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For one generation of the iMac (G4) they seemed to be on that path. Now they gone away from that. Even their newly designed keyboard is not very ergonomically designed (as nice as it looks).
Recently, Jobs spoke about Apple's environmentally friendly efforts. Might they one day make ergonomics the focus? Or is this simply a niche feature that the general masses would not be interested in. For instance, as odd as this sounds, would we ever see a slightly angled keyboard on a MacBook Pro? |
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Really? I think their new keyboard is much more ergonomic than any of their past keyboards. Their past two keyboard designs, especially, looked like repetitive stress injuries waiting to happen. They were just so high, my hands would start cramping just looking at them.
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Yeah, they certainly are much better than the previous model, but are still "un-naturally" angled. I must commend Microsoft on some of their keyboards which are quite comfortable to use.
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At my last job, we were sent to two days of ergonomics training. At that training, they told us that Microsoft's Natural keyboards have poor ergonomics, and that the only reason they're comfortable for some users is because they have otherwise poorly designed work stations. They said the best keyboards were straight and as flat on the desk as possible, which would seem to indicate that Apple's new flat keyboard is very ergonomic.
They also said that Apple's mice, like the Mighty Mouse, have very poor ergonomics because they encourage the user to move the mouse with their wrist and fingers, rather than using your arm. The Logitech MX700 was used as the example of a mouse with good ergonomics, though they never saw fit to buy me one at work (I have one at home). In the end, we found a number of problems with the way our work areas were set up, but my employer never did anything about it. |
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I also use the MacAlly IceKey which has great feedback and low scissor keys. Apple's new keyboard is nice, but too flat and squishy lacking the tactile feedback that I like. |
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How can moving your whole arm around be more ergonomic than just moving your wrist and fingers? I have always found the other way around to be more comfortable. That's why I liked the hockey puck mouse, because you could move it around using just moving your fingers I don't get how a straight keyboard can be good design either... Well what do I know? =) |
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Split keyboards are a godsend for the RI problems of some users. I would question the intelligence and/or experience of any ergonomics consultant that claims otherwise. But most important of all, don't believe all encompassing proclamations about ergonomics. Just as with prescription meds, taking the right medicine can be the lesser of two evils. A drug that helps one person may hurt another. The same is true for ergonomics. |
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I think that Microsoft's ergonomic keyboards are very well built. I felt so lazy typing on one because you don't have to reach as far to get to certain keys and the way your wrist lies on the pad makes it even better. For gaming though, I always use straight keyboards. Right now I'm using Logitech's G11.
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Yeah, Microsoft actually makes good peripherals.
The new Apple keyboard is ok, but actually not great for lots of typing. Looks nice, though, and definitely a step up from the old one. The Mighty Mouse, though, is one of the biggest pieces of feces I've ever had the displeasure to use. I replaced it with a $3 optical mouse from MicroCenter that I haven't used because it's so bad, and it was still a marked improvement from the Mighty Mouse. |
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