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2021-01-09, 18:19

Loaner machines would be made with removable chips.


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kieran
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2021-01-11, 21:05

I just got the email notice that the repair has been done. Didn't even ship out of the Fifth Avenue store until Sunday, got looked out today, and has apparently been shipped back out tonight with delivery by the end of the day tomorrow.

No details on what they fixed or replaced, but at least I'll get it back tomorrow. Only without it for five days, which isn't the worst since part of that was the weekend.
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2021-01-12, 17:28

Sooo.... did you get it yet? Any details on what was done? I'm assuming they replace the logic board since there isn't much else to do to it.

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2021-01-12, 17:30

The "good" thing, I suppose, is you got your trouble out of the way early. Anything beyond this is ruckus-raising time. Hopefully this was your one, and only, problem.
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2021-01-12, 23:21

Sorry to keep you all in suspense. It got delivered early today, but I wasn't able to get to it until a short time ago.

They replaced the logic board and the TouchID sensor. Guessing that was just because of the logic board replacement.

Seems to be going ok now, but just restoring everything to it now. I really like this notebook, so I'm glad to have it back pretty quickly.

I'm hoping this is the one and only thing that gives me a problem with this. Really not looking for a repeat of my iMac having 3 screen replacements in 9 months before being replaced.
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2021-01-13, 08:36

Wait a minute... You don't live your life to answer our questions? I'm offended.

Glad it was a quick turnaround. I think you're right on the TouchID sensor given it's part of the Secure Enclave thing. I have to admit, I'd like to try out an M1 system for myself but I can't justify getting one at all right now.

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2021-01-13, 09:54

Well, sure, I definitely bought the new MBP just to tell everyone here about tit. There was no other reason at all...

I like this computer a lot, but in all honestly, if you didn't know it was a different chip, you really wouldn't know it was new with regular usage, besides the battery life. The battery life on these things is amazing. I'm not doing anything CPU intensive, so the biggest gains are in battery life.

I'm tempted to try some of the encoding that I'm doing in iFlicks on my iMac on the MBP just to see what the difference looks like.
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2021-01-13, 10:08

You should. That would be a pretty cut-and-dry comparison that you'd be able to notice (or not notice) a difference on.
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2021-01-13, 10:11

You really should. Though really iFlicks needs to be M1 native if it isn't for a real world difference. Still be curious how well it handles it compared to the iMac.

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Frank777
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2021-01-14, 14:14

Maybe the second round of Apple Silicon updates will finally bring us the mythical 8K iMac?
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2021-01-14, 18:08

Seems odd to me that they'd go 6K on their very-high-end display and then 8K on a Mac? Unless, that is, they want to go Retina 3x like on some newer iPhones. A 3x 27-inch iMac would be 7680x4800, which is close enough to 8K that they might call it that. (I suspect they don't want to introduce some weird ppi in between.)

But that also seems like a "just because we can" thing to do. With the iPhones, they went 3x in part because OLED really doesn't have the same kind of subpixel resolution.
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kscherer
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2021-01-14, 18:18

I don't suspect an 8k iMac any time soon. If anything, they would go 6k so it matches the resolution of the XDR. And that would likely mean a 30" iMac.

And 2 screen sizes have been the norm for so many years I can barely remember the last time that there was only one (early 2002?).

For giggles, I just measured a 21.5" iMac and it is almost exactly 24" from bottom left of the black bezel to the curved upper right. If that was a tiny bit larger, and the curve diameter a tiny bit smaller, then a 24" iMac would fit neatly into something about the same size as the current 21.5". So, it seams fitting that the rumored 24" iMac is a replacement for the current 21.5" form factor. And that leaves a lot of room for the 27" to grow in both size and resolution. So, a 30" display could make a lot of sense, considering it wouldn't be any larger physically than the current 27.

A 24" 5k and a 30" 6k thus make very good sense, at least aesthetically.

But, my inner hunches tend toward the current screen sizes within new, iPad Pro-like bezels.

I'm drooling a lot, because that smaller screen size is my next Mac.

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2021-01-14, 18:50

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I don't suspect an 8k iMac any time soon. If anything, they would go 6k so it matches the resolution of the XDR. And that would likely mean a 30" iMac.
32, even, but yeah, exactly.

There were rumors of a 24-inch model, so going from 20/27 to 24/32 and logical resolutions 2048x1152/2560x1600 to 2288x1287/3008x1692 (~218ppi on the smaller, from ~224 to ~216 on the bigger model) makes sense to me. I guess this is driven by a lot of customers feeling "20? 27? I really kind of want something in between". 24-inch displays have become fairly common, whereas 27-inch is just within reach, but 32 feels fairly high-end, so now Apple can push 24 as the new default.

Plus, there's the likely bezel reduction and all.

