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But some of that other stuff seems kind of weird, like they mixed some blindingly obvious stuff in with their weird wish list. But nothing on that list is unpossible, I suppose. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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Wait, wait, wait…what about this:
What if Apple ships the 15" MacBook Pro with a 16GB Flash drive for the system, a 500GB drive in the standard drive bay, and the option to add a second 2.5" SATA drive in the optical bay. And the standard drive could be swapped for an SSD, and the optical bay would be filled with an SSD. That would be three SSD drives. Holy whoppers, Batman! - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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The HDD, which could be replaced with a big SSD, just like everything else, and The optical drive, which...could be replaced with a SSD only? That doesn't make much sense. Why not a second hard drive? And you're right, there's a big size difference. The only way that rumor makes sense is if there is no "HDD bay" and all you get is the 16GB system drive and either an optical drive or a proper SSD. But I can't see that happening, because A) the 16GB system drive doesn't take up much space and B) a 16GB-only notebook would just be crazy, especially since the 13" apparently doesn't have then optical swap option (swaptical? swaption?). Maybe the rumored was confused, and thought "SuperDrive" referred to the HDD? I'm all for giving people who don't need an optical more options, but the way it's described (only the 15" and 17", only SSD) doesn't make much sense to me. But I guess we'll see. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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Three quick thoughts I have:
Sounds like a worthy update, if it pans out as expected... User formally known as Sh0eWax Last edited by Maciej : 2011-02-22 at 20:42. |
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The 17" 1920*1200 panel is still higher than the 1680*1050 panel, so I don't think it will. I think Apple is just tidying up their options matrix — 13", 15", 17", 900 lines, 1050 lines, 1200 lines. Elegant. They won't have to worry about supplying three different 13" panels to their three 13" notebooks, or people wanting an anti-glare version of the low-resolution 15" panel, or whatever. Plus, I think Apple would like to have the option of replacing both the 15" and 17" models with a 1920*1080 16:9 display with the next full redesign or whatever.
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Robo: It's a comedy staple that Nazis have "vays ov mekking you talk"!!!
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Needs bluray, wtf?
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French site has photos of new "Thunderbolt" port!!!
This photo shows a metal body that looks way fake, at least on my iPhone. Cool?! ;D ... |
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Hmmm. Somebody said that their "photo" of the new port looks like a Display Port.... Hmmm
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Well, it's supposedly backwards-compatible with miniDisplayPort. I'm not sure I buy that, though if true, that'd be neat (hopefully, daisy-chaining is possible?).
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Apple's never used Intel's official processor logos before — they've always preferred to use their own, simpler logos. And I'm not sure they'd use the technical-ish abbreviation "I/O" in such a prominent position in their features column. But MacRumors thinks it's true. And there's apparently now multiple shots of the port and spec sheet floating around, so...
The resolution is really disappointing, if true. I'm not sure I like the name "Thunderbolt." Three syllables? Plus, I'm pretty sure that lightning bolt symbol already means like a hundred things already, most of them not very positive... and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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Not to mention that Verizon's first 4G phone is the HTC Thunderbolt, said to be launching the exact same day.
I don't know. It's looking like none of the rumors (reduced weight, SSD boot drive, higher resolutions) are going to pan out except for Light Peak. That new port better be pretty damn special. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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Personally, I still don't buy the LightPeak thing for MBP. I know Intel have their event the same day but it still feels like BS to me.
Of course, if there is little else to wow people with for this new update then maybe they need to bring this in quickly. I would have thought it more suited to a Mac Pro introduction. The LightPeak connector will be what they try to sell people on with the new machines. And yet still, everyone seems to be caught up in the fuss over this but are there actually any peripherals available? |
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What's so disappointing about the resolution? What's important particularly for Apple's sealed boxes (basically everything except the Mac Pro) is that some form of next gen I/O is present and installed. It would be better if these also had USB3, but if Intel is going to push Lightpeak and it gets full Microsoft Windows support, then it's basically set as a standard.
Hopefully, Apple hasn't done anything too proprietary to the implementation. I'm not sure about carrying display port on the same plug. Might turn into a bit of kludge if you're trying to hook up a monitor and some other Lightpeak peripheral. Probably be OK with a new generation of monitors that carry a thru-port/breakout of some kind. Might not be so good for existing displays. ......................................... |
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The 13" MacBook Air has had a 1440*900 display standard since last October, but the 13" MacBook Pro soldiers on with a 1280*800 display even on new models introduced in late February?
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It makes no sense to me that the Air's resolution is higher than the same-sized Pro's.
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I wonder what will come of USB3. I use an 8GB memory card. This gets me 385 12MP RAW files. Consumer DSLR's now span 14-18MP, and we'll have 20-40MP over the next couple of years, and video, and we'll be using 16, 32, 64 and greater. That's a lot of time to sit there and wait for a file transfer... I had FW400 and only USB1.1 on my 12" powerbook. All the cheap peripherals ended up coming in USB2, even Apple's own iPod. That sucked. Of course, back then, Intel/Windows/Microsoft drove USB2. The situation seems a little different with Intel, but what does Redmond intend to do. They sometimes like pushing a different standard seemingly just because, ie. HD-DVD...
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Screw the resolution. Why haven't they put a floppy drive back on the damn thing?!?
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USB = three syllables
As is "Ethernet" and "Gigabit"...and since they're almost always used together, that's six syllables. Thunderbolt is fine. The lightning icon is weird, as noted earlier, as it's usually seem on high voltage equipment and most people associate it with being killed-to-death or something. That alone might account for any slower adoption rates. "I'd like to hook all this stuff up, but I don't want to get zapped...". I can think of a couple of instances where the lightning bolt symbol is kinda cool and doesn't freak anyone out: Okay...the jury is still out on that second one. And that picture above that Drew linked to...I realize it could be the camera flash and extreme close-up, but Apple hasn't decided to go with bassboat metalflake on their new notebooks, have they? I had a guitar like that once, years ago. But I'm not sure it would translate to a piece of sleek, high-tech gear. |
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"Gigabit" and "Thunderbolt" both have three syllables, true, but I'm guessing you can say "Gigabit" faster than "Thunderbolt," right? The "Th," "nd," and "lt" all serve to slow the speaker down. "Gigabit" has no such sounds, and is short and snappy in comparison. "Light Peak" was an evocative and percussive name — those hard "p" and "k" sounds are the stuff branding dreams are made of — but I get that it might have been a bit esoteric for a consumer-facing product. But even if Apple/Intel wanted something more traditional, something like "LightSpeed" would have been roughly a zillion times better than "Thunderbolt." LightSpeed port. LightSpeed 100. The only nice thing to say about Thunderbolt is that it has no descenders, which makes it look nice, in print. But how often are we going to see it in print? It has an icon, which is problematic for other reasons. And it'll probably be reduced to an abbreviation most of the time, like even the shorter FireWire was. And what will that abbreviation be? TB? It's just not a very good name. /pointless nerdery and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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I was just going to say, in the same way that everyone likes to shorten/snazzy up long names or words, I'm sure Thunderbolt will eventually be said (at least among the geek/tech community) as "T-bolt" or something. Just as the titanium PowerBook G4 became TiBook about six minutes after its introduction.
If Apple wanted to be clever they could create a commercial for this new thing featuring Clint Eastwood and Jeff Bridges. I'll let folks stew on that one for a bit... |
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