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2016-03-11, 22:02

I don't know what, if anything, the Apple event tag line means, beyond a pun on the address of the event. Intriguing though. So far the rumours indicate a new smaller iPhone, new iPads, and new straps for the Apple Watch, and that's about it. If so, seems pretty low key and less than intriguing. I suppose there could could be a surprise, but it truly would be one, because I have not heard rumblings of anything major beyond an iCar - but an iCar, if it ever happens, would be years away, so it won't be that.

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2016-03-11, 22:29

iPad Air 3, including larger screen size, maybe a smaller screen iPad Pro, and iWatch nonsense. Good job Apple, innovation at it's finest. Jaded, you bet.
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2016-03-11, 23:08

I heard from two obviously intoxicated Apple employees at the Genius Bar that they'll be introducing a 2-disc DVD set of orchestra strike loops for Garageband.



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Chinney
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2016-03-11, 23:20

Or maybe a new Apple branded breakfast cereal.
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2016-03-12, 01:41

Headphones. I bet new headphones.
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2016-03-12, 02:04

Isn't this where the fanboys demand a transformer/hybrid MacBook/iPad Pro?

How about this:

iPad Air 3 or iPad Pro w/9.7" display: Apple Pencil support, 4-speaker sound system, A9x, $499 in 32GB capacity.

Whine, cry, it doesn't run Mac OS X, have TB 3 and support 3 5k displays, 3 USB C ports and wash my dishes!

iPhone 6se: 4-inch display, A9 and M9, usual colors, Touch ID, etc.

Whine, cry, the screen is too big, er, I mean too small and it doesn't have 4 SD card slots for expansion, a removable battery that weighs 3 pounds, and I can't believe it doesn't come with built-in HDMI, USB, and Flappy Ass.

Apple Watch 2: S2 processor, new bands, a couple micrometers thinner, a couple grams lighter, a couple seconds better battery life.

Whine, cry, it doesn't have an extendable antenna, micro-pulse-oxygen/hydrogen meters, a built-in weather station and my porn isn't in 3-D.

Lé. Sigh.



I've gotten to the point where I hate these events. Not because Apple doesn't deliver, but because expectations have become unrealistic, out of touch, obtuse and selfish.

Of note, Apple will not release an 8-core, 3-pound MacBook Pro with 8 USB ports, 3 HDMI ports, 6-PCIe slots, 128GB RAM, Twin SLI-connected GPU's with 24GB VRAM, 8K Retina display, MagSafe-3 with teflon/titanium/carbon shielding, 3.5" floppy drive, 2 SCSI channels, an 8-track and auto-tuning AM radio.

It will probably be realistic and focused on iOS. For those of you who don't know what that is, it's NOT A %$@# MAC EVENT!!

And, yes, I'm drunk.

Kiss my ass!


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2016-03-12, 08:39

I don't think new headphones will be out until the iPhone 7. I really think this rumor about there not being a headphone jack is legit. They'll have Lightning Ear Pods and then make new Bluetooth headphones.

I'd be perfectly ok with that. I haven't plugged in headphones to any of my devices in at least a few years.
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2016-03-12, 09:51

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It will probably be realistic and focused on iOS. For those of you who don't know what that is, it's NOT A %$@# MAC EVENT!!
That's what that rumours say. I still hold out some hope that there will be processor updates for laptops. No design changes or new models, but the introduction of Skylake. I don't have a lot of hope on that, but some.

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2016-03-12, 11:28

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Isn't this where the fanboys demand a transformer/hybrid MacBook/iPad Pro?

I've gotten to the point where I hate these events. Not because Apple doesn't deliver, but because expectations have become unrealistic, out of touch, obtuse and selfish.
Hybrid MacbookPad, sign me up! Oh wait, no. Microshaft already makes that, and it sucks. Of course the day it happens you will praise Apple for their greatness and wisdom (thus I will remind you to eat your words, bookmarks thread).

Yeah, selfish me, wanting Apple to do something other than refurbish last years model with a new name and a CPU bump. It's fine, just not really worth the hype that some put into these events. Now if Apple where make something interesting it could be exiting and worth watching, unlike the Apple Watch crap.

Seriously though, the events are boring because they just are. It's not even the tech, Cooke and crew are just pain painful to watch/listen to, but that's another subject altogether.

