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Messiahtosh
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2004-08-31, 04:33

[4:41 AM] We are seeing a video for the new iMac now. Apple is comparing it to the iPod, the way the music player sits in the Dock. Also, the video says "From the creator of the iPod," showing that Apple is trying to leverage the success of the music player. Jonathan Ive says it is "quiet and utterly serene" in the video. - posted by Bryan

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video of jonathan ive and the imac g5

4:38 AM] US$1299 - 17" 256 MB RAM, Combo Drive, 80 GB drive, 64 MB video card. This compares to US$1799 for the old starting iMac.

US$1499 - 17", with 1.8 GHz.

US$1899 - 20" display (1680 x 1050), 2.2" thick, 1.8 GHz G5, 256 MB RAM, 160 GB drive, SuperDrive, and same 674 MB video card.

They will begin shipping in mid-September!
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20 Inch iMac G5

$1299 US

[4:37 AM] You can unscrew three screws, and the entire back comes off. The crowd loves it!


The G5 module, when looking at the back, is on the right side. There are three fans in the unit, and it is "quiet as a whisper." - posted by Bryan


[4:35 AM] SuperDrive. 1.8 GHz G5. 600 MHz frontside bus. 400 MHz DDR RAM, up to 2 GB. Serial ATA hard drives, AGP 8X graphic slots. The speakers are mounted on the bottom, so they reflect off the desk, up to the user. The keyboard will slide underneath the display when you are not using it.

There are three 5 USB (3 2.0, 2 1.1), two FireWire, a modem slot, Ethernet (10/100 Base-T), audio-in, audio-out, both headphone and optical), power button on the bottom. - posted by Bryan

[4:34 AM] "Everyone is ging to be asking "where does the computer go?"

All of the connectors are on the left side, all in a row. Again, the crowd is going wild. - posted by Bryan


[4:33 AM] It's white in color, and the crowd is going wild. It has a grey Apple logo on front. Everyhting fits together right behind the display. - posted by Bryan


[4:32 AM] It looks like just a Cinema Display with a DVD slot loader on right side towards the top. Aluminum foot. It's the world's thinest desktop computer, at less than 2" thick. - posted by Bryan

11:08:29
looks like one of the new screens

11:08:48
still not showing it

11:08:48
iMac G5

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7.5 million imacs sold to date...we love Aio

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imac

"We are reviewing some 9,000 recent UNHCR referrals from Syria. We are receiving roughly a thousand new ones each month, and we expect admissions from Syria to surge in 2015 and beyond." - Anne C. Richard, Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration

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2004-08-31, 04:35

Go to bed! LOL
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Messiahtosh
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2004-08-31, 04:44

Looks like a Rev B machine, if there ever was one.
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2004-08-31, 04:47

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2004-08-31, 04:49

www.apple.com

New G5 imac
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2004-08-31, 04:50

aaah crap its ugly
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Messiahtosh
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2004-08-31, 04:54

It is amazing.

For the price I paid for my 15'' PowerBook, I could get a top of the line iMac, with 1 GB or RAM, bluetooth, airport extreme, 250 GB HD, and a 20'' wide screen LCD, all 300 MHz faster (and a G5), and a hugely faster FSB (600 MHz).

I might have to eBay my PB.

"We are reviewing some 9,000 recent UNHCR referrals from Syria. We are receiving roughly a thousand new ones each month, and we expect admissions from Syria to surge in 2015 and beyond." - Anne C. Richard, Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration
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2004-08-31, 04:57

I'm not enthused by white computers but I like the compactness of this iMac and I'm glad they bumped the step up 17" to 1.8Ghz.
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2004-08-31, 05:01

The iMac is no longer a bimbo, but it's no longer a looker.