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And 2 screen sizes have been the norm for so many years I can barely remember the last time that there was only one (early 2002?).
Well, yeah, before the iMac G4 was introduced in Jan 2002, there was only the 15-inch. The G4 first shipped as 15- and 17-inch models; then eventually, they added a third 20-inch size in late 2003! (The 15-inch G4 was… 4:3. How weird, from today's perspective. Then again, most/all? iPads are 4:3…)

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For giggles, I just measured a 21.5" iMac and it is almost exactly 24" from bottom left of the black bezel to the curved upper right. If that was a tiny bit larger, and the curve diameter a tiny bit smaller, then a 24" iMac would fit neatly into something about the same size as the current 21.5". So, it seams fitting that the rumored 24" iMac is a replacement for the current 21.5" form factor. And that leaves a lot of room for the 27" to grow in both size and resolution. So, a 30" display could make a lot of sense, considering it wouldn't be any larger physically than the current 27.
Yeah, though… people should be careful what they wish for. Smaller bezels could mean worse (or, not better) webcams.
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2021-01-14, 18:55

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Yeah, though… people should be careful what they wish for. Smaller bezels could mean worse (or, not better) webcams.
Not sure I buy that. The current iPads Pro have significantly better "webcams" than any Mac.
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2021-01-14, 19:15

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Not sure I buy that. The current iPads Pro have significantly better "webcams" than any Mac.
Yes. But they're also significantly thicker!
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2021-01-14, 19:17

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Yes. But they're also significantly thicker!
They are? We are talking about iMacs, right?
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2021-01-14, 19:54

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They are? We are talking about iMacs, right?
Yeah, well, the 2012-and-beyond iMac is tapered (a design change that, IMO, can be summarized as "unforced error" — I just don't see how the you'll-virtually-never-notice aesthetic difference outweighs the drawbacks?), and the area where the webcam resides is rather thin.

The iMac Pro seems to have a better webcam in (mostly?) the same enclosure, so I suppose they can improve it. But I suspect there's also a drive to make it even thinner (though perhaps not any more, post-Ive?).
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2021-01-15, 19:21

Speaking of the iMac, here's the latest on that front.

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The new ‌iMac‌ models will feature slimmed down bezels around the screen, and the metal chin will be removed in favor of a design that's similar to the Pro Display XDR monitor that Apple released in 2019.

Rather than a curved rear design, the iMacs will feature a flat back, which is also a design that we're expecting to see with the upcoming MacBook Pro models, and prior rumors have described this as "iPad Pro design language." There will be two versions to replace the existing 21.5 and 27-inch models, and prior rumors have suggested that one of these models will measure in at 23 to 24 inches.
The pic/mockup accompanying the article is interesting. Just looks like a display without the "chin" and all.

While I'm at it, there's also word that Apple is developing two Mac Pro desktops, with the current larger one staying on Intel(?) while a smaller version (less than half the size of the other) would be M1-based and remind folks of the G4 Cube.



And there's also *whew* talk of a new, lower cost display being worked on as well, more of a consumer-oriented one to replace the Thunderbolt Display they discontinued in 2016.

Looks like 2021 might be a cool year to be a Mac user. New, redesigned...everything.
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2021-01-15, 20:35

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Seems odd to me that they'd go 6K on their very-high-end display and then 8K on a Mac? Unless, that is, they want to go Retina 3x like on some newer iPhones. A 3x 27-inch iMac would be 7680x4800, which is close enough to 8K that they might call it that. (I suspect they don't want to introduce some weird ppi in between.)
I hate it when you people apply logic to my dreams.

That does make complete sense. Really, chasing 8K for video editing is only worth it if the screen is actually 10K right?
Because you need room for Final Cut's toolbars and such.

Makes you think it will be a very long wait for 8k content for those fancy TVs promoted at CES.
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2021-01-15, 21:28

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Looks like 2021 might be a cool year to be a Mac user. New, redesigned...everything.
Just read an article at MacRumors that says that Magsafe will return to Mac portables and the TouchBar is history.

It's like Christmas all over again.
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2021-01-15, 21:36

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I hate it when you people apply logic to my dreams.
I didn’t mean to pop a bubble; I just like to overanalyze.

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That does make complete sense. Really, chasing 8K for video editing is only worth it if the screen is actually 10K right?
Because you need room for Final Cut's toolbars and such.

Makes you think it will be a very long wait for 8k content for those fancy TVs promoted at CES.
Right, except for using 8k footage for cropping.

But I don’t see 8k being very useful in home theater setups (the TV has to be fairly large to benefit from 4K, even), and between streaming and the pandemic, it seems theaters have had their heyday in the past.
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Yes, unless you are getting one of those new 77” screens or larger, I don’t see much point in going for more than 4K. I’m still satisfied with 1080p for Blu-ray movie watching and steaming, the only reason to upgrade to 4K would be if I wanted an HDR panel.

I shoot 4k video on my cameras, but downsample it all to 1440p or 1080p for final use. Hides some of the noise in low light video, which is nice.
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