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rasmits · 2005-08-23, 18:28

I just read this article on AI:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1243

Then, I configured an iChat Jabber account to connect to talk.google.com, using my gmail name and password, and it connected. I don't have anyone on my buddy list right now to try it out, but everything seems to be working.

MBHockey · 2005-08-23, 18:42

yeah this was reported on the adium forums a while ago. Pretty cool, eh?

rasmits · 2005-08-23, 18:44

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Originally Posted by MBHockey

yeah this was reported on the adium forums a while ago. Pretty cool, eh?

Very. I wonder what they're planning. I hope it's more then just a Jabber server.

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 20:37

I've hooked it up, but I also don't have anybody on my contact list, Its about time Google came out with a chat service, they'll trash Microsoft Messenger & Yahoo Messenger...rasmits, have you played around with it a bit more? do you have contacts etc.?

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 21:16

Google Talk has "officially" launched:

Google Talk

Quote:

Google will today launch its long-awaited instant messaging and internet telephony service Google Talk, throwing down the gauntlet to rivals such as AOL, Yahoo! and Microsoft's MSN.

The Battle for the internet shall soon begin...

onlyafterdark · 2005-08-23, 21:24

Where do I sign up?

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 21:36

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Originally Posted by onlyafterdark

Where do I sign up?

Do you already have Gmail?

onlyafterdark · 2005-08-23, 21:40

Doesnt everybody?

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 21:44

You just gotta go into ichat, set up a Jabber account with your Gmail details, the server is talk.google.com I also got a message saying something about the password security, if you click continue, vela, your on Google Talk, all your contacts from your Gmail account should be there.

onlyafterdark · 2005-08-23, 21:47

Ah, talk.google.com. That was my problem.

Thanks for the info jmahe19.

edit: Now I just need some contacts.

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 21:51

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Originally Posted by onlyafterdark

Now I just need some contacts.

Me too, I have 1 contact, however there at school for another 3 hours, so I cant talk to anybody

onlyafterdark · 2005-08-23, 21:58

Well, all I can say is let me be the first to welcome our new Google overlords....

I hope they intertwine this with Gmail's 2gigs of storage.

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 21:59

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Originally Posted by onlyafterdark

Well, all I can say is let me be the first to welcome our new Google overlords....

All Hail Google!!!

Batman · 2005-08-23, 22:03

Beware of Googlezon!

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 22:05

You Watched it to?

The only thing I didn't like was there was no mention of Apple...

rasmits · 2005-08-23, 22:15

I just got this message in iChat:

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Originally Posted by gmail.com

The broken link has been fixed. Thanks for being our first users!

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 22:18

Yea, I got it to, the actual Google Talk software is Windows only I believe (for the moment) perhaps it's something to do with the software?

rasmits · 2005-08-23, 22:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmahe19

Yea, I got it to, the actual Google Talk software is Windows only I believe (for the moment) perhaps it's something to do with the software?

Yeah. I also noticed that talk.google.com now works. I assumed that's what it meant.

HezMah19 · 2005-08-23, 23:18

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Because Google Talk requires a Gmail username and password, if you're not inviting someone at their Gmail address, we will also include an invitation to open a Gmail account.

So...Does anybody have an idea on how us Mac users can invite people, I've only had Gmail for 3 weeks and haven't been able to invite people...Is there another way?

onlyafterdark · 2005-08-24, 00:04

As far as I know, the invite system is the only way until Gmail passes beta.

DMBand0026 · 2005-08-24, 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmahe19

So...Does anybody have an idea on how us Mac users can invite people, I've only had Gmail for 3 weeks and haven't been able to invite people...Is there another way?

You have to have gmail invites, I think I have about 50 right now so if you know someone who wants one PM me and I'll hook them up.

rasmits · 2005-08-24, 04:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMBand0026

You have to have gmail invites, I think I have about 50 right now so if you know someone who wants one PM me and I'll hook them up.

Well, I've been using it in iChat for a while, and audio chat worked fine for me, even though the website said it would only work on the official Windows client, which is odd.

I think it's nice, but not nearly enough to lure people from YIM/AIM/MSN yet. People have grown used to bloated IM software with hundreds of useless features, so Google needs to come out with something very "Googleish", which I haven't seen yet. But, this IS only a beta...

usurp · 2005-08-24, 04:50

yeah i also think so far this is googles worst idea. its going to be very difficult to convince my 50+ contacts to move to gtalk. and they have to convince their contacts to move also. this is going to be impossible specially when 90% of my contacts still use hotmail.

rasmits · 2005-08-24, 05:01

Bad idea? No. Difficult? Yes.

I actually think it's a very good idea, if we could have a widespread Instant Messenger based on open standards. I'm sick of Yahoo and MSN treating Mac users like second class citizens, and if Google is as cross-platform with this as they have been in the past, then it can only be a good thing.

