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Given the huge performance improvements of the M1, I'm not even sure Apple needs that midrange.
Other than BTO upgrades on the MacBook, what even fits into that midrange with Apple Silicon? Ditch the weird low-end 13" MacBook Pro. It's never made sense in the lineup and has led to a lot of deeply confusing differences between two machines both known as the 13" MacBook Pro (eg the 2 port vs 4 port 13", different keyboards, some other things I can't remember). If they truly think that model is needed, just make it the MacBook. But frankly, why not just make things dead simple: Looking for a Mac laptop for normal personal use? MacBook Air. Need the horsepower for Photoshop, video/sound editing, modeling, whatever, because that's how you make money? Pick a 13 or 15 (or 14 or 16) Pro and upgrade the hard drive if you want. This can be a flow chart with all of 3 boxes on it. |
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I'd be okay with that.
That's why I said what I did above...until these new redesigned models get unveiled, it's so hard to know what approach they'll take. At that point, there may be no real need for a $1,299-1,499 notebook in the case we're accustomed to. The Air, 10-12 months from now, could be even more capable than it already is, and nicely cover that ground for just about any user who truly didn't require true "pro"-level performance/capability. If there's just two models of MacBook in the entire lineup, then yeah...I think one should just be "MacBook" and the other "MacBook Pro". At that point, "Air" really won't mean much...do you want a MacBook or a MacBook Pro? Here's the difference... Whatever Apple is cooking up to put in those models must be a step up than what they've just released, otherwise they would've migrated the entire MacBook Pro lineup (the two higher-end 13" and the 16" as well). That they didn't makes me think they've got something pretty impressive planned for later this year, truly setting that line apart from the Air or anything in that sub-$1,500 space. And that's great! |
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The latest reports say that the new MacBoobs will once more ship with SD card slots.
Please please please... ... |
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Is that the single standard for those things? If it comes with those, will that accommodate everyone's digital cameras?
Is that a faster way to transfer/offload camera pics to a computer? Forgive a dumb question...I don't own a digital camera or have ever used a SD card. |
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That said, some CFExpress cards can fit in an SD slot so Apple could choose to support both (type A) but AFAIK only Sony uses this format. Nikon and Canon use type B, which is larger. |
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I see.
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I don't care about transporting camera footage, but at least a modern SD card slot will allow for some system expansion after purchase.
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I'll be honest, the SD card has replaced the USB thumbdrive around our house. Could be just because we have a ton of SD cards from my wife's photography habit, but we all have USB / SD dongles or readers of some sort.
But the pricing is now low enough that you could see this being a reasonable 'second disk' for a lot of people. Crazy. https://www.amazon.com/sd-card/ |
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Here are some fun facts about modern 1 TB SD cards from Chris Espinosa, Apple employee #8:
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...and with that knowledge on hand, just think - despite how cool, fast and convenient things are now - what will be commonplace and "eh, no big deal..." in just 15-20 years from now.
We'll look back on 2020-2021 as "the old days" and chuckle about todays SSD speeds, stock RAM amounts ("How did we even get anything done?!"), what ports/connections we couldn't live without, display resolutions, pricing, etc. 20 years ago, I thought 100MB Zip drives/disks were the end-all/be-all of storage and transportation. "Guys, I believe this is plenty...this is the future!" I can go to Office Depot right now and get a little orange or green Lexar 32GB thumb drive for about $5-6. And in another 20 years, that's going to look as dated and old-timey as a Zip disk does today. "Hey, I see they've got those 8TB MicroDotz™ on sale for $7.99 this week...". |
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16 years ago I could see a scenario where 32GB of RAM would be useful. But, 15 years from now I cannot see a scenario where 32TB will be.
There is going to come a point where RAM is no longer even a consideration. Storage speeds will be fast enough that storage and RAM will become synonymous. I think we are within 5-10 years of that being the case. I mean, the amount of information required to fill 32TB is mind boggling, and I just cannot get my head wrapped around any conceivable average-ordinary-every-day customer-use case that will require anything even close. I deal with customer use cases on a daily basis, and rarely is 8GB of RAM not enough for absolutely everything the average user does all day long, every day, and has been the case for several years now. 16GB of RAM gives the average user enough RAM for the next 10 years minimum! When I first started doing this 16 years ago, 1GB of RAM was a dream come true. Now, 8GB of RAM is plenty*. That is a factor of 8 over 16 years. If that ratio holds true, then the next 16 years will carry us to 64GB of RAM as the "gold standard" for average users. Seriously, we are quickly reaching a point where enough RAM is enough RAM. Oh, and there wouldn't even be a need for all this storage if the average user didn't keep every single picture they ever took with their phone! But, holy cow I see libraries approaching 50,000 plus photos and they're mostly duplicate, blurry photos of the exact same thing but where the photographer wriggled over three inches for a "better shot", etc., etc., etc. Sheesh! The next big innovations are going to be in access speeds, AR, on-device ML, and battery life. Average-use RAM and storage sizes are going to begin to level off. Creative pro's will most certainly need more, but the average-use cases are plateauing. And I predict there will be an episode of Hoarders focused specifically on photo libraries. "I need all 836 pictures of Aunt Persnippity, because what happens if I lose one of them?" * I am not talking about professional creatives here, so don't get all hot and snobby about it. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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162k photos, 1.2TB So. Um. |
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I was promised holographic communications.
