[Brad]

FWIW, if we did want to give Overviewer a spin for the big maps, its 1.13 format support is still a little buggy (and unreleased; I had to build from a development branch here too), but at least it renders. Also, it dropped the Google Maps API in favor of Leaflet, a free open-source alternative. It zooms and pans and generally feels just like Google Maps. Switching to Leaflet gets around the un-free licensing problem that killed our last round of maps.

A screenshot of a somewhat old partial map backup without using our blessed texture/resource pack:

[Brad]

Originally Posted by 709 I just want to say, preemptively, I'm sorry. I did go out to check if the mesas were still there. They were. I don't know why I was so concerned. I swore I wouldn't do world bloat this time around yet here I am.

[turtle]

Yeah, I've starting thinking beyond our old map developer now. With Christmas coming and all my family obligations I haven't put much into alternatives just yet. The dev said he hopes to convert from Google to Leaflet and show to to convert the old maps over as well. If so I can even restore the archives!

I won't rule out switching to Overviewer, I just like it a lot less than Tectonicus. I will say, the last time I did switch there was an issue with scripting it. I don't recall the issue at the moment, but I do recall there being one.

[kscherer]

Originally Posted by 709 Man that ~20 minutes that we all take to get a grip on Elytra is SO stressful... I'm just glad I was there to watch someone else doing it. Gotta give it to arteggio though, once up and flying he was able to follow/lead like a pro.

709: "Okay, just jump and press the 'go' button."

Arteggio: "There's a 'go' button?"

Me: "It's right next to the 'stop' button."

709: "Don't listen to him. Don't EVER listen to him."

Arteggio: SPLAAAAT!

709: "You forgot to jump."

Arteggio: "So, I just jump?"

709: "Yes, and then press 'go'."

Arteggio: "Wait, I can't find this 'go' button."

709: "I mean the …"

Arteggio: SPLAAAAT!

Me: "Jump up and down, rub your belly, spin around three times, and shout 'oogablooga'."

Arteggio: SPLAAAAT!

Me: "Go to a high place. Jump off. Press 'jump'. Right click a rocket. Fly."

Arteggio: SPLAAAAT!



I wasn't watching, but it was fun to "watch". I recall having the same trouble.

[arteggio]

Originally Posted by 709 Man that ~20 minutes that we all take to get a grip on Elytra is SO stressful... I'm just glad I was there to watch someone else doing it. Gotta give it to arteggio though, once up and flying he was able to follow/lead like a pro.

Originally Posted by kscherer 709: "Okay, just jump and press the 'go' button." … Arteggio: SPLAAAAT! I wasn't watching, but it was fun to "watch". I recall having the same trouble.

Thank you for the flying lessons, 709! I'm so far removed from Minecraft advancements I wouldn't have even discovered Elytra, let alone learned how to fly it! The easiest way I found to take off and not splat is to jump into water, spread them wings, and then launch. So I may build a swimming-pool-runway at my new premises. Definitely not jumping off any mountains…

[Brad]

Here's the main landmass scaled down to 25% each direction. So, at this scale, 1x1 pixel = 4x4 blocks.
(based on a backup dump I grabbed from yesterday afternoon)



The checkerboard pattern just indicates region file areas.

Ideally, one would settle in the dead center of a region, making it easier to decide what regions to save when we prune.

[arteggio]

Originally Posted by Brad Here's the main landmass scaled down to 25% each direction. So, at this scale, 1x1 pixel = 4x4 blocks. (based on a backup dump I grabbed from yesterday afternoon)

Thanks a ton for the map!!

Ideally, one would settle in the dead center of a region, making it easier to decide what regions to save when we prune.

People…

[Brad]

JFYI, I uploaded a much higher-quality image of most of our world with a 1:1 ratio of pixels to blocks:

https://i.imgur.com/TRPpoKJ.jpg

[Brad]

I'm just gonna leave this right here…

https://applenova.com/mcmaps/

…and say it maybe updates about once an hour.