For one thing, they need to hurry and open Gmail to the public. Second, they need to find a way to use Google Talk as a free VoiP Computer to Phone client, which I think they plan on doing. Third, they need to make it look nice.

This really isn't so far fetched from their business model. Who are Google's number 1 competitors in the internet search market? MSN? Yahoo? Same goes with email.

The difference is in the standards. Gmail uses POP, Gtalk uses Jabber, and in the end, everyone benefits.

HezMah19 · 2005-08-24, 06:08

Just a thought, does this mean were going to see a bunch of G apps? Gmail, Gtalk...

Batman · 2005-08-24, 07:59

I just checked it out. It works great, and the audio quality is really good.

Batman · 2005-08-24, 08:10

And now Gmail is semi open to the public. If you have a cell phone, you can get an invite.

Edit: Oh yeah, it is also US only.

Franz Josef · 2005-08-24, 12:43

It looks like a very function-poor IM service - no doubt they will add to it over time.
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050824-5234.html

onlyafterdark · 2005-08-24, 12:50

Ya I was disappointed when I read that article too. But at least there is potential for a good IM.

Batman · 2005-08-24, 13:25

The review doesn't do it justice. The real purpose of Google Talk is to be an audio chat client. Seriously, I was talking to someone in California and it sounded like they were in the same room as me. Google Talk is not intended to be a powerfull chat client. However, I would like a conference call featrue.

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rasmits rams it Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Seattle	2005-08-23, 18:28 I just read this article on AI: http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1243 Then, I configured an iChat Jabber account to connect to talk.google.com, using my gmail name and password, and it connected. I don't have anyone on my buddy list right now to try it out, but everything seems to be working.
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MBHockey skates=grafs Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York	2005-08-23, 18:42 yeah this was reported on the adium forums a while ago. Pretty cool, eh?
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HezMah19 Formerly "jmahe19" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia	2005-08-23, 20:37 I've hooked it up, but I also don't have anybody on my contact list, Its about time Google came out with a chat service, they'll trash Microsoft Messenger & Yahoo Messenger...rasmits, have you played around with it a bit more? do you have contacts etc.? jm.
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onlyafterdark Sucker for shiny objects Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, ON	2005-08-23, 21:24 Where do I sign up?
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onlyafterdark Sucker for shiny objects Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, ON	2005-08-23, 21:40 Doesnt everybody?
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HezMah19 Formerly "jmahe19" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia	2005-08-23, 21:44 You just gotta go into ichat, set up a Jabber account with your Gmail details, the server is talk.google.com I also got a message saying something about the password security, if you click continue, vela, your on Google Talk, all your contacts from your Gmail account should be there. jm.
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onlyafterdark Sucker for shiny objects Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, ON	2005-08-23, 21:47 Ah, talk.google.com. That was my problem. Thanks for the info jmahe19. edit: Now I just need some contacts. Last edited by onlyafterdark : 2005-08-23 at 21:49.
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onlyafterdark Sucker for shiny objects Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, ON	2005-08-23, 21:58 Well, all I can say is let me be the first to welcome our new Google overlords.... I hope they intertwine this with Gmail's 2gigs of storage.
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Batman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa	2005-08-23, 22:03 Beware of Googlezon! Last edited by Batman : 2005-08-23 at 22:04.
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HezMah19 Formerly "jmahe19" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia	2005-08-23, 22:18 Yea, I got it to, the actual Google Talk software is Windows only I believe (for the moment) perhaps it's something to do with the software?
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onlyafterdark Sucker for shiny objects Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, ON	2005-08-24, 00:04 As far as I know, the invite system is the only way until Gmail passes beta.
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HezMah19 Formerly "jmahe19" Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Australia	2005-08-24, 06:08 Just a thought, does this mean were going to see a bunch of G apps? Gmail, Gtalk...
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Batman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa	2005-08-24, 07:59 I just checked it out. It works great, and the audio quality is really good.
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Batman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa	2005-08-24, 08:10 And now Gmail is semi open to the public. If you have a cell phone, you can get an invite. Edit: Oh yeah, it is also US only.
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Franz Josef Passing by Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, Europe	2005-08-24, 12:43 It looks like a very function-poor IM service - no doubt they will add to it over time. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20050824-5234.html
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onlyafterdark Sucker for shiny objects Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Kitchener, ON	2005-08-24, 12:50 Ya I was disappointed when I read that article too. But at least there is potential for a good IM.
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Batman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Iowa	2005-08-24, 13:25 The review doesn't do it justice. The real purpose of Google Talk is to be an audio chat client. Seriously, I was talking to someone in California and it sounded like they were in the same room as me. Google Talk is not intended to be a powerfull chat client. However, I would like a conference call featrue. Sometimes ... things that are expensive ... are worse.
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