Multi-touch Piñata
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Sorry if this was already discussed somewhere...
I innocently ordered batteries and a charger from www.ripvan100.com. I got the product, seems fine. But along with it was a religious pamphlet. B.S. about being saved and being a sinner and all the usual psycho bile. I was livid. I find that totally unacceptable for a company to do. My email to them: Quote:
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So if you loathe this kind of crap like I do, stay away from them. "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein |
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I shot the sherrif.
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Chicago
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I personally have no problem with this at all. In fact, I applaud it. That said, it should be noted that I'm a conservative and very religious guy. I think it's refreshing that someone actually has the balls to spread their message even though they know they'll lose business and offend people. Everyone is too PC nowadays. Sorry that you were offended by it, but that's how I feel. Come waste your time with me |
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Multi-touch Piñata
Join Date: May 2004
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Well, here's my followup, explaining why even a religious person/fellow Chistian should find it offensive.
See, it's simply his hypocrisy that is the worst part... Quote:
(Not that Shinto proselytizes) "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein Last edited by johnq : 2004-07-23 at 01:46. |
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Yarp
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Road Warrior
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indeed, that is pretty low. But can I ask, what's this site? and why do you get your batteries from there?
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EDIT: Heh, compare Reseller Ratings for GreenBatteries.com and RipVan100. Last edited by Eugene : 2004-07-23 at 05:55. |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Johnq, if this is the worst thing that happens to you, you're doing okay.
People like you and BR and others who absolutely freak out and lose their mind at the mere mention of religion or Christianity scare/irk me more than someone including a pamphlet in a package. What do you care? The fact you have to take time to write them and engage them in some pissing contest when all you had to do was throw the fucking thing away and not think twice about it says more about you than this company. IMO. Otherwise sane, rational grown men lose their minds over things. If I can put aside - and not even care - that Jobs is a Kerry supporter, then you should be able to buy some batteries from a place that inserted a pamphlet into your order. I'M the one with the bigger problem, but you don't see me freaking out, starting threads and pondering a switch to Dell. Lighten up. God loves you, I'm sure. |
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Multi-touch Piñata
Join Date: May 2004
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I'm totally calm thank you.
I simply want you to answer, what if, when you opened up your new PowerBook, Apple included a Koran, or an Atheist pamphlet stating how "evil" religion is? It doesn't matter what the "it" is. But that is safely in the realm of hypothetical for now, to actually make you be bothered. You only seem so tolerant just because it happens to "only" be Christianity. So, 2 elements to my argument, both stated calmly: 1. If he's truly honestly trying to spread the Gospel, then why not from the start? Why post-sale. 2. Would he tolerate people from another religion doing the same thing with his purchases? So I am not foaming at the mouth, nor am I specifically anti-Christian, I just think that professionalism has no room for religious promotion. - unless it is clearly indicated from the start. Anyway it was certainly a good laugh, and I do have it made as far as being sheltered from that stuff, being in Boston. It was a blast of nostalgia from my visits to the south/midwest. My only real regret is having crumpled it up and thrown it away so fast. Ah, Hell, here I come... "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein Last edited by johnq : 2004-07-23 at 08:52. |
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all this bickering over imaginary friends
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Mr. Vieira
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Location: Tennessee
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If it was an atheist pamphlet ragging on organized religion, I'd simply consider the source: godless Northern California left-leaning hippies. And mutter "typical..." and maybe insert some smart-ass comment concerning tofu, Ben & Jerry's or Tim Robbins. Seriously, I'd kinda be taken aback by the crass shitheadedness of it, but I'd probably just fling it and fire up the PowerBook (you know, the IMPORTANT things in life) and remind myself that "it takes all kinds". No harm, no foul. That would be about the extent. I wouldn't contact Apple, nor would I return the PowerBook. I can separate stuff. I can watch an Alec Baldwin or Susan Sarandon movie and enjoy it a lot, even though I might not dig their politics. And I think Linda Ronstadt is a great singer. As is Ms. Streisand. Quote:
I'm the kinda guy that will most likely always opt for the middle route (ignore and toss it away if it's of no interest, realizing it's done me no harm, hasn't ruined my day, has no bearing on my enjoyment and usage of their batteries, etc.) Quote:
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Freedom OF, not freedom FROM... I have to put up with enough shit I find offensive or that goes against my beliefs or views, everytime I turn around. You filter it out and choose your battles, I guess. That's what I do. You kinda have to, really. If I got torqued up at everything I encountered in the course of a week that truly offended me and my sensibilities, I'd never get through the day or get anything done! Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2004-07-23 at 09:36. |
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Multi-touch Piñata
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What if your Apple PowerBook had a Kerry bumper-sticker included with it? yeah right... Anyway don't see my argument as anti-Christian. I could care less. If the entire south were Hindu or atheists, I'd still not want tracts for their personal beliefs in my products, unless it was clear upfront. I mean if someone buys a canvas bag from PETA, chances are they're getting an animal-rights pamphlet along with it. But if it were "Bill Smith, Inc." and the bag has a PETA animal-rights pamphlet along with it, it's totally different. One is voluntary association, the other is involuntary. Don't switch to another battery supplier just because this one is Christian. Switch because they are Christian only when they safely have your money. It's all nice and secular and professional upfront, but post-sales, you get the religio-babble. It's the sneakiness that is the problem. "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein Last edited by johnq : 2004-07-23 at 09:41. |
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Mr. Vieira
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Or give it to one of my bubbleheaded friends who'd stick it on their Element or Volvo... |
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Multi-touch Piñata
Join Date: May 2004
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LOL, no I'm pretty sure you'd also start a WTF thread on 'nova and have a good rant about it, and even send a WTF to Apple...
That's all I did. I too had a chuckle and crumpled up the piece of paper and "went on with my life", don't worry. "Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding." - Albert Einstein |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Yeah, maybe. At MOST, I'd post a mini-rant here (but trying to be more humorous than angry about it because this kind of thing just doesn't get me angry as much as bemused). I'm realistic enough to know that contacting Apple about it wouldn't amount to anything.
"Um, yes, Mr. Scates...I'll be sure to pass all this on to Mr. Jobs. Yeah. Uh, huh. Oh, I know. Yes sir. Good point. Yeah. Mm-mmm. Huh. Yeah. Okay, you have a good day, sir." *CLICK* "What an asshole...probably a Rush listener..." "I used a Dell before I used a Mac...but they're both fine machines. Umm, oh yeah: Halliburton! BOO!" |
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Selfish Heathen
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Get a room, ya' lovebirds!!
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Mr. Vieira
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Hey, that's a cool smiley! Give me a kiss...and one for applenut too.
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The same thing happened to me. I don't remember the company, but it was some plastics company that I bought empty dvd cases from. I thought it was strange, but just threw it in the trash.
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25 chars of wasted space.
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Mr. Vieira
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No, he's really not. Needlessly hateful and mean to everyone? Yeah. Funny? Not especially...
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Selfish Heathen
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Check your Private Messages, ast3r3x.
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