[Quagmire]

Didn't see a thread about it yet. Safari 4 is in software update.

[Moogs]

I just downloaded it from their web site. Uber-snappeh, tabs now correctly oriented.

[Quagmire]

Yeah, I just got back from installing it. It is a bit different then the Beta I was running.

[hmurchison]

sweet

I must admit I'm eager to go back to the old way of handling tabs. The vertical space savings weren't enough.

[Kickaha]

Wow, this is truly Teh Snappie(tm).

[Partial]

Really? It's really sluggish on my hackintosh. Like... really sluggish. I wonder why? The second version of the beta fricking flew and never beach balled.

Update: Not sure what was going on at first, but after browsing to 5 pages or so the speed has greatly increased. Odd, since all of the pages I've visited were previously cached anyway. I agree it is teh $|\|@pp13 (snappie) !

[nikstar101]

Yeah it is super fast on my Mac Pro. I thought we would have to wait till Snow Leopard till it came out

[Kickaha]

Originally Posted by Partial Really? It's really sluggish on my hackintosh. Like... really sluggish. I wonder why? The second version of the beta fricking flew and never beach balled. Update: Not sure what was going on at first, but after browsing to 5 pages or so the speed has greatly increased. Odd, since all of the pages I've visited were previously cached anyway. I agree it is teh $|\|@pp13 (snappie) !

Did you restart as per the installer's suggestion? I did, and found that it took a while to bring up the first couple of pages as it loaded in the appropriate handler code. Once it did that - it took off.

Basically, same as any other post-reboot launch of Safari 3.

[Partial]

Originally Posted by Kickaha Did you restart as per the installer's suggestion? I did, and found that it took a while to bring up the first couple of pages as it loaded in the appropriate handler code. Once it did that - it took off. Basically, same as any other post-reboot launch of Safari 3.

I did restart. I'm thinking that is probably the case, because its flying now, seems faster than the betas even. Really like the new look. The beta was a more efficient use of space, but I wasn't crazy about it.

[Moogs]

Hackintosh. You mean Psystar? Maybe you should start using a real Mac and you won't have these problems (though seems to be working now).

[psmith2.0]

Would it be bad form to upgrade my friend's iMac and MacBook to the new Safari while I'm here? Or should I wait for her to return Thursday night and give the "okay"?

What's the protocol on this sort of thing? I've already done those recent iLife and other updates, but those aren't really things you notice in a day-to-day way. Safari 4 looks a bit different from 3. Think she'd mind? If it's fast and stable, I'm guessing not...

I've got free reign of her house, kitchen, car, etc. I guess that would extend to her browser?



And I assume all her bookmarks and history items would be retained? Dumb question, I know...just making double-sure.

[CitizenTony]

Bastards. I really liked the tabs up top. And it's still missing the ability to make an app out of a website that I thought they promised.

[Moogs]

Scates: I don't see any harm in it. Doesn't replace any bookmarks or history or anything AFAIK. You can tell them "I optimized your browser" and let them be amazed at the performance gains. "Paul you're a genius!"



You'll enjoy that right up until "Paul do you think you could fix my Mom's computer? It's running slow."

[curiousuburb]

Paul, as Moogs says... no apparent change to bookmarks or History... just make sure you reboot and run it a few times.

Top Sites takes a bit of time to reindex and gather fresh previews... still loading thumbs a few minutes after restart

You don't want them to fire it up for the first time and mistake optimization for borkedness.

[Kickaha]

Good lord, this thing is just *FAST*. *click* *BOOM* *click* *BOOM*

This is gonna make porn just that much faster. Wow.

[psmith2.0]

I've been using the 4.0 beta on my iMac at home for a good while now (the first day it was made available, whenever that was). Are you all being serious when you're saying it's that much faster? It's that noticeable?'

Hell, I'm doing it...

Back in a couple.

[hmurchison]

Originally Posted by Kickaha Good lord, this thing is just *FAST*. *click* *BOOM* *click* *BOOM* This is gonna make porn just that much faster. Wow.

Check the edit menu it now has a "de-pimpelizer", perfect for blurring out the ones that made it through post production LOL.

j/k of course.

[Moogs]

Originally Posted by Kickaha Good lord, this thing is just *FAST*. *click* *BOOM* *click* *BOOM* This is gonna make porn just that much faster. Wow.

I'm surprised they didn't have an anime benchmark on the product page for you.

[Brad]

Oh god. They FINALLY made the combined stop/reload button more usable!!!



Stop now has this huge clickable area, but reload is still just the small circular arrow, meaning "accidental reload" mis-clicks from slow pages are far less likely.



THANK YOU APPLE.

Also, top tabs? Good riddance!

[ezkcdude]

Originally Posted by Brad Oh god. They FINALLY made the combined stop/reload button more usable!!!

Yep, first thing I noticed, too,

But I'm bummed about the tabs. I liked 'em like I like my women...on top.

[curiousuburb]

Looks like the Develop Menu has some more detailed options as well...

Didn't see the User Agent strings for Mobile Safari (iPhone and iPod Touch) and quite so many previous Browser subversions before.



And it's Parsecs faster.

[Yontsey]

This new browser is teh snap!

[Dorian Gray]

Guys, I think pscates2.0 is an early casualty to this thing... Last seen at 23:02 Paris time.

[psmith2.0]

Ha...I forgot to come back and give my "thumbs up for the Snappy!" approval!



No, all is fine.

[MBHockey]

Originally Posted by Brad Oh god. They FINALLY made the combined stop/reload button more usable!!! Stop now has this huge clickable area, but reload is still just the small circular arrow, meaning "accidental reload" mis-clicks from slow pages are far less likely. THANK YOU APPLE. Also, top tabs? Good riddance!

I agree Brad. The tweaks in Safari 4 are a major victory for all AppleNovians who got on bored and submitted bug reports on Safari 4 Beta.

[Elysium]

One slight hiccup, but otherwise I am impressed.

Considering it's on a G4 with 10.4.11 that's saying a lot.

[Kraetos]

Originally Posted by Brad Oh god. They FINALLY made the combined stop/reload button more usable!!! Stop now has this huge clickable area, but reload is still just the small circular arrow, meaning "accidental reload" mis-clicks from slow pages are far less likely.

Also: the indicator appears to be navy blue when it's trying to connect, but white when it's actually loading. That's all it needs to be as good as the old status bar. The status bar wasn't accurate w/r/t remaining time, but it did tell you if the page wasn't loading at all because it froze near the beginning.

Basically, they fixed all the UI problems from the beta

Also, holy hell it's fast! Most pages load instantly. I think this is going to replace Chrome on my PC...

[CitizenTony]

Originally Posted by Brad Oh god. They FINALLY made the combined stop/reload button more usable!!! Stop now has this huge clickable area, but reload is still just the small circular arrow, meaning "accidental reload" mis-clicks from slow pages are far less likely.

It switches from that dark blue to a light gray then back to the normal address bar so fast it's like a strobe. Hopefully I'll get use to it, but right now it catches my eye every time it changes. A bit annoying, but better than the tiny "x" from the beta.

[Enki]

Originally Posted by Brad Oh god. They FINALLY made the combined stop/reload button more usable!!!

More usable!?!

The damn thing is totally unusable!

Pages load so damn quick now all I see is a dark flash in the bar and it's gone! How the hell am I supposed to stop something from loading if it's done already!

[psmith2.0]

Totally! Those bastards.