The good news is that refurbished iPad Air 2s should come down in price, good time to grab one!
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2016-03-12, 12:01

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… just not really worth the hype that some put into these events…
Notice that it isn't Apple putting in the hype? It's us.

We get ourselves all excited for something we know isn't coming, then bitch when it doesn't.

I'm hyped for nothing. I know Apple is going to introduce a new iPhone model and an updated iPad and maybe a little Watch BS. We don't sell iPhones; we don't sell the Watch; and we barely sell iPads anymore, so little of this has any affect whatsoever on my bottom line. Since I also don't use (or have any use for) any of the above mentioned things, this event bares little more use to me than to satisfy my curiosity.

However, I care deeply about the Mac and am patiently waiting for the next, new Shiny™ to boost sales. I'm confident that no Macs are coming on the 21st, nor any other time between now and WWDC. So, deal with it!

As for HybridMacTablet thing? Yes, Apple will eventually get around to that, but it won't be what you think. Apple is not just going to slap a touchscreen on a laptop running OS X. There is a reason why that 3rd party thing you mention sucks, and it has more to do with OS X than the hardware. There is also a reason that Apple didn't put OS X as we knew it into the iPhone or iPad. OS X (like Windows) was designed for little mouse pointers, not Fumblefingers McThumbs. I can't even imagine the number of user complaints we'll see if OS X becomes touch-based in its current form. Can you imagine trying to tap all those MS Word buttons, menus etc. on a 10" screen?

Will I praise Apple and eat my words? Probably. At least, until I get to know the product, at which point I might not have much good to say. The evidence in this is the iPad, which I praised when it first came out (and still praise in certain use cases). I bought one, and then got a Mini. However, as a writer I have learned that I have absolutely no use for them. Terrible. So, yeah. What you said.

BUT!

If it's just a touch-screen Mac running OS X the way it currently sits, you'll hear nothing good from me. That would be stupid.

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2016-03-12, 12:27

I haven't felt "hyped" for an Apple event since the 3rd gen iPad was released, so I sure don't get my hopes up for these events anymore. Haven't had high hopes for new Apple products since then either...

I don't recall saying anything about Mac or demanding updates anywhere in this thread... so yeah. Frankly the way Apple is going I'm losing interest in the Mac platform more and more with each generation anyway. But yeah this thread is about iPad's and the Apple Swatch.

I am intersted to see what Apple does with the iPad, because my gen 3 iPad is getting rather old and the battery isn't worth replacing IMO. I don't use an iPad for work, it's for reading books, browsing and watching videos for me. I am just waiting for force touch, because I like it for app switching vs pounding the home button. What I don't care for is the lightning headphones. Apple headphones kind of suck, in terms of comfort and wearability while doing any kind of physical activity.
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2016-03-12, 13:57

I don't think Lightning headphones are headed our way before the fall (where by "headed our way", I am referencing the elimination of the mini jack, which is long over due, IMO).

I think that you can head down to your local Apple Store/reseller and have a good look at the iPad Pro. Reduce that screen size, and you'll know what Apple is going to show us in a week-ish. I don't think any rocket science is necessary for this one.

Same with iPhone 6se (or whatever they call it). Have a good look at the 6s, scale it down, and BAM!

Apple Watch 2 (if they talk about that) is the same. Take the current Watch and shave off a few mili-things and that's it. Big whoop!

If anyone is getting excited that Apple is gonna go all iThing Revolution™ at this show, they are mistaken. Other than caving in and adding ports for all sorts of "I need to connect my 18TB RAID 5 to my iPad" cravings, I don't think you're going to see anything you can't already see at the local dealer. There will just be smaller versions of those things.

Personally, if I were a member of the media, there's no way I'd fork over the travel bucks for this event.



On that note, there is a possibility in the software side of things that may be revealed within the invite. Apple has long added those fancy little codes in the invitation message, and this year the word "loop" appears. I have heard many people talking about this as a reference to One Infinite Loop since the event is being held at the Apple campus. Could the word "loop" involve something more … interesting? Are there not "loops" in programs like Aperture and Lightroom? Are there not "loops" in Garageband?

I'm probably reading too much into it, considering Apple hasn't really had a good code in a while. But, still …

Something worth arguing about (or not).