No promises.

...

Hopefully you won't even notice it run, turtle. CPU and bandwidth should be pretty low because this tool only attempts redraw if the region has actually been updated since last draw, and the whole generated output is (as of now) only a whopping 13 MB.

[kscherer]

I'm a bit troubled by the perfect symmetry of torches around the museum. I think Grey may need some intervention.

Block rendering seems a bit off, but at least it's something. Thanks for doing that.

[Dr. Bobsky]

I think the torches are fine. What I worry about is the fact that mothra has no natural enemy in the world.

[turtle]

Neat! Thanks Brad. I still have the VM sitting idle for the old maps. I just haven't stopped to figure out a new method since my old developer stopped playing and with that left the maps generally untouched.

[kscherer]

Originally Posted by Dr. Bobsky I think the torches are fine. What I worry about is the fact that mothra has no natural enemy in the world.

Hey, Gojirra has his feet firmly planted on the ground!

[Brad]

Originally Posted by kscherer I'm a bit troubled by the perfect symmetry of torches around the museum. I think Grey may need some intervention.

Anyone who doesn't implement perfect symmetry of torches needs some intervention. I'm not crazy; you're crazy!!

Originally Posted by kscherer Block rendering seems a bit off, but at least it's something.

Unfortunately, the program I'm using doesn't have colors implemented for all block types, and double-unfortunately it's a closed-source binary. So, I can't just make the changes myself. Triple-unfortunately, there are not many map-generating tools that even support 1.14, and this is the only one I got working reliably and consistently.

Originally Posted by kscherer Thanks for doing that.

Cheers!

[kscherer]

Originally Posted by Brad Anyone who doesn't implement perfect symmetry of torches needs some intervention. I'm not crazy; you're crazy!!

I refuse to comply! I will not be assimilated.

[Brad]

Speaking of perfect symmetry, the middle of the skyranch is ruined.

[kscherer]

I would consider that a wonderful design change, considering.

[709]

Gah. You know I had to run out there this morning before work and fix it.

[kscherer]

[709]

Originally Posted by Brad …and say it maybe updates about once an hour. No promises.

It updates pretty quickly, really. Nice to have an overhead again!

[kscherer]

Originally Posted by 709 Gah. You know I had to run out there this morning before work and fix it.

Originally Posted by kscherer

You know, I kind of liked it a bit messed up. Reminds me of Bruce. He's a good guy, you know. But, buried in there somewhere is a loose screw, and that's what makes Bruce … Bruce!

Aaaaand it also looks like a pair of tighty-whities!

Or, maybe those are granny-panties.

Captain Underpants!!!

[drewprops]

No 3D mode??

WEAK




....

[Dr. Bobsky]

Originally Posted by kscherer You know, I kind of liked it a bit messed up. Reminds me of Bruce. He's a good guy, you know. But, buried in there somewhere is a loose screw, and that's what makes Bruce … Bruce! Aaaaand it also looks like a pair of tighty-whities! Or, maybe those are granny-panties. Captain Underpants!!!

I will have you know there aren't just a few loose screws.

Also: tighty-whities are uncomfortable.

[Dr. Bobsky]

Does this mean the Skyranch has a new purpose?

I hope so... I didn't do that Perlin noise generated terrain for no reason...

[Bryson]

So, I’ve joined another server as well in this age of staying home at all times.

They’re running Dynmap, which updates *live* including showing player locations. It seems like magic. I can keep it open in the browser on my second screen.

Not knowing the deep and technical details of all this - is this something we could possibly use? I’m assuming it requires a Bukkit install to enable.

[turtle]

Since it looks like the old map rendering software I was using is no longer being updated for the current version of MC I'm likely going to try to switch to Overviewer instead. Looking at Dynmap it would require something other than vanilla and I'm not ready to take on that maintenance right now.

As it is, maps are going to have to hold until early May at the soonest thanks to things going on in my family (not COVID-19). I'll share more about those changes when the time comes though.