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2004-08-10, 13:04

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Have you guys seen the new ultra portable ipod mini speakers yet?

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL....8.1.4.0.0.1.0
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2004-08-10, 15:16

I am sorry that this thread did get quag'd. Back on topic, DMB made a good point to me on ichat. If they do give the 12" powerbook the 1.5 Ghz G4 the ibooks can't go faster because the G4 chip for the pbooks haven't either. Sure they can boost the top end 14" ibook to 1.33 Ghz but, to keep enough difference between the ibooks, they would have to cripple the low end at 1 Ghz. So because the possibility of not fitting the lcs in the 12" they kill the 12" pbook and put G5's in the rest of the pbook line. Then later in a year they bring back the 12" with the smaller lcs in it.

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2004-08-10, 15:20

Seems possible to me, but it all depends on this magical cooling system that must be developed. In my opinion it might be a little too much to hope for, that they will manage to develop such a system so soon after the introduction of the full sized LCS. But thats just an idea.

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2004-08-10, 15:29

I don't see what's wrong with a 1.2 GHz low end iBook and a 1.33 GHz high end. As long as the PowerBooks are at 1.5 or 1.6 GHz for the low end, that's fine.

What's LCS?
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2004-08-10, 15:31

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What's LCS?
Liquid Cooling System

That is also true, seems perfectly possible ratio of power between the two lines. I guess it all depends on what kind of muscle the next generation of Powerbooks will debut with.

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2004-08-10, 15:34

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I don't see what's wrong with a 1.2 GHz low end iBook and a 1.33 GHz high end. As long as the PowerBooks are at 1.5 or 1.6 GHz for the low end, that's fine.

What's LCS?
It might damage sales from the high end. People might just say," I can save $200 and have only 133 Mhz difference." I think you need at least a 200 Mhz difference to well spaced apart.

PS: LCS mean Liguid Cooling System

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2004-08-10, 15:44

well ibm already uses liquid cooling in their laptops so it may happen.

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2004-08-10, 15:55

Eh, who needs LCS when you can just make your laptops 2.5 inches thick?



Dell, I'm looking in your direction

Not only that, but it's 9 friggin pounds. Who wants to lug around a 9 pound monster? Not I...

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2004-08-10, 15:55

Well, yes. We've seen that article here before, but that isn't exactly a liquid cooling system. Its more a head dissipation system using a metal with low specific heat index.

..from my understanding. I could be off base tho, please clear me up if so.

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2004-08-10, 16:30

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It might damage sales from the high end. People might just say," I can save $200 and have only 133 Mhz difference." I think you need at least a 200 Mhz difference to well spaced apart.

PS: LCS mean Liguid Cooling System
Why would it be a problem with the iBooks though? It doesn't seem to be hurting sales of 1.5 GHz PowerBooks, even though they're only clocked 167 MHz higher than their 1.33 GHz bretheren.

Or go 1.2/1.4 for iBooks, and 1.6/1.8 for PowerBooks. I think that would be fine.

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2004-08-10, 16:40

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Why would it be a problem with the iBooks though? It doesn't seem to be hurting sales of 1.5 GHz PowerBooks, even though they're only clocked 167 MHz higher than their 1.33 GHz bretheren.

Or go 1.2/1.4 for iBooks, and 1.6/1.8 for PowerBooks. I think that would be fine.

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I was talking about the 1.2 Ghz ibook and a 1.33 Ghz ibook. Nothing to due with the pbook.
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2004-08-10, 16:43

Oh, I know. What I'm saying is I don't think it would be a huge problem to have only a 133 MHz gap, because there would be more standard features on the high end model, and because it's not hurting PowerBook sales to have a mere 167 MHz gap. Then again, the older G4 iBooks had just 67 MHz separating the middle from the top model, and I suppose the top end ones didn't sell well, which is why they moved to the new strategy of just two speeds instead of three.
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2004-08-10, 17:21

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Oh, I know. What I'm saying is I don't think it would be a huge problem to have only a 133 MHz gap, because there would be more standard features on the high end model, and because it's not hurting PowerBook sales to have a mere 167 MHz gap. Then again, the older G4 iBooks had just 67 MHz separating the middle from the top model, and I suppose the top end ones didn't sell well, which is why they moved to the new strategy of just two speeds instead of three.
i believe that was the reason especially since the 933 was signifacantly cheaer than the 1ghz
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2004-08-12, 06:34

I saw it also - but considering the G5 processor - a notebook would have to be huge...
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2004-08-12, 14:33

Seems likely to me that the mobile G5 will (at least initially) be available only in the 17" PB. This is a great opportunity to differentiate the model line a little bit, and (in usual Apple style), make those who want the latest and fastest, go straight to the top end of the lineup.
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2004-08-12, 14:35

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Seems likely to me that the mobile G5 will (at least initially) be available only in the 17" PB. This is a great opportunity to differentiate the model line a little bit, and (in usual Apple style), make those who want the latest and fastest, go straight to the top end of the lineup.
Then explain the second Pbook number. I think the 12" and low end 15" will stay at a 1.5 Ghz G4 and the top end 15" and 17" pbook will go G5.

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2004-08-13, 02:27

And LCS needs liquid... PC LCSs are large - very large (half the size of the PC)... You have to cool the liquid, not only transport it through the copper plate on the processor and the GPU. So... LCS seems impossible to me in a notebook.

iBook G4 1.2 768Mb Ram
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