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2016-03-12, 16:06

Well it took 18 months, but apparently Apple - like me - doesn't believe the 4.7" and 5.5" iPhones are the "only way forward" (as I was told here back in 2014, upon lamenting them dropping the 4" model and only offering the two larger sizes). Granted, we're not 100% sure what the specs of this thing will be (and exactly how/where it will sit in the lineup), but I've certainly got my fingers crossed that it's basically an iPhone 6/6s in a 4" version...you know, like they should've been offering all along, since fall of 2014.

I'd like to think that Apple won't, in a display of complete jaw-dropping stupidity/point-missing, arbitrarily tie screen size to "importance" or "worth", and somehow neuter/lame-up this upcoming 4" (instead of doing the right, sensible thing and simply offering a 4" 6s with no apologies). But considering some of their other decisions in recent years, I realize that's a tall order (and I might be pissing up a rope; they very well could be looking to put 1-2 year-old specs/hardware in it, I really don't know).

But they would sell the hell out of a 4" 6s and I'll never be convinced otherwise (so save your breath).

I could never get right with the 6s, so after having jumped the gun a bit in the fall (and sold my beloved three-year-old iPhone 5, thinking I was on the cusp of getting a 6s before changing my mind and realizing I didn't want that new size), I've been using my nephew's old yellow 5c for the past 5-6 months. An A9-based 4" iPhone will be what it takes to free myself from this digital banana. So I hope I get my wish. But I'll believe it when I see it in 10 days.

But if they put out a 4" iNeuter with no compelling reason to step up, then I'll just hang onto this 5c for a while longer (I'm using an iMac from 2007, so I obviously don't jump on board every little thing they release "just because"...I'm really good at waiting, and only buying what I truly want and/or need at this point). But I'd love for them to take a break from disappointing/angering me, and just give me the iPhone I'd actually like to own/use. fingers crossed...

PS - I couldn't give less of a rip about anything else rumored for this event (iPads, watch stuff, etc.). I'd just like to have a snappy, modern iPhone again, after three-and-a-half years...in a size that I, and many others, would prefer. Period.

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2016-03-12, 18:26

I also really want the rumored 4" phone. My little Moto E is having a life problem after a year. I bought it and switched to Android because the price and size were attrctive and because I don't want the larger phones. If Apple can give me a 4" at something less than $600 I'll be thrilled.

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2016-03-13, 14:43

I'm going to hazard a guess and say that the new "smaller" iPhone is just going to be a iPhone 6 stuffed into a 4s or 5s phone body. I don't think Apple wants it to match the flag ship 6s and 6+s. Going forward the smaller model will be the "low cost" iPhone. Maybe $599.
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2016-03-15, 13:52

$599? I think that's too expensive. For another $50 you can get a 6s. Spread that over 24 month and it's not even noticeable. I was thinking $499 but that's probably wishful thinking. Personally I don't think there is a very big market for a small phone. It's definitely not as big as a lot of tech blogger types think. And the 5 always struck me as odd sized. Some may settle for it if the price is right I guess. I wish Apple would put a little time into redesigning the dimensions of their phones. Too much chin and forehead across the line. I love my 6s Plus but it just seems needlessly tall.
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2016-03-16, 01:09

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$599? I think that's too expensive. For another $50 you can get a 6s. Spread that over 24 month and it's not even noticeable. I was thinking $499 but that's probably wishful thinking. Personally I don't think there is a very big market for a small phone. It's definitely not as big as a lot of tech blogger types think. And the 5 always struck me as odd sized. Some may settle for it if the price is right I guess. I wish Apple would put a little time into redesigning the dimensions of their phones. Too much chin and forehead across the line. I love my 6s Plus but it just seems needlessly tall.
Smaller and cheaper "iPhone 6" is pretty attractive to me and also to all of my employees. Right now most of my staff is on a mixture of 4s/5/5s. The 6 has proven to be too big for most. Especially since it's a 2nd phone for some.


May be a small demographic, but I'm good for at least 18 of these new "iPhone SEs"
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2016-03-16, 10:16

Man, just yesterday I had a friend who bought a new Macbook and a Thunderbolt monitor, only to find out there is apparently NO WAY to connect the two Apple products.

That's right. Your new Apple monitor doesn't work with your new Apple computer. Derrrrrr.

