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Matsu
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2018-11-29, 08:50

I think if I stick to Play1s, it's really not that pricey considering what you get and ease of set-up. I like that they appear to be platform agnostic, there are supports in the system for Airplay2, and Amazon and Google assistants if we should decide to add those. I do have a sub/sat receiver system from our old place that could go into the one separate room on the first floor that lends itself to HT use. But We're sticking to furnishing the large multi-use space for family time/TV/lounging/everything - and that doesn't really need HT. I might get a Beam, just to anchor the TV and because it plays a little deeper than the Play1s... And maybe, a Connect module for the HT room, but I'm just as likely to just sell the sub/sats and receiver or move them to my garage based photo-studio. There's another old PL2 receiver from my parents home that might eventually serve as the back deck sound system. And it's nice that there's an option to connect it to sonos.

Which brings me to the HomePods. Is it possible that they can simply be airplay speakers connected to the same network as the Sonos?

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2018-12-01, 10:13

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I think if I stick to Play1s, it's really not that pricey considering what you get and ease of set-up. I like that they appear to be platform agnostic, there are supports in the system for Airplay2, and Amazon and Google assistants if we should decide to add those. I do have a sub/sat receiver system from our old place that could go into the one separate room on the first floor that lends itself to HT use. But We're sticking to furnishing the large multi-use space for family time/TV/lounging/everything - and that doesn't really need HT. I might get a Beam, just to anchor the TV and because it plays a little deeper than the Play1s... And maybe, a Connect module for the HT room, but I'm just as likely to just sell the sub/sats and receiver or move them to my garage based photo-studio. There's another old PL2 receiver from my parents home that might eventually serve as the back deck sound system. And it's nice that there's an option to connect it to sonos.

Which brings me to the HomePods. Is it possible that they can simply be airplay speakers connected to the same network as the Sonos?
Make sure you get the One and not the Play:One. The Play:One is NOT AirPlay 2 compatible.

You can add a HomePod to a Sonos loop via AirPlay 2. https://www.the-ambient.com/how-to/a...aker-group-351

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Matsu
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2018-12-30, 07:29

So, I'm starting small. I picked up a two pack of white Sonos Ones at the local electronics shop. To me it's sonically not as good as a number of budget components that could be had for the same price, but all of them take up way more space.* More on sound quality in a moment... Set up is dead simple, the app is stable and intuitive, and Airplay 2 support is great for playing system sounds out of our iPads - my wife likes to show of talent show auditions on youtube. Platform agnosticism is nice too, but I haven't enabled any of the voice features yet, so I have no idea how this will do with Siri/Alexa, nor am I certain I will ever enable these features, since I'm reticent to more have devices listening to me...

They are surprising able to fill my aforementioned space with sound, though in my view they can sound a little harsh above 60-75% volume and treble detail doesn't keep up at loud volumes, though bass is impressive especially considering it's size. The key to sound reproduction with the Ones is to add more of them and throughout the space and tune them rather than try to play less units louder. Four speakers playing half as loud with a little tweak to the bass and treble levels, is probably a better bet. They should add a mid tone adjustment to the software as well. No doubt the larger speakers will play better. I have to think about whether it makes more sense to add another pair or to anchor them with something like a single strategically placed Play:5 and/or move them over to surround duties paired with a Beam TV. Adding all that stuff adds cost in a hurry - but it also fills the whole house with sound very quickly. In fact I grossly underestimated their ability to fill a space. I don't think more then 4 or 5 pieces are needed to evenly distribute sound across the whole first floor.

My favourite feature though, the real standout, is the music service support. I love having access to hundreds of radio stations from around the world, free. It makes me think that the real future of radio is not a question of terrestrial vs satellite, but rather terrestrial IP radio - someone needs to put this on a car stereo device with a low cost data plan - some sort of constant streamed 128-320kpbs use would only add up to a few MB/day - something that should be serviceable for $5-10/month. But I digress, I've been enjoying this more than playing our rather large library of music - been listening to radio stations from my Dad's home town for the last few days. Awesome. I've only set up a few of the services that don't require registration and it's very nice, will set up a few more later. The app searches them all seamlessly.

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Matsu
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2018-12-31, 12:52

Update. I left me running at moderate high volume for a few hours while I did some work around the place and they seem to improve with a little break-in time and better files.

I also tried out a HomePod in a very crowded Apple store and was impressed by its abilities to overcome the chaos of boxing week shoppers. Purely as an audio device I think it’s better than a single Sonos One, maybe even a pair of them, but it lacks some of the other qualities that make the Sonos so livable.

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turtle
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2019-01-01, 13:47

I really am glad you're putting this stuff in here Matsu! I've been contemplating either a Sonos or HomePod but just can't seem to make the choice. I'm far from an audiophile though I do get all my music lossless digital. Seems like the Sonos is the direction I really do need to head down.

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2019-01-07, 09:45

There seems to be a really annoying bug in the latest Sonos software. When you play a playlist from your device, all the songs cut off part way through and skip to the next song. Supposedly all the Sonos were stable before the airplay2 software updates. There are some workarounds from what I read that involve not allowing your device to lock screen/sleep, but this is not a good solution. Wish I had spotted this earlier. Hope they fix it soon.
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2019-01-07, 11:11

I think I would mostly play from a Mac that is always on. Does the bug effect them with the screen saver on?
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2019-01-16, 09:13

So I have to point this out in here because it seems to be the best place though it could be it's own thread.

Verizon is going to offer free Apple Music with it's two top tier Unlimited plans.. This means I won't have to pay for it finally and will give it a try. I have no plans to make the cost come out of my pocket directly but since the Homepod kinda needs it at least it's a new option for those with Verizon and one of the two plans that it's included with.

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