Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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My Dad will be getting a new Mac mini soon (replacing his old 15" MacBook Pro...don't ask how old, let's just say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree ).
He does use Office (Word, mostly), so he'll certainly need a newer version than the old yellow box "home/student"(?) (on disc) version he has. I see where they've gone to the subscription model too, but I think I remember Ken saying that a standalone, one-time home-oriented version of Office is available as well for ~$150. What's the basic differences/run down? He doesn't use Outlook and he really doesn't use Excel either. Do they even sell Word as a separate product for those who just write? What's the best bet for someone like him (72, retired, likes to write, isn't all that concerned with layout/formatting as much as just basic word processing. If Word is only available as part of the Office suite, which take on that is the "best"? The ongoing subscription, or the "buy and once and just use it as long as possible"? Does the "one-time purchase" version get updates? For how long? Sorry, I know next-to-nothing about Office (been using the Apple version for well over a decade for any of those Office-y type tasks). |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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How did I not see that? I was all over Microsoft’s site last night (via phone). Thank you.
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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I hate sending anyone to Amazon, but here you go.
Buying direct from MS is more expensive, and they try really hard to corral you into 365. |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Yeah, that’s what I was after. It’s over $200 from Microsoft. For his needs, it should be fine.
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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One final question before I present all this to him later on this evening...
This one-time purchase version...what's the update situation on it? I figure, like the Adobe Creative Cloud stuff, doing the Office subscription thing ensures you've always got the latest 'n' greatest version(s) of the stuff you're paying for. If he gets this other version, will it receive security/bug/improvement point updates as well for some time? Is it seen as a "separate" thing altogether by Microsoft, where it gets its own updates specific to it for a couple of years, but, at some point, a whole new version will get released and either you buy that outright (or pay a small upgrade fee to movie up)? I just wasn't sure how this standalone version was supported, update/improvement-wise, as the months roll on. Off-topic (click to toggle):
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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There is no longer an "upgrade" path for MS Office. You have to buy any new version, unless you subscribe to 365. However, MS does provide security updates until they get sick of doing so. I think they still do updates for Office 2011.
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Okay. I'll make him aware of that.
If he doesn't opt for the one-time purchase version, I guess Office 365(?) is what he's looking at? Good grief, the entire planet has gone to subscriptions...software, TV, etc. Can I just go buy some McNuggets this afternoon, or do I have to pay Ronald $6.99/month for the privilege? |
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Dare I ask if he's open to just using Pages?
I ask because it really does depend on his uses but Pages is free. I wouldn't go as far as trying to get him to try OpenOffice or such simply due to polish. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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Pages is great if you don't "rely" on Word, whereby "rely" I mean, "Don't want to try anything new."
I use Pages. No use for that other bloated thing. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Oh, I fully get it. I've used Pages for well over a decade. I had Office X(?) on PowerBook G4 for about 27 minutes, way back in the early 2000's. Don't need it, never used it. Jumped on iWork.
For just writing, he probably could use Pages. That was on my little outline of stuff to tell him about. But maybe he loves Word, I don't know. I've gotten pretty good at Pages over the years. It's a lot of "discovery" (things seem tucked away/hidden). |
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He may also be interested in more office like open source projects like Libra Office. Best part is $0.
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Yeah, I wanna install it and forget it. I can't be fielding calls all day about this and that. Just put on what he's used to, has used for decades, etc.
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Arguably the biggest overhaul was Office 2011, when they added the Ribbon to the Mac version. Afterwards, there have been visual refreshes and certainly feature additions, but nothing quite as massive of a change — with the exception of Outlook, which has recently had a change so major that you can still switch to the old UI if you prefer (and because the new one doesn't yet have all features back). |
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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Well, Microsoft Word just ate a document that I spent several hours working on a few nights ago. I had really made some progress. Was really in the groove. It was a significant update to the document and now it's all gone. I have tried all the methods of finding temporary files and such, but it's just gone.
I saw this happen a few times previously on my Mac Mini, where I would catch the file suddenly being named something temporary, and saving in a temporary folder through NO direct action of my own. The software has been acting stable for the past six months so I thought that was behind me, but now I am walking away and will re-approach this document in a week or two when my anger has faded. ... |
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@kk@pennytucker.social
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I've really gotten away from using Word over the last 5-6 years. Nearly everything I do is on Google Docs now.
Having an always updated document, no matter what computer I'm using, it's such a game changer. I still get word docs assails, but I never go to start a document using Office. No more Twitter. It's Mastodon now. |
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My experience with having Word (in OneDrive/SharePoint) or Pages (in iCloud Drive) documents across multiple computers has been fine as of late, too.
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Lord of the Rant.
Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Word will always save if you use OneDrive with it. So you get 5GB free with any MS account so you could use it with Word and not have it lost in such cases again.
I try to avoid MS Office when I can though and generally use Apple's office apps. Louis L'Amour, “To make democracy work, we must be a nation of participants, not simply observers. One who does not vote has no right to complain.” Visit our archived Minecraft world! | Maybe someday I'll proof read, until then deal with it. |
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Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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Yep. I'm going to slide that switch.
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