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2016-03-16, 16:46

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Man, just yesterday I had a friend who bought a new Macbook and a Thunderbolt monitor, only to find out there is apparently NO WAY to connect the two Apple products.

That's right. Your new Apple monitor doesn't work with your new Apple computer. Derrrrrr.
Really? The TB monitor won't work with just a DP connection? That's lame.
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2016-03-16, 16:54

I know it's not hard evidence, but just talking amongst my circle of friends, family, etc., only a sliver of them are on an iPhone 6 or 6s (either size). The bulk, by far, have (purposely) stayed with their 5/5s/5c (or 4s, in a couple of cases) a bit longer than they expected or planned, simply because they, like me, never fully bought into the "bigger is automatically better for a phone" thing (they, like me, assumed the iPhone 6, while adding the two new larger sizes, would still keep the 4" in the mix to make for a really nice, well-rounded lineup; it kinda let the air out of us when it didn't go that way).

And we've all had plenty of time (18 months) to try them out in various ways, and many of us just don't like them. I don't give a shit what the sales figures, reviews, adoption rates, etc. are...I haven't bought one. And that's the only data/figure that matters to me.

I've let all of these folks know about Monday's event, and I know about 6-8 people who are set on go, ready to make a move.

Feels great to have an event I'm actually excited about/truly looking forward to. Been way too long!
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2016-03-17, 09:54

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Smaller and cheaper "iPhone 6" is pretty attractive to me and also to all of my employees. Right now most of my staff is on a mixture of 4s/5/5s. The 6 has proven to be too big for most. Especially since it's a 2nd phone for some.


May be a small demographic, but I'm good for at least 18 of these new "iPhone SEs"
You use an iPhone 6 as your personal device? Are you going to go back to this smaller phone? That's been rather uncommon in my travels. Can't wait to see the pricing on this new phone though.
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2016-03-17, 11:58

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Really? The TB monitor won't work with just a DP connection? That's lame.
The display does not have a Displayport connection. It's a Thunderbolt connection (for the hub on the back of the display).

Thunderbolt uses the Mini Displayport specification for connection and Displayport for video, while it uses PCIe for data. While a Thunderbolt connector looks like a Mini Displayport connector, they are not the same. TB on a Mac computer supports Displayport through an adapter; Thunderbolt cables do not work with Displayport connectors. In the case of the MacBook, this point is mute, since it uses USB-C, not Thunderbolt. Compatibility between the two is pretty clearly spelled out on the TB Display's tech page:

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Thunderbolt-enabled Mac computer, including MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Mac mini, Mac Pro and iMac. The Apple Thunderbolt Display is not compatible with MacBook (Retina, 12-inch, Early 2015).


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Man, just yesterday I had a friend who bought a new Macbook and a Thunderbolt monitor, only to find out there is apparently NO WAY to connect the two Apple products.

That's right. Your new Apple monitor doesn't work with your new Apple computer. Derrrrrr.
I assume your friend bought the stuff online? I know he doesn't live here in Boise, but had he walked into our shop, we would have made it clear the two are not compatible. However, if he did buy it in a shop, it's pretty clear the sales people have no idea what products they're selling. They should (naturally) return the display due to their oversight.

No offense, but either this is due to the friend's lack of research, or the salesperson's lack of knowledge (or both). That the Thunderbolt Display does not work with the MacBook has been known to us since day one.

Should it work? I don't know the answer to that, but I would hazard a guess the the MacBook's GPU couldn't comfortably handle that display. Also, without Thunderbolt, the hub on the back of the display would just be a bunch of holes collecting dust and spiders.

Anyway, he should take it back.

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2016-03-17, 12:22

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No offense, but either this is due to the friend's lack of research, or the salesperson's lack of knowledge (or both). That the Thunderbolt Display does not work with the MacBook has been known to us since day one.

Should it work? I don't know the answer to that, but I would hazard a guess the the MacBook's GPU couldn't comfortably handle that display. Also, without Thunderbolt, the hub on the back of the display would just be a bunch of holes collecting dust and spiders.

Anyway, he should take it back.
Yeah, she walked into an Apple store, and walked out with that combo at their suggestion.

When she couldn't get it to work, she brought the two to a Genius Bar, where they didn't know the two products couldn't work together until they'd wasted about 45 min. of her time.

