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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Oh boy, I wasn't doing anything hardcore and then things got slow and choppy then a window popped up and said you must restart your computer now. After I restarted and logged back in a message came up and said. "Mac Os X unexpectedly crashed would you like to send a report to apple?
WHY Would this happen? What should i do, nothing? It works fine now. Does this happen much? ahhh |
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Multi-touch Piñata
Join Date: May 2004
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Oh noes!
It's nothing. |
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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You experienced a kernel panic. That's when there's a crash at the lowest level of the operating system and is not recoverable.
Apple KBase article #106227: What's a kernel panic? No, this does not happen often. I fewer kernel panics than I can count on one hand throughout the whole course of 10.3.x (on four Macs I use regularly) and I'm quite the power user, adding and running and killing things like mad in the Terminal that probably aren't 100% kosher. When you rebooted, you got that message because the kernel was able to log some information about the crash before it totally went kaput. Like when an application crashes, this is an opportunity to send that log back to Apple so the engineers can pick it apart and try to fix whatever bug caused it. The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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I shot the sherrif.
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That being said, if it's the only one you get, you should be fine. However, they're rare enough that if a new machine KP's more than once, I'd say it's time to run a hardware check on it.
Usually (over 80% of the time in my experience) KP's are caused by bad hardware, and most of that is bad RAM. Google is your frenemy. Caveat Emptor - Latin for tough titty I tend to interpret things in the way that's most hilarious to me |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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so do i need to run disk utility or do anything? If it happens again do I contact apple?
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa, ON
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In 3.5 years of running various versions of OS X, I have never had a kernel panic. I have had individual applications bug out very occasionally - disproportionately, these involved applications running on Classic - but I have never had, to my knowledge, a crash on the level of a kernel panic.
Admittedly I am not a 'power' user, but from my perspective - the perspective of an ordinary user - OS X has been rock solid. When there's an eel in the lake that's as long as a snake that's a moray. |
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I shot the sherrif.
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if it happens again in the next 6 months, run the hardware check and post the results here. otherwise don't worry about it.
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Well after reading these messages then I guess I should ask about my crashes. I have had about 6 since I got my Mac the 18th of March. Since I have been so used to my PC locking up I thought it was normal. My wife said Mac's should be more stable but I had no idea. They were spread out over the different versions of OSX (10.3.8-10.4.1). I will say that the normal state for my little mini is to have about 9 programs running at one time. (Mail, Safari, Handbreak, iCal, iTunes, MissingSync, QT7Pro, Folding@Home, etc...) I do video and audio editing. I think I might be doing a bit much for the mini, but it was my first chance to get away from WinXP. Any ideas? I'll keep an eye out for another one and try to better document what happens since this *shouldn't* be normal.
Edit: This is my panic.log Tue Apr 5 18:35:16 2005 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000000000000 PC=0x000000002A844140 Latest crash info for cpu 0: Exception state (sv=0x2C03EC80) PC=0x2A844140; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x2A844108; R1=0x17C03CD0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: 0x2A844108 0x2A844324 0x2A8406D0 0x0026762C 0x0026650C 0x00266470 Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI(2.1.5)@0x2a83c000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.1.5)@0x2a7c2000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x27d19000 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2C03EC80) previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x2A6FEC80) PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC panic(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0: Backtrace: 0x000835F8 0x00083ADC 0x0001EDA4 0x00090BD8 0x00093FCC Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2C03EC80) PC=0x2A844140; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x2A844108; R1=0x17C03CD0; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: 0x2A844108 0x2A844324 0x2A8406D0 0x0026762C 0x0026650C 0x00266470 Kernel loadable modules in backtrace (with dependencies): com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI(2.1.5)@0x2a83c000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily(2.1.5)@0x2a7c2000 dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(1.4)@0x27d19000 Exception state (sv=0x2A6FEC80) PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC ********* Mon Apr 11 09:31:32 2005 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x700 - Program DAR=0x00000000000F14A8 PC=0x00000000005E1280 Latest crash info for cpu 0: Exception state (sv=0x2B76D000) PC=0x005E1280; MSR=0x00089030; DAR=0x000F14A8; DSISR=0x0A000000; LR=0x000B632C; R1=0x17DF38E0; XCP=0x0000001C (0x700 - Program) Backtrace: 0x000B61C0 0x000B8530 0x000B8EB4 0x001E0098 0x00240DC4 0x00078C04 0x00078944 0x00057A4C 0x0005987C 0x0009109C 0x00093FCC Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2B76D000) previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x2B7D3780) PC=0x000A1858; MSR=0x4000D030; DAR=0x000F14A8; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x0004310C; R1=0xBFFFEC40; XCP=0x00000010 (0x400 - Inst access) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC panic(cpu 0): 0x700 - Program Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0: Backtrace: 0x000835F8 0x00083ADC 0x0001EDA4 0x00090BD8 0x00093FCC Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2B76D000) PC=0x005E1280; MSR=0x00089030; DAR=0x000F14A8; DSISR=0x0A000000; LR=0x000B632C; R1=0x17DF38E0; XCP=0x0000001C (0x700 - Program) Backtrace: 0x000B61C0 0x000B8530 0x000B8EB4 0x001E0098 0x00240DC4 0x00078C04 0x00078944 0x00057A4C 0x0005987C 0x0009109C 0x00093FCC Exception state (sv=0x2B7D3780) PC=0x000A1858; MSR=0x4000D030; DAR=0x000F14A8; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x0004310C; R1=0xBFFFEC40; XCP=0x00000010 (0x400 - Inst access) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 7.8.0: Wed Dec 22 14:26:17 PST 2004; root:xnu/xnu-517.11.1.