And my Mac is going to be my doctor soon, so my daily body scans and bloodwork analysis files are probably going to take up a bunch of space. |
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For example, I personally wouldn't have envisioned, when the first iPhone launched: "one day, its SoC will be so fast, the camera will be significantly enhanced through on-device processing: to figure out, at 60fps, which pixels are likely faces and therefore should probably be in focus; to figure out the right white balance; to do a form of HDR; etc.". It wasn't remotely feasible with the weird Samsung chip it had. With the A14, it's solidly there, and they added the "oh, we can write a DNG-based RAW format that also includes metadata of what our signal processing would've done" cherry on top, which they only can because the RAM is (barely) enough on the Pro models. All this processing power hasn't made word processing a thousand times better, but it has made it a fair bit better: collaborative editing has become mass-market in the past few years, and works mostly OK now. Very hard to do in the 90s. It used to be that you had to very deliberately think about which settings to apply to the Photoshop filter, because you'd have to wait minutes. Now, it can just do it live. What if one of the things for VR to actually work (sorry, Oculus, this ain't quite it yet) is another leap in performance? Quote:
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The iPhone started at 128 MiB. It is now at 4-6 GiB. I bet there's already features that won't be able to ship until it goes to 8 GiB and beyond. The iPad can only afford to have so much less RAM than a Mac because its UI is constrained in multitasking capabilities. Quote:
But also, that's the wrong approach. The right approach is for the Photos app to figure this out (in a similar vein to how Aperture did, a decade ago), merge those photos into 'stacks', suggest a pick, and then eventually ask "hey, should I even bother with the bad ones?". But even then, some people are hoarders. Don't make them feel bad about it! Quote:
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I can fully understand tons of pics of loved ones, pets, places, moments, etc. It was a bit more of a process, 15-20+ years ago to take, and organize, pics vs. now. I certainly regret not having as many photos of some people (and pets) from 20+ years ago that are no longer in my life.
It's those with hundreds, if not thousands, of photos of themselves on their phones that blow my mind. How narcissistic and self-absorbed do some people want to be?! Cringe... And when Apple, via their yearly hardware/software advances and improvements, plays in that sandbox to facilitate new levels of vanity and attention-whoredom, I die a little inside. "Tim, these chicks don't need any further assistance and tools in the Look-At-Me-Me-Me-and-Validate-My-Existence-and-Worth™ sweepstakes. Knock it off and redirect Apple's resources toward more noble pursuits...adopting LGBTQ polar bears or something, I don't know. Something a bit more on the 'worthwhile' side of things?" Yeah, maybe people were always like this (I don't believe that at all), but simply lacked the means to broadcast their vanity and narcissism to all corners of the world, within seconds. But, thanks to the smartphone/mobile broadband/social media era, that problem has finally been solved! Yay. That Warhol guy had it partly right..."in the future, everyone will be an attention/compliment-chasing wannabe pinup model for 15 years." Close enough. |
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I just got a new 16" MBP at work. 8 cores, 64GB RAM, fully tricked out.
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I didn't even know 64GB RAM was an option!
Wow, that's a serious machine. For giggles, I just spec'd out a fully-loaded 16" MacBook Pro (i9, 64GB RAM, 8TB SSD, 8GB graphics) for the tidy sum of $6,699. It adds up pretty quick, going Cadillac! I think that might've been the first time I've ever done so with that particular model (because I knew it was something I'd never own; I usually do this kind of thing with the iMac, Air and 13" MacBook Pro). I didn't know those graphics and storage options were available either. I'm really clueless on that 16" model. |
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A ransomware group has supposedly released information about the logic board for the upcoming 14 and 16 inch MacBook Pros and the ports sound VERY similar to what I have on my Late October 2014 MBP, minus 2 thunderbolt ports.
https://9to5mac.com/2021/04/21/2021-...ro-ports-leak/ ... |
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We are back to square geometry again?
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I love those drawings. I can look at stuff like that (and blueprints/floorpans, product cutaways, etc.) for hours. Such precision and detail. That's the kind of stuff I often get paid to draw, so the interest is legit/longstanding.
I just noticed, in the past day, the new look of the iMac's stand/foot (how it points out the back a bit as well). |
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That's okay too. With the exception of 1-2, most were quite goofy and out-to-lunch.
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