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2004-08-31, 05:05

I can't believe they still expect us to use AppleWorks 6 with a 2004, flatscreen G5 iMac.
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2004-08-31, 05:06

Okay, before I return to bed for another two hours, here are my honest first impressions (all of this could change tomorrow, the more I delve into it and view it with fresh, "next day" eyes):

1. It's unattractive
2. It looks like 400 unimaginitive mock-ups I've seen where the Cinema Display was used as a jumping-off point. Just doesn't seem to be Apple's style to raid their own closet...I truly expect(ed) more from Apple.
3. Nowhere near as "huggable" as the jellybean, and nowhere near as visually striking as the sunflower iMac G4. From the front, it looks exactly like an eMac stuck on a popsicle stick. WTF?
4. All that talk, two years ago about "glomming the guts onto the back of the display" and "horizontally mounted drives"...what happened? That's all this thing IS!
5. I'm glad they kept it white. Goes with the iPod and keeps it firmly in the mind of "okay, this is how 'regular guy' machine".
6. The specs are nice, and the price drops (17" for $1299 and so forth) are great! If I gave a damn about desktops anymore, yeah...I'd certainly get this over any tower/display combination, hands down.

But overall, I'm not blown away. It looks like someone's Photoshop-tweaked mock-up (stick a slot on the side, some ports on it and call it done).

Just seems to say "take the easy way cop out" to me.

Again, let me sleep on it and view it all tomorrow and get more into the specs. But at 6:05am, September 31, those are my honest, heartfelt initial first reactions. Wanted them on record.



If advertised and pushed properly (playing up that iPod angle), now that the holidays are approaching, this could be interesting...

We'll see.
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2004-08-31, 05:09

My eyes are coming all over my keyboard.
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Paul
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2004-08-31, 05:13

I'd like to see one with an iSight
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2004-08-31, 05:17

Was the pricing before hand????

How much has been sliced of the price??

Personally I am indifferent as I like laptops
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2004-08-31, 05:18

The boy did good. Just waiting for the Apple Store to come back so I can order a 17" 1.8.
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psmith2.0
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2004-08-31, 05:22

Okay, I've looked at it some more. Nope, I was right...it's ugly.



That big chunk of white expanse below the display...it makes it look like Jay Leno. And totally takes away from the "widescreen" look. The Cinema Displays, 15" and 17" PowerBooks and the previous 17" and 20" iMac G4 all make you notice "hey, that's a cool widescreen...".

I realize they had to cram guts and speakers in there, but that big white ocean below the display just throws me off. If that were maybe half the depth, I might not think this way. As it is, it's all you see. And a big logo stuck there to help "sell it".



If I'd mocked something up with that much "dead space", you people would've torn me a new one!



Then, on the back, you have, for some reason, "iMac" in this tacky 148 pt. HUGE type. Where the hell did that come from? Why?



I'm much more impressed by what's under the hood this time around. Hell, I kinda have to be, because this is the first iMac that I'd consider "unattractive from every angle".



BUT, since PC people are used to that and didn't seem to be taken with the swoops, curves, etc., perhaps this will work in Apple's favor. Something plain, utilitarian and ugly has been the key all along, poor Ive just didn't realize it!

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2004-08-31, 05:25

I'd have to see one in the flesh.

I didn't like the last iMac until I saw it for real.

But my first impressions were hmm... well.. actually identicle to how I felt about the last iMac, but without the WOW it looks like some freaky alien type background thought going on...

So overall a bit of a let down.

But then I have a G5 and a 17" G4 so why would I worry.

My other half wants one though.

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2004-08-31, 05:25

im with pscates2.0 on this one.

They have the cram, but not the jam.

Sigh
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2004-08-31, 05:26

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Okay, I've looked at it some more. Nope, I was right...it's ugly.



That big chunk of white expanse below the display...it makes it look like Jay Leno. And totally takes away from the "widescreen" look. The Cinema Displays, 15" and 17" PowerBooks and the previous 17" and 20" iMac G4 all make you notice "hey, that's a cool widescreen...".


Would have to agree with that.. That was a real dissapointment... Really detracts from the 2" thin thing when it looks like it already has an extension on it's butt!

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2004-08-31, 05:34

DULL!!!!

PSCATES : Email your L-Mac design to Jonathan Ive. I've a feeling the news headlines tomorrow will then read "Famous Apple designer commits hari-kari after reading email".

How the hell could he have "designed" that? I've already posted on another forum that if you took off the Apple badge and replaced it with an LG then plced it on the shelves of your local electronics retailer, no-one would give it a second glance.

I know Apple like simple, but this is "Simple Extreme"!! No flair whatsoever.

The only (vaguely) good thing about the whole thing is the G5 processor. I cant believe Bluetooth & Airport Extreme are still build options only.

Rant Over.

