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Yeah, I get that. But I think with a bit more persistence, Apple could have done a bit better on each.
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This is probably a form over function thing (finances aside) — they could simply always give their monitors a VESA bracket, and then give you a choice of stands to add, but then the back of the screen would look a fair bit more "industrial" than Apple likes. OTOH, at that point, does it really matter? Tons of stands out there, starting at around $30. Get that config, and ignore Apple's stands, which aren't really all that great for their price point. |
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What's the big deal with external power supplies? Other than they suck? Ones built in get cooling from the fans, the external ones get hot and under heavy loads can cook themselves shortening the life span of the device. The cords are never long enough and the stupid things are hanging in the air off the desk. I have some sitting on boxes to keep them from dangling, not ever desk is built with cable management in mind after all.
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No, point 1 was about the Mac Studio, but points 2 and 3, by my understanding, are about the display.
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Yep, the non-removable power cord issue is with the Studio Display.
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Yeah, I’d even say the trash can had a nicer thermal design. However, I imagine Apple wants to avoid associations with its reputation.
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The current design is likely much simpler to manufacture, which given supply shortages, is the best way to get things to market.
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I guess I'm a bit confused they would derive their all-new Mac Studio from the 2010(!) Mac mini design. Maybe the Mac Studio is actually a lot older than we think; maybe it's even a reuse of a rejected design that ultimately became the 2013 Mac Pro.
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It certainly is possible that Apple had designed a larger enclosure for a more powerful Intel chip, but it got thrown out because of heat constraints that only the M1x could solve? So it is also possible that the design is several years old and got recycled.
Still, I have no problem with the design as it exists in pictures. We'll have a floor model in later next week and I'll decide then. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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I mean, it's also the wrong color. The pro stuff should clearly be Slightly Darker Grey™.
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I don’t get the hate for the design, it simple and functional. That’s exactly want you want and need from a workstation computer. If it an’t broke, don’t fix it.
Maybe they are saving the dark colour for the true Mac Pro replacement? Maybe the want to save the trash can design (which is where it belongs ) for that machine? |
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We just got our Mac Studio floor model in and put it out. It's still downloading demo software so it will be a bit before I can tell you all that it looks and feels like a Mac.
Otherwise, it's a Big Mac mini with ports on the front, which is super handy. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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All of the Apple Store refurbs of the Studio so far have a 512GB SSD.
Leading to the natural conclusion: The lesser-capacity SSD is not suitable for high-end consumers who are the Studio's target market. And they are returning the 512GB model in much higher volumes. I think if Apple had made the Studio's SSD replaceable, no one would be taking about a new 27" iMac and the company would have a clear hit on its hands. Instead, it goes down as one of their questionable design decisions. |
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And that has nothing to do with the 27" iMac, which will most likely have non-replaceable SSD's. The $1600 (!) 27" Studio Display is what makes people miss the $1800 27" iMac. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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You can replace them, as long as they’re the same size as the old ones, and then you need to install the OS from scratch, as they’ll get a new hardware encryption key. You can’t just swap between devices.
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They're not designed to be installed at all. I don't know how much of this is an intentional, malicious limitation vs. how much is because they've simply never designed this that way.
It's essentially the same design from the Apple Watch all the way up to the Mac Pro: the machine ships with a disk that's tied to the Secure Enclave's hardware key. The Mac Studio and Mac Pro happen to have slots where you could theoretically insert different flash chips, but it doesn't follow that they're designed to let you do that, much less designed to let you upgrade to a higher capacity. |
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