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Forgive me if this has already been mentioned, but I don't understand why the imac g5 is the same price as the intel imac, when the intel imac is supposed to be 2 x faster.
From a business standpoint, any business that is clearing out a discontinued item normally drops the price on that item to move it quicker. Is it possible that Apple will be selling their whole Intel Line along side their whole power pc line for a while at least? I also think that if apple kept the imac name, and the new powerbook is macbook pro, ibook becomes macbook then thru logical deduction the new powermac will be called Pro Mac. With the release of the Pro universal Final Cut Suite in March, I think Apple will try and get the Pro Mac out in April for their 30th anniversary, because the Pro Mac will be the flagship computer. From a business standpoint, if people knew last year that a macbook pro was coming out in Feb, most of them would have waited, instead of buying a powerbook. The rumour is that Pro Macs are coming in the fall, and alot of people can't wait 9 months. However if people knew it was in April, then most could wait 3 months and Apple would lose sales. |
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The reason most people expect the PowerMac successor not to arrive until summer or fall is Intel CPUs. The most likely candidates for the CPU are the Conroe and Woodcrest series, which won't come out until some time this summer.
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There are two things that won't happen.
1) The PowerMac will not go down to 32 bit. 2) They will not lose the "quad" configuration. With these two postulates Apple has no choice but to wait till Conroe comes out towards the end of the year. Intel does not have the chips that we need at this time. There are more pressing needs at this time - like a 17'' MacBook Pro for one. |
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The whole 'business standpoint' doesn't nececarily run with the transition, the reason for duality in products and pricing is that many businesses, developers and educational institutions are using software that will not run natively on the new macs, or will not even run under rosetta. e.g: Most of the 'pro' apps, there are also many users who will not want to re-purchase their software just for the new intel macs.
Also - there are users out there that may run entire networks of the same system, and wish to keep the same product model when making additions to their network as far as possible, as it means easier maintance e.g: stock of identical spare parts in a school IT department, or just 1 restoration drive image. |
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Not really. The Core chip is such a huge improvement over the G4 that even the slowness of Rosetta is compensated for by sheer computational power. However, the new iMac shows that the same is not true of the G5. |
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Rosetta doesn't let you run everything, and certainly not a lot of Pro Apps either. Apple's entire Pro line doesn't run, if I'm not mistaken.
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When exactly are Merom, Conroe and Woodcrest supposed to be available? I've heard everything from this summer to early 2007. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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You'd have the Mac mini on Merom, the mid-range Mac and iMac on Conroe, and the Power Mac (and, if it's still around, the Xserve) on Woodcrest. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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Here is an interesting read, Tom's Hardware is a decent site and how much salt is needed with this article is up for debate, but there are some points that ring an interesting ear, epespecially about the multi-core future with Intel.
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I always thought that Apple was waiting for Merom, Conroe, and Woodcrest and then they decided to use Yonah which has always been described as an interim chip, a short term item. Mile 1 |
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Yonah is an interim chip - but if you look at Apple's Intel Macs, they're hardly "next-generation" designs, either.
I don't know enough about the Xeon to know whether or not Apple would consider putting it in the "Mac Pro." But I do know that there's no way in hell they're putting a P4 in there. I still think the Mac Pro will get Woodcrest, eventually. Maybe it'll use a Xeon in the meantime. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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A Xeon is a P4. Don't be fooled by Intel's marketing strategy. |
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As it is, Apple will come up with some number out of their ass saying how dual core intel is faster than 4 G5 cores. |
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I think we'll be waiting until Woodcrest. I really do. "Mac Pro" + new Cinema Displays at end of 2006, alongside Leopard. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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