I think she's returning the computer actually, but this is exactly the kind of bullshit I knew would happen when Apple decided to go with a single stupid port on their new laptop.

I did see a supposedly active converter that's coming out in a month, which might allow the two products to work together, but really that's something Apple should have put together before releasing the two products.

(like they produced TB cables when they released their products with TB ports, since there were almost no quality TB cable producers initially.)

I'd be much more hyped about a new Apple event if I felt like they had their shit together with what they've already worked on.

Its seems like it's been a few years now though of lackluster announcements at best, or straight up steps backwards. (Looking at you iWork).

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2016-03-17, 13:01

Yes, iWork sucks!

The display issue falls squarely on a lack of training within the Apple Store, though, not a compatibility thing. The sales people should know what the hell they're doing. Hell, I don't work for Apple, but I still have to undergo annual certification testing. In other words, I have to know what I'm selling.

That Apple doesn't … that's a huge problem!

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2016-03-17, 14:03

Yeah, I would expect that sort of thing if she'd bought it at Best Buy or (if they were still around) CompUSA (places where you just expect/assume general Apple cluelessness). But to have such a thing happen at an actual Apple Store (them recommending a set up that isn't going to work) is pretty weird.

I've not been to an Apple Store in three-and-a-half years, but I've never encountered any less-than-knowledgeable employees/help (especially back when I used to haunt them regularly, a decade ago).

Guess they're easing up on that end of operations too. Are they just hiring anyone off the street now, including folks with no Apple background/knowledge/interest/passion, and skimping on the training?

It isn't like these are obscure, old devices purchased second-hand via Craigslist. Someone in the chain of the various Apple Store employees she interacted with should've looked at the two items, assumed they were being bought to use together and spoke up.
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The display does not have a Displayport connection. It's a Thunderbolt connection (for the hub on the back of the display).

Thunderbolt uses the Mini Displayport specification for connection and Displayport for video, while it uses PCIe for data.
Yeah, that's why I'm surprised... I figured the monitor portion would only use the DP part, and that the lack of TB would only affect the other functionality.

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In the case of the MacBook, this point is mute, since it uses USB-C, not Thunderbolt.
It also supports "Native DisplayPort 1.2 video output".

I mean if it doesn't work then it doesn't work. I'm just surprised Apple designed it that way.

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2016-03-18, 10:22

What's everyone's honest, gut and/or reasoned analysis about how/where this 4" iPhone will sit in the lineup? It's all getting a bit convoluted if you look at their current offerings (6s and a year-old 6, along with their Plus variants), and then that smaller 5s (from 2013, no less...to my knowledge, it never got any sort of spec bump since then, correct?)

So where, exactly, is this new 4" going to fit in? Work the scenario based on two likely processors (A8 and A9).

Does Apple go the "it's a 4-inch 6s" route? Or the "4-inch 6?" Or do they position it more as an A8-based 5s?

Do they treat the 5" as a "feature" or an implied drawback/up-sell spur?

I can't imagine them going through the effort to create a new design 4" and just use it to replace the old-style 5s body at the low-end. So if you believe that, then you have to assume that the 6s and/or 6 are going to get a 4" version as well. And if one gets it, why not the other? Which leads me to my scenario a few paragraphs below...

Just not really sure where this winds up sitting without possibly looking weird or "crammed in" somehow.

If I get my wish and it's a full-blown 6s (A9, etc.) in a 4" body, is it going to cost $100 less than the 4.7" 6s? Or will Apple suddenly view the 4" as a "premium" or some desirable thing (again), and inexplicably price it the same as the 6s ($649).

Or will they hobble it in some way, which Apple is fond of doing, and try to position it in some middle-ground between the 6s and the year-old 6 models (even though it's smaller than both)?

My ideal scenario (just so everyone gets what they want, and the grid makes some sort of sense and is easily understood):

This new model adopts the body styling of the 6/6s line (I think that's a given, aside from maybe a couple of small tweaks as needed...sleep button placement may go back on top, etc.), but the 4" model would actually come in three variants(!), occupying a space in all the tiers of the current lineup. Specifically...

