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turtle
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2019-10-18, 22:24

I finally got the supplemental update by using the normal method last night. I just worked that time.

As for failed updates, Server 2016 is way more stable about it than 2012 R2. I only work with Windows 10 for PC desktop systems and I generally don't have a problem there though a few. At this point, I have to say my macOS systems are just as buggy about updates as Windows 10/2016 (and 2019 for that matter).

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2019-11-22, 17:20

So what's the real-life, on-the-street word/assessment on Catalina? The machine I'm on currently (early-2013 13" Retina* MacBook Pro) supports Catalina, but Mojave is running really well on this and I'm just not looking to throw a wrench into things. Am I better just holding what I got and waiting until after the holidays (and a few point updates, to shake out anything needing shaking out)?

I'm current (13.2.3) on my iPhone, and it and this Mojave-based MBP are talking together just fine. Maybe I just answered my own question...don't rock the boat, Paul

I've checked the 64-bit stuff and the only two things that show up as "no" when I look at Applications in my System Report/Information are InkServer (v10.9) and quicklookd32 (v5.0), both showing "obtained from" Apple. There is nothing listed in the Legacy field. As it stands now, the only third-party application on this is MacTracker, which I always keep around for quick, handy reference. Everything else on this machine is Apple-based, and all of it - except for the two things above - is 64-bit. Any day now, I'll have Affinity Designer (and maybe Photo) installed, but I know they're Catalina-compatible.

Are there just any super-good reasons to - or NOT to - upgrade to MacOS Catalina, here at the tail-end of November 2019? Who here is on Catalina, and what are your thoughts? Who here isn't, and why? I was always a first-day adopter on OS X and iOS releases, but I haven't been that way for a few years now. And I've fallen behind in recent years on OS X/MacOS releases (my old, recently-departed iMac could only go to El Capitan, so I missed out completely on Sierra and High Sierra) and only have about 6-7 days on Mojave.

My gut says to just sit tight, stay with what's working...I've gone this long not being on the latest, current MacOS, so what's the hurry? Eight days ago, I was on El Capitan...
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kscherer
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2019-11-22, 17:46

Don't do it, yet. There are a lot of issues still floating about, 32-bit death being just one of them. I've been running it at home and am having trouble with Safari extensions, notifications, some mail issues, and a variety of minor problems. I just don't think it's finished baking, and recommend to all of my customers to wait until at least the 10.15.3 update, which will likely be in January.

Catalina will be excellent, but I think I've had more trouble with this upgrade than any in the past.

If Mojave is running fine, leave it be for now.

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pscates2.0
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2019-11-22, 17:55

Just what I wanted to hear. Thanks! Mojave is still all new to me (the desktop turns dark as the day goes on ), so I'm fine with waiting as long as needed. I seem to be reading about more issues/trouble with Catalina than some other recent major updates, so I didn't want to go charging into it "just because" without checking. Seemed like an unnecessary roll of the dice...I just wanted to hear it from someone else.
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turtle
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2019-11-25, 21:01

Yeah, I'm with Ken on waiting it out. I have it on my MBP but still use Mohave daily. I'm shocked at how many apps died with 10.15 but maybe I shouldn't.

Generally speaking it isn't bad, but it does not feel polished yet. More smooth than launch, but not polished.

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Bryson
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2019-11-27, 15:37

Two Catalina bugs that keep recurring for me:

1: Every now and again, it decides that I'm no longer allowed to write files to the desktop. I have to restart to be allowed again.
2: My exchange account in Mail sometimes pops up an error claiming that the mail I'm writing has an "Invalid Base64 string for MIME type" and it can't move the message to the mailbox. Then moves it anyway.

I wouldn't mind but it seems that as well as being more frequent, the error messages are getting increasingly cryptic in their phrasing.
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2019-11-27, 16:18

Mail crashes for me out of the blue once or twice a day. It happened before Catalina, though; since about 10.14.3, I wanna say. So might be something broken in the database?

Also, my machine now likes to spontaneously shut off. Just like that. No kernel panic, just gone.
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