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Because there’s no money in it. People have moved on to tablets and laptops. The few on a desktop tower at all have use cases like high-end gaming (not interesting for Apple software-wise, and they want custom rigs anyway) or high-end AV, which Apple is hereby offering. There’s not much below between that that a laptop isn’t also powerful enough for.
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To whit: if I want a desktop, I will build a simulation/gaming rig...
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That is, if there was no Apple TV+ coming, the new Pro wouldn't be anything like this. A core customer of previous Mac Pro/Power Mac segment has been print shops, and Apple is still perfectly content to tell them to buy iMacs. (The iMac probably has the horsepower they need, but they do like bigger pivoting displays and lots of internal/upgradable storage.) Quote:
They filled it with the iMac Pro instead of a tower. Apple has a phobia about mid-range towers, I'm not sure why. When I had a Power Mac, I upgraded it semi-regularly. Then Apple forced me into a 2009 27" iMac, and I knew it would have little upgradability, so I bought specs I thought were somewhat future-proof. I haven't upgraded my main machine now in ten years (this fall...) How is that better for Apple? Quote:
The question is, will a 'regular' 32" display come for MacBook Pro customers? I'm genuinely surprised the Mac Mini can drive that monster of a monitor. Maybe for my upgrade this fall, I should look at a Mini instead of the iMac. |
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haha apple users should prepare their wallets
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I'm thinking … I'm thiiiiinking … Nope. Not one. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Also, has anyone verified how the 'pivot' function is implemented?
Is this something new in MacOS that display makers can easily/cheaply implement in their products, or is it baked into the monitor? |
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Warning: Be careful clicking that button unless you actually rotate the display. Mouse control will be, umm, off—just a touch! - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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If this is built-in now, why the lack of rotating monitors for Mac? (This is a problem, as I've now talked myself into wanting one...) I don't recall seeing rotating displays for the Mac being heavily promoted since the days of Radius Displays in the 90's. |
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Where do I sign the petition asking Apple to throw away the iMac Pro, and introduce a Cheese Grater option at that price point?
I'm surprised no one has done this yet. |
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Hey, there's an idea. You create the partition and we'll post it here at AN. Edit: Never mind. I did it.
I'll make it a sticky thread. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) Last edited by kscherer : 2019-06-05 at 12:00. |
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It seems fairly simple to me. Mac users have been complaining for years that there has been no highly-customizable Mac, no rack-mount Mac, no high-end Mac. Well now there is. |
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And second, just get a VESA mount that allows rotation. |
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macOS has been able to do portrait orientation for a long time. I used to use a Mac full time for my job and had one in portrait for code/CLI. That was back in 2012. Any monitor on the right stand is a rotating monitor.
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Once they move the iMacs towards an iMac Pro-like design where there are even fewer moving parts, that sounds feasible. OTOH, if you really want that, again, you can just configure the iMac with a VESA mount and get one of those rotating mounts. It's… fine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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The machine is so thin now, would that kind cooling even work with the machine on its side? |
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If it's forced air then it should work just fine on its side. Upside-down might be more of a cooling challenge, but forced air flow can handle odd angles normally.
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At some point, they'll want to do a redesign of the iMac. As far as I'm concerned, the past almost-fifteen years (yikes) have really been refinements of the iMac G5 design. Big screen, chin, flat side, ports on the back. (Every time I use an iMac — I don't have one myself, nor do we have one in the office, but some customers and friends have one — , I'm baffled how you can deal with the port situation. At least get something weird like the Satechi Clamp.) Yeah, it moved to aluminum, and got thinner, and all that. But… come on. It's really the G5. Just look at how vastly different the G3 and G4 designs were! I'm guessing Ive thinks of this design as the logical ultimate AIO design, with the "a design is done when there's nothing left to remove" mantra. Great. Time to add some stuff back. Such as, maybe, a pivot screen! |
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You know, it just occurred to me that, since the new Mac Pro can handle six ProDisplay XDR things, that you could have them all lined up and rotate every other one!
Would that be weird? - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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The mainstream 5K Display for Macs is now available.
That means sometime in early to mid-2020, Apple can intro a version of the Mac Pro that caters to traditional (non-Hollywood) Pro customers. And we'll finally be all set. The only problem is that the LG monitor doesn't seem to have built-in rotation. And you guys have now sold me on that feature. |
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Hell, just buy a 21" iMac 4k and be done with it. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Seriously. I was cleaning my office last week and looked at my two VESA mounted side monitors and said "Eh". I turned one of them 90° and it's actually pretty nice. Never would've considered it if not for that thread. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The thing I can’t get over with the new Mac Pro isn’t so much the price, but that the base config is just terrible. Less storage than the iMac Pro, which is a grand cheaper and includes a display — there should really be no spec on the Mac Pro that’s inferior to the iMac Pro, given the pricing. And the base GPU is just cheap. You can get it on the iMac. Not the iMac Pro, the regular iMac. For half the price. With a display.
I’m okay with Apple taking the Mac Pro into super high-end pricing territory if that’s where they thing the tower workstation market is…as long as they give it the specs to match. But the base specs don’t. It seems more like Apple is basically taking the tower they would have sold profitably at $3K in the past and now they’re charging $6K for it, because they think they can. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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