- We get a full-blown, no apologies 6s in a 4" body, priced at $549 ($100 less than the 4.7" 6s)

- They also add the 4" to the last year's 6 line, with the A8, older camera, no 3D touch, etc. But a true iPhone 6 in every way, just in 4" form, and priced accordingly

- Replace that entry-level 5s with this new design model for the lowest price option (but also packing 5s-era guts, camera...A7, etc.).

Basically, spec/performance-wise, everything stays like it is within the three distinct year/performance lines (A9, A8 and A7). All they're doing is adding a 4" model to the 6s and 6 lineups, and replacing the entry-level old-style 5s body with the new, rounded one (if keeping the A7-based 5s type phone around is required for them to hit that $0-49 tier). Now all iPhones look the same, and every customer has (at least in the 6-based lineup) three size choices among two performance levels. And folks on a real budget get a nice, newly-designed entry-level model (albeit with older internals and just the 4" screen size, but if all you're doing is surfing and texting, there are gazillion of 5s iPhones in the world, still performing very well).

But I think most people would be making purchases from that 6s and 6 field, each with three good sizes offered.

a) You choose a performance level (latest A9 and all it entails, or last year's A8)
b) You choose a screen size (4", 4.7" or 5.5")
c) You choose a capacity
d) You choose a color

That almost seems to be the only way to do it and keep some sort of understandable, reasonable matrix...you can get the latest and greatest 6s in three sizes, or you can save some money and get last year's 6 models/performance for $100 less. Or get the A7-based, new design for the $0-49 they're currently selling the 5s at.

But who the hell knows what would happen to all that come September and the iPhone 7/7Plus?

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2016-03-18, 10:59

It will not be called the "5" anything. 5 implies it is an old phone rehashed. Don't think they're going that route. I believe it will be called the 6-something. 6se has a nice ring. I could see Apple going all "Mini", too, as in 6 Mini, which sounds dumb, but could happen.

This phone will be a small-screen iPhone 6. A8, M8, Touch ID, 8mp camera. No Force Touch, and no camera specs from the 6s or 6s Plus (although it will carry the 6s badge, i.e. 6se). It will replace the 5s in the lineup, and may be $0 on contract in 16GB, and $49 on contract in 32GB.

There is a large market for the small screen size and Apple will sell bazillions of them.

That's my guess.

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2016-03-18, 14:34

Seems to be confirmed that it will just be called the iPhone SE.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...4-inch-iphone/

Also, seems that it will be modeled more after the iPhone 5.

http://9to5mac.com/2016/03/17/iphone...-megapixel-4k/

I have gotten so used to the larger phones at this point that this is not something that I'm even remotely interested in, but it'll be nice to see a smaller more modern iPhone.

No idea where this fits price wise, but it's going to be interesting.
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2016-03-18, 15:53

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Also, seems that it will be modeled more after the iPhone 5.

http://9to5mac.com/2016/03/17/iphone...-megapixel-4k/
You know what? That wouldn't bother me at all if the other stuff in the article (A9, etc.) was legit. I had an iPhone 5 for three-plus years and absolutely loved it, so that's fine if it's a 6s "in guts only'. If that was my option come Monday, then a silver 4" iPhone SE(?) is what I'd be glad to upgrade to (and rid myself of this banana-colored 5c).

I just don't see how it can be higher-powered/spec'd than the previous-generation iPhone 6 and still sell $100 below them. Is Apple putting that much importance/allure on screen size? Do customers have that much of a hard-on for larger phones?

Because even if I wasn't as big on the 4" model as I am, if it came down to an A8-based 4.7" model for $549 or an A9-based 4" model for $449 (and in the old 5s case), I'd still go for the 4" in a heartbeat. Not even a contest. Simply in terms of better performance with these ever-demanding iOS and third-party apps. I really couldn't care less about .7" more screen (and the 5.5" Plus was never a factor, or in the running, from day one).

Just not sure how they present it in a way that people go for, unless they tweak the grid/lineup in some ways we've not predicted or imagined. For the normal, life-having schmo who doesn't follow all this idiocy, they're not going to know what phone to buy after Monday (unless some things get tweaked/streamlined a bit).

Also, technical question: if this new 4" model came with the A9, does that automatically mean it'll have 2GB RAM? Is 2GB of RAM a stock component of that particular processor? Or is it the sort of thing Apple could offer in a 1GB variant (and why would they)?
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