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC ********* Sun May 15 23:59:31 2005 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x600 - Alignment DAR=0x0000000001CB5643 PC=0x00000000000A4064 Latest crash info for cpu 0: Exception state (sv=0x2D10A500) PC=0x000A4064; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x01CB5643; DSISR=0x00000060; LR=0x00097D44; R1=0x17783A70; XCP=0x00000018 (0x600 - Alignment) Backtrace: 0x00000000 0x0025C09C 0x0025CAEC 0x000EC60C 0x000EC7FC 0x002A8174 0x000ABA30 0x00000000 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2D10A500) previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x2D669000) PC=0x90001F2C; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0x002D3014; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x90B303F0; R1=0xBFFFC940; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.0.0: Sat Mar 26 14:15:22 PST 2005; root:xnu-792.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0006): 0x600 - Alignment Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0: Backtrace: 0x00095564 0x00095A7C 0x00026838 0x000A8184 0x000AB880 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2D10A500) PC=0x000A4064; MSR=0x00009030; DAR=0x01CB5643; DSISR=0x00000060; LR=0x00097D44; R1=0x17783A70; XCP=0x00000018 (0x600 - Alignment) Backtrace: 0x00000000 0x0025C09C 0x0025CAEC 0x000EC60C 0x000EC7FC 0x002A8174 0x000ABA30 0x00000000 Exception state (sv=0x2D669000) PC=0x90001F2C; MSR=0x0000F030; DAR=0x002D3014; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x90B303F0; R1=0xBFFFC940; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.0.0: Sat Mar 26 14:15:22 PST 2005; root:xnu-792.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC ********* Sat May 21 16:01:24 2005 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000017FDFF1C PC=0x00000000000B30D0 Latest crash info for cpu 0: Exception state (sv=0x2D132280) PC=0x000B30D0; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=0x17FDFF1C; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x000B30C0; R1=0x1764BB60; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: 0x0272A948 0x00147D84 0x0014EFD4 0x0013A464 0x0013A578 0x0011C6D4 0x000A9694 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2D132280) previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x27799780) PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.1.0: Tue May 10 18:16:08 PDT 2005; root:xnu-792.1.5.obj~4/RELEASE_PPC panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0: Backtrace: 0x00095564 0x00095A7C 0x0002683C 0x000A819C 0x000ABB00 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2D132280) PC=0x000B30D0; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=0x17FDFF1C; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x000B30C0; R1=0x1764BB60; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: 0x0272A948 0x00147D84 0x0014EFD4 0x0013A464 0x0013A578 0x0011C6D4 0x000A9694 Exception state (sv=0x27799780) PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.1.0: Tue May 10 18:16:08 PDT 2005; root:xnu-792.1.5.obj~4/RELEASE_PPC ********* Sun May 22 12:42:52 2005 Unresolved kernel trap(cpu 0): 0x300 - Data access DAR=0x0000000017FDFF1C PC=0x00000000000B30D0 Latest crash info for cpu 0: Exception state (sv=0x2D132280) PC=0x000B30D0; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=0x17FDFF1C; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x000B30C0; R1=0x1764BB60; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: 0x0272A948 0x00147D84 0x0014EFD4 0x0013A464 0x0013A578 0x0011C6D4 0x000A9694 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2D132280) previously dumped as "Latest" state. skipping... Exception state (sv=0x27799780) PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.1.0: Tue May 10 18:16:08 PDT 2005; root:xnu-792.1.5.obj~4/RELEASE_PPC panic(cpu 0 caller 0xFFFF0003): 0x300 - Data access Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0: Backtrace: 0x00095564 0x00095A7C 0x0002683C 0x000A819C 0x000ABB00 Proceeding back via exception chain: Exception state (sv=0x2D132280) PC=0x000B30D0; MSR=0x00001030; DAR=0x17FDFF1C; DSISR=0x42000000; LR=0x000B30C0; R1=0x1764BB60; XCP=0x0000000C (0x300 - Data access) Backtrace: 0x0272A948 0x00147D84 0x0014EFD4 0x0013A464 0x0013A578 0x0011C6D4 0x000A9694 Exception state (sv=0x27799780) PC=0x00000000; MSR=0x0000D030; DAR=0x00000000; DSISR=0x00000000; LR=0x00000000; R1=0x00000000; XCP=0x00000000 (Unknown) Kernel version: Darwin Kernel Version 8.1.0: Tue May 10 18:16:08 PDT 2005; root:xnu-792.1.5.obj~4/RELEASE_PPC ********* Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. Last edited by turtle : 2005-05-30 at 23:52. Reason: Got more info and a copy of my log file |
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Valiant Vicks Vizier
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Definitely sounds like bad hardware...
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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The only thing I have upgraded was the RAM. I put the 1GB in myself and got it from OWC which seemed reputable enough. The external drive has changed from USB2.0 to the Firewire I now have on there.
Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Valiant Vicks Vizier
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I'm no expert on this stuff, but if you say that all you did was upgrade the ram, then that might be your problem. Because the hardware was bad, doesn't mean that your RAM isn't from a reputable company. I'd just say that you bought a bad stick of RAM. Although there are a number of possibilities. (I could totally be wrong on this, so please check with others, that was just my educated guess)
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rams it
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Seattle
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I got one of these in 10.4 when I took out my airport card while my PowerBook was on. |
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Join Date: May 2004
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Is that a dancing happy Mac on the screen!?! Why is he happy if he just crashed? Does he actually dance when that gibberish is on the screen?
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Or perhaps it's an Irish Jig in honour of being silly enough to take out a component like that when the computer is on!!!!! 'Remember, measure life by the moments that take your breath away, not by how many breaths you take' Extreme Sports Cafe | ESC's blog | scratt's blog | @thescratt |
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