there will be those - many in number - who'd never get it for various reasons like above, legit or otherwise (political, religious, cultural, etc.).

They're going to believe what they're going to believe, and that won't change. People are already making this their hill to die on, so why would they suddenly buy into "oh, here's the cure...everyone enjoy!" They're not. Drew's story above, in addition to all the ones we already know, doesn't surprise me one bit.

We're all going to be wearing a mask (two of them, according to the latest from the CDC), and dealing with this, for the rest of our lives. Once politics and culture entered into it, it was a lock. The world changed forever last year, may as well get used to it. Buy stock in mask companies, I guess, because you ain't taking them off anytime soon, I'm betting.

Unfortunate.

I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist. There is a difference.

But, believe me, I'd love nothing more than to be proven spectacularly wrong on this one.
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Matsu
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2021-02-11, 15:11

If people want to die because they think their deity’s imposed some dietary/medical restriction, I guess that’s up to them. However, they’re likely going to have to accept limits and social controls as a consequence of those choices. That should include restrictions on travel/migration and access to public institutions
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Frank777
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2021-02-11, 16:36

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If people want to die because they think their deity’s imposed some dietary/medical restriction, I guess that’s up to them. However, they’re likely going to have to accept limits and social controls as a consequence of those choices. That should include restrictions on travel/migration and access to public institutions
Authoritarianism is always the first response these days, even before finding out what the actual problem is.

A number of pro-life Christians have expressed concerns that some of the available vaccines have been tested on cell lines derived from live babies who were then aborted right afterward.

That crosses all kinds of ethical lines and is unnecessary with today's technology. Using those ethically-questionable cell lines from the 70's is very profitable for pharma companies, but is counterproductive when you want to install confidence in a public vaccine.

Go with using force if you like (it's the pro-choice way), but you should also recognize that there are enough hard-core pro-lifers in North America to prevent herd immunity in many places.
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2021-02-11, 17:21

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We're all going to be wearing a mask (two of them, according to the latest from the CDC), and dealing with this, for the rest of our lives. Once politics and culture entered into it, it was a lock. The world changed forever last year, may as well get used to it. Buy stock in mask companies, I guess, because you ain't taking them off anytime soon, I'm betting.

Unfortunate.

I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist. There is a difference.

But, believe me, I'd love nothing more than to be proven spectacularly wrong on this one.
Exactly, I always chuckle to myself when I hear people saying how excited they are to get the vaccine and that they can go back to normal. If we had got things shut down early and stop the spread we might have had an opportunity to go back to the old normal, now I doubt there is any chance of that. Yearly vaccinations to get some semblance of what used to be normal, sure! The old normal? Not going to happen the way the virus is mutating, particularly because of what is happening in countries that are doing nothing. The latest research I've seen is that herd immunity in Brazil has failed (it was at around 70% in some communities), but new variants of the virus are sweeping back through those communities sparking huge outbreaks. Anyone who thought herd immunity would work better think again.
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2021-02-11, 18:08

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Authoritarianism is always the first response these days, even before finding out what the actual problem is.

A number of pro-life Christians have expressed concerns that some of the available vaccines have been tested on cell lines derived from live babies who were then aborted right afterward.

That crosses all kinds of ethical lines and is unnecessary with today's technology. Using those ethically-questionable cell lines from the 70's is very profitable for pharma companies, but is counterproductive when you want to install confidence in a public vaccine.

Go with using force if you like (it's the pro-choice way), but you should also recognize that there are enough hard-core pro-lifers in North America to prevent herd immunity in many places.
That’s not at all how these lines were generated and it’s a myth with respect to almost all modern vaccines. Not that there is anything morally objectionable about using tissue donated to medicine after someone or something has died.

To be absolutely clear here: the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are not made using any cell line at all. The adenovirus vaccine from AstraZeneca doesn’t use fetal cells for its production. So this is an absolute lie.
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Matsu
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2021-02-11, 19:24

I didn’t say anything about force. It ought to be abundantly clear that viruses don’t care about our politics or beliefs. Societies do, and as a result go to great lengths to protect choices. They also go to great lengths to protect health and safety and ground those protections in research and evidence. It may be paradoxical that they also protect a person’s willingness to ignore that evidence or otherwise remain ignorant of it. Freedom is not easy, for either side. It may allow someone to absorb a risk upon themselves, yet limit the ability of that person to impose those risks on others. That is nothing even remotely related to authoritarianism. That’s evidence based policy.
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Frank777
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2021-02-11, 19:50

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That’s not at all how these lines were generated and it’s a myth with respect to almost all modern vaccines...

To be absolutely clear here: the mRNA vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are not made using any cell line at all. The adenovirus vaccine from AstraZeneca doesn’t use fetal cells for its production. So this is an absolute lie.
I'm not a scientist personally, and I don't know the ins and out of vaccine production. But I didn't say the vaccine was made with the cell lines, I said they were tested on them. And I believe that is completely true. From a culture where we outlaw testing of consumer products on animals, it is kind of strange to be arguing that it's totally kosher to be sourcing cell lines from the remains of aborted children.

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Not that there is anything morally objectionable about using tissue donated to medicine after someone or something has died.
I doubt the unborn child has consented to the donation. And when you say it's fine because the "owner" of the property has consented, it certainly has the ring of the kind of thing they used to say during slavery. It's either a human life or it isn't, and since large numbers of people believe that it is one, isn't it reckless to be poking them in the eye needlessly when we need the vaccine to be widely accepted?


One last thing: Was the tissue really obtained after the "thing", as you put it, had died?
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2021-02-11, 20:06

This all sounds a little like an anti-science red herring.
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