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psmith2.0
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2005-06-30, 20:07

Even if it didn't happen this time around, I bet by this time next year, every iPod with a screen (the full-size whiteys and the minis) will have color displays.

No, I have to proof, verification or good reason. But that doesn't stop anyone else here.

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Messiahtosh
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2005-07-01, 02:07

Special edition iPod guesses... I love doing this

Coldplay

DMB

Green Day

Red Hot Chili Peppers

Eminem
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2005-07-01, 02:15

Ugh, I've never been a fan of the special edition iPods. They decrease the value of the iPod brand, IMO. While the iPod is obviously a music device, I don't like it being associated with any one band or artist. If they wanted to introduce a black iPod, why not do just that then, instead of having a U2 Special Edition iPod?

Then again, I wouldn't mind limited edition iPods, like Apple sold back in late 2002.

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2005-07-01, 05:57

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If they want to introduce a black iPod, why not do that then, instead of having a U2 iPod?
Because you get the whole backlog of U2 albums with it. The color had more to do with U2 then a black iPod.

special edition iPods should be limited to those with a large backlog of music.
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2005-07-01, 06:31

It's odd though, the concept behind the special editions. If you have a "band x" iPod with the entire back catalogue on, who are you trying to sell it to? "Band X's" fans, I guess. And who already owns 98% of that back catalogue...?

My girlfriend is a major U2 fan, but bought an normal iPod because she already owns all those songs and won't pay for them twice. It's all a bit odd, to my mind.
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2005-07-01, 06:34

Well, if she was a true fan, she wouldn't mind paying twice for the music, if that gave her the iPod to show the world just how big a fan she is!
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psmith2.0
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2005-07-01, 06:35

EXACTLY. Thank you (to Bryson's comment, not ghoti's )

I said this on the same day the U2 iPod was unveiled. Yeah, it's a good deal (their entire catalog for that price...but I figured anyone who was THAT much of a fan a) already HAD it all, and b) had already ripped it an a more audiophile-friendly higher bit-rate than you could get from iTMS

That whole U2 iPod thing just completely escaped me on about three levels.

And I can't believe the damn thing is still hangin' around...

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2005-07-01, 06:40

Well there are services that will rip your CDs for you - so perhaps this is similar. Not every U2 fan knows how to rip music, or is an audiophile. Plus, it doesn't look so bad. I still prefer the normal iPod look, but it's kind of appealing - and will certainly earn you more looks than an ordinary iPod will these days.
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2005-07-01, 06:41

Mostly because the money Bono gets from it, he gives away to his charities...

and before 9/11 U2 was popular, but after, they became rock god, thus why the entire catalog iPod happen.Most missed everything before elevation.
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2005-07-01, 13:17

Since I am one that owns the iPod in question (U2) and a big fan of the band from my high school days in the early early 80's. I have U2 on vinyl, cassette, CD (some of these albums I have in all three) and now the Complete U2.

I looked at what I would actually get for my $100, and there were over 200 songs that I did not have. Now there is also 200 or so song versions that I have that did not come with the Complete U2; most of which were live recordings that would show up in import record shops. Some of these recordings are very rough and some are very good.

Hell, they didn't even include the Superbowl performance they did. I still need to get a clean copy of that. The whole Slain Castle concert when his father died wasn't included either. The Complete U2 might have gone 2000 tracks if they had wanted.

They will (most likely) release a Vertigo tour CD/DVD most likely before Christmas, and it won't be included.

It is truly the Incomplete U2, but the value was and is still there, even for uber fans like me.

Mile 1
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2005-07-01, 20:31

Quote:
Originally Posted by Messiahtosh
Special edition iPod guesses... I love doing this

Coldplay

DMB

Green Day

Red Hot Chili Peppers

Eminem
Well, since Eminem sued Apple over an iTunes commercial, its unlikely....
but I'd love to see it
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2005-07-01, 21:23

How about a special iPod for each of these : 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s with the top 300 songs of the decade...

That I would buy... I doubt they would make a Depeche Mode iPod- but that and a Morrissey and New Order pod would be the best.
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2005-07-01, 21:30

some stuff I found in iTunes points to a new iPod (some placeholder source icons, 2 different sizes) and possibly a movie store:

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/6...odphone8yf.png
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2005-07-12, 23:58

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Originally Posted by Messiahtosh
Special edition iPod guesses... I love doing this

Coldplay

DMB

Green Day

Red Hot Chili Peppers

Eminem
I love guessing SE iPods too.

Coldplay, I could easily see. Easily. In fact, I'm a bit surprised that the U2 iPod wasn't replaced with a Coldplay edition when it went color. Coldplay just released a new album, it sold extremely well on iTunes (didn't it even come with extra tracks?) - a Coldplay iPod seems so incredibly obvious, I'm a bit stunned we saw a color version of the "limited" edition U2 iPod. They could keep it black, and put the X & Y graphic over the clickwheel. I'd buy it.

Like I've said before, I could see Special Edition iPods reserved for more "adult" bands, such as U2 and Coldplay, but I could just as easily see Special Edition iPod minis for "trendier" fare (*crosses fingers for a Killers iPm*). Following that logic, we'd see Special Edition iPod shuffles for garage bands
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2005-07-13, 11:00

Most of DMB's music isn't on the iTMS, only their most recent album, "Stand Up." I doubt they'd do an SE iPod.
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2005-07-31, 00:36

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1GB Shuffle(flash)
2GB Shuffle(flash)
4GB mini(flash)
8 or 10GB mini(HD)
30GB iPod(HD)
60GB iPod(HD)

RIP 20GB iPod monochrome.