PS: PSCATES - I'm serious: Email J. Ives!!
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2004-08-31, 05:34

The iMac has undergone major tansitions, from being overweight and large, to having the components under the screen (while taking up about the same desk space as the original), and now everything is in the screen and it is smaller yet more powerful than ever.

Remember, the cinema displays with this exact styling were probably supposed to be released in conjunction with this iMac back at the WWDC.

I love it, and if I had not bought a PowerBook I would have gotten this.

Amazing that a G5 is in that enclosure, and a 250 GB HD? Jesus.

BTW, pricing is absurdly good. Compare it to the PowerBooks. Ridiculously good value.

"We are reviewing some 9,000 recent UNHCR referrals from Syria. We are receiving roughly a thousand new ones each month, and we expect admissions from Syria to surge in 2015 and beyond." - Anne C. Richard, Assistant Secretary, Bureau of Population, Refugees, and Migration
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2004-08-31, 05:35

Been there ! new iMac G5 is really cool to look at. Seeing it you say to yourself : of course. how could it have been different. Apple designers are genious ones. Apple was first to get rid of the 3"5 floppy, then the first to bet on flat screen, then the first to get rid of the computer itself. Thanks ! Apart from the last 30 minutes of the keynote, nothing new, everything already seen and heard in the wwdc or iTunes Europe launch. I wish we could have had Steve on iChat av live
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2004-08-31, 05:40

Just noticed the iMac G5 is VESA swing-arm or wall mountable. How cool is that ?
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2004-08-31, 05:44

U - G - L - Y

This will be a flop for Apple. The price points are okay, I suppose
, but this is not a product that will catch on with the general public like the original iMac.

Give me the elegant sunflower iMac (and the original lucite cinema displays while you're at it) over this thing.

BTW, the lucite cinemas were SOOO cool. I snapped up one on eBay that I'd take any day over the new ones. I'm planning on getting a used sunflower G4 20" for <$1500 with these price points... so in a way I'm happy.
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2004-08-31, 05:47

i'm trying hard to like it. at least the 20-inch doesn't look much like jay leno as the 17-inch.
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2004-08-31, 05:52

I'm truly surprised by the negative comments! C'mon you guys! I think it's a STUNNING acheivement by Apple, and I believe that it will be a runaway success story! They won't be able to produce enough of these at first just like the iPods!

It wasn't that long ago when the original G5 PowerMacs came out, and look how far they have come along with downsizing everything! And isn't this the first truly upgradeable iMac? Can you imagine having the power of a G5 with no computer in sight? So cool that you don't need a big tower under your desk!

I'm VERY impressed! Far and away better than I imagined and I was not looking forward to everything glommed onto the back of the screen...but I think Apple has succeeded beautifully on this one...it will make a lot of comsumers wonder "where is the computer", and it packs enough wallop, innovation and value to propel it into super-stardom!
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2004-08-31, 05:56

I just placed my order but was turned down for an Apple Credit Account...
so I'm waiting .

$2499 plus tax

Code:
4-year AppleCare Protection Plan, iMac S1762Z/A Same bus.day 1 $185.00 $185.00 iMac 1.8GHz w/20" TFT Z096 3-4 weeks 1 $2,116.00 $2,116.00 SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW) 065-4705 512MB DDR400 SDRAM - 1 DIMM 065-4713 AirPort Extreme Card 065-4718 Bluetooth Module + Apple Wireless Keyboard & Mouse + Mac OS X - U.S. English 065-4721 Accessory kit 065-4979 Power Supply 065-5257 250GB Serial ATA drive 065-4720 iSight M8817LL/B 1-3 bus.days 1 $129.00 $129.00 .Mac Promotional Bundle B8747LL/A 1-3 bus.days 1 $69.95 $69.95
Anyone think it will be available in the Apple Stores anytime soon?

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2004-08-31, 05:58

It is sickly amazing, I would not call this a flop. You may not like the design, but calling it a flop is absurd, especially when it has those specs, at those prices.

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2004-08-31, 06:01

Barracuda,

Do you have any info that indicates it will be upgradeable, i.e. removable graphics card, number of empty memory slots, accessable, swappable HD?

I couldnt find anything about this on the Apple site
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2004-08-31, 06:04

Somebody found this sniffing around the UK store...

http://store.apple.com/Catalog/uk_in...c_20040831.jpg



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