Well I was right about the RIP monochrome, but apple screwed me over on the size. But I'm sticking with everything else, and this time with prices:

1GB Shuffle(flash) $99
2GB mini~sport(flash) $149
4GB mini~Sport(flash) $199
8GB mini(HD, color) $249
20GB iPod(HD, color) $299
60GB iPod(HD, color) $349

RIP 512 Shuffle and 6GB iPod mini, like the 30GB, it's really lost out there once the 8GB comes.

The random 80GB video iPod may show up at $399, but thats going way out there.

Japan is going to eat the mini~sport up

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2005-08-10, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Messiahtosh
Special edition iPod guesses... I love doing this

Coldplay

DMB

Green Day

Red Hot Chili Peppers

Eminem
My guesses:

The Rolling Stones

Aerosmith

Both have a big catalouge and a broad fan base. They both also have appealing logos that could be put on the ipod or in a marketing scheme, not sure how that would look on the iPod though.
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2005-08-10, 14:08

This isn't about SE iPods, but about video iPods. Video iPods would be nice. But they wouldn't need to be completely *new* iPods. Skrew having new hardware, they could just come up with new firmware for the current iPod to allow them to play videos! I mean if some people can make Linux and DOOM for iPod, I think Apple can make Quicktime iPod Edition (and they could make the movie trailers downloadable...). Because, I really want video, but just kinda got an iPod!
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2005-08-11, 08:23

I don't see a Coldplay iPod for a very long time - they've only really had 3 albums, it's just waaay to early to do something like the U2 iPod for a band that's only been around for what? 5 years?

U2 was a very good choice, successful for 20+ years and highly marketable. I think the Rolling Stones would be the next obvious choice, especially now their albums are available.

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2005-08-11, 08:38

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Originally Posted by None Such
My guesses:

The Rolling Stones

Aerosmith

Both have a big catalouge and a broad fan base. They both also have appealing logos that could be put on the iPod or in a marketing scheme, not sure how that would look on the iPod though.
Agreed. I was just trying to think which bands have a large enough back catalogue to make an SE iPod worth it, and they're great suggestions.

Should Bon Jovi ever make a comeback, I reckon they'd justify one too, or Genesis, maybe?
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2005-08-11, 09:05

I thought we were talking about SE iPods, not "The Complete..." collections on iTunes.

Am I the only one who thinks that maybe future SE iPods won't necessarily debut with iTunes compilations for that band?

Everybody's all like, "Coldplay, no way, how could Apple sell a Coldplay iTunes collection?" But I don't think a Coldplay iPod would mean Apple would have to sell The Complete Coldplay.

I agree that bands with only a few albums probably wouldn't be the first choices for a SE iPod, for other reasons, but Coldplay is so popular already I think they'd be the exception to that rule.
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2005-08-11, 12:35

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Agreed. I was just trying to think which bands have a large enough back catalogue to make an SE iPod worth it, and they're great suggestions.

Should Bon Jovi ever make a comeback, I reckon they'd justify one too, or Genesis, maybe?
Bon Jovi?

I think he has 3 songs at most.

Genesis? I'm pretty sure there are a couple bands more worthy than that. Remember, they have to have mass appeal.
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2005-08-11, 16:28

Frank Zappa
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2005-08-13, 03:24

Green Day...Black and green???
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2005-08-13, 04:51

Come on, the answer is pretty clear: Apple needs a popular young band to keep the iPod in style. Genesis iPod? Yeah, I can see it: "Go on and listen to the music your parents thought was cool" and "iPod: music for the previous generation".

Coldplay is a very nice match for the iPod, I agree it would be the biggest shot... R.E.M. maybe, but maybe not "cool" enough right now. I can see a silver iPod on its way, and it would need an american band. It just can't be that #1 american gadget has only Irish and English special editions. Metallica... too much eighties, Eminem, too controversial, Rolling Stones would be a great shot but are English... maybe with their new album we'll have a surprise, but I'll stick for an american band or author.

The most similar pick to U2 is R.E.M., Pearl Jam could be nice too...

But I even doubt they'll ever come with another SE iPod.
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2005-08-13, 12:18

I'm beginning to wonder if we'll see a second SE iPod, too.

I mean...they've kept the U2 iPod around for so long, while they could/should have replaced it with other Special Editions...they even upgraded it! Not that I think it's a bad thing that they upgraded it, but I think it's odd that they've kept it around for so long. In my opinion, they should have brought out a new SE iPod (Coldplay) with the latest round of upgrades, or else simply killed off the U2 iPod - everybody who really wants one should have one by now anyway...

iPod as collectible? I love the concept, but I question Apple's execution. I think SE iPods could be a really big iPod seller, but only if Apple keeps them "Special" enough.
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2005-08-13, 12:25

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iPod as collectible?
Can you imagine the TAiP? (20th Anniversary iPod)

They'll charge $1000 and some guy will come over to your house, dressed in a tux, to set it up for you.
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2005-08-13, 12:30

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2005-08-13, 12:37

Personally I would just like to see more "Complete Box Sets"

The complete U2 for 149 dollars was a really good deal and had a huge amount of things included that would be near impossible to track down in a store. It really displayed the iTMS's advantage over record stores.
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2005-08-13, 15:14

radiohead. They are AWOL from iTMS up to now.

REM (mentioned above) are well-respected by everyone, I believe.

Pearl Jam - without a record label now (their choice) and big pushers of the iTMS on their website.

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