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Well, Harry is a soldier with *red hair*. Difficult to tell a redhaired soldier to stay home and knit tea cozies. (Difficult to tell redhaired guys pretty much 'anything'. haha *cough* ) I wonder if we'd still be IN this war if Bush's daughters were scheduled to be deployed to Iraq? I doubt it very seriously. |
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I'm hoping they'll kill him off. I hate the way the class system is perpetuated by the Royal Family existing.
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....where he will have an armed guard of about 50 soldiers 24 hours a day, and theres no fucking way he will be allowed within a mile of any frontline action.
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Just 'my' take on it, anyway. |
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At least the royal family is putting their money where their mouth is.
It makes me mad when Bush talks about "sacrifices". What sacrifices has Bush made? Send the Bush daughters to Iraq, if they're so confident in their mission. You had me at asl ....... |
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But my impression is that most allied soldiers are killed and maimed simply by driving down the road - not by 'frontline' action. Right?
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Yeh. So he won't be even allowed out of the Basra Safe Zone. My guess is that he will do lots of Barrack training, and meet other soldiers for moral support, then go out on a few organised drives through very safe areas.
The insurgents will be all over him otherwise. Can you imagine what he is worth captured?? |
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The Royal Family are a bunch of preening tossers who serve no purpose other than giving the illusion of a successful tourist attraction (as if people would stop visiting a country because they abandoned the Monarchy ... happened to France, I suppose ... *not*) and in reality cost us a whole heap of money that could be spent elsewhere. Like ammunition for the firing squad I'd hand-pick to cleanse the earth of Prince Philip. They'd publicly say that they won't treat him any differently to any other soldier, but mount a seriously full-proof rescue attempt behind the scenes, would be my guess. They couldn't deal with it any other way. |
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Funny what a few years does, getting one through that "awkward teen" phase.
The older one (William?) was always the heartthrob, the one you'd see in magazines and with girls going bonkers. I guess in his teens and early 20's he had a good look. Harry always looked like a muppet with a scrunchy face. The "less attractive son of Di"... Fast-forward a few years, and William is looking more like an effeminate version of his old man every day, while the younger one has turned out pretty okay. I still say he looks like Dale Earnhardt, Jr.*, but that's better than looking like Prince Charles I guess. * Much like those infamous Lincoln/JFK similarities, consider the following: - Both come from very famous fathers - They drive expensive vehicles that require skill and training - Both have been known to partake of the drink - In the spotlight more than ever, these past five years - Make a certain type of girl swoon and act all silly in their presence, for basically the same reason (fame/money) - The very mention of their name draws praise or outrage, depending on your views on the royal family and NASCAR - Most importantly, both have probably gotten laid more in the past year than I have in my entire life Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2007-02-17 at 15:57. |
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I'm interested in a comparison of how 'different' upward social mobility would be in the US versus in England. Just 'how' difficult would it be for a middle-class person in the US versus England to be truly accepted into the upper class? I suppose part of the answer is that we don't really have 'much' of what you'd call an 'upper class' over here. I mean, we have lots of rich people, but I wouldn't really consider most of them 'upper class' by any means - not by birth, not by demeanor. They just have lots of money. Take Bill Gates, for example. Richest guy in the world? But he seems like an upper-middle-class person to me. And Kate Middleton, Prince William's honey - I know she is a 'commoner', but what 'class' is she, I'm wondering? Upper middle class? Upper class? I think the manner of one's speaking is the most noticeable feature of 'class' in both the US and England/UK. Wouldn't you agree? Over here, poor grammar is often used by lower class and lower middle class individuals, and so their speech marks them out as not well-educated. Of course, their behavior follows next as a determining factor. But if a lower middle class person in America were to make a point of learning to speak English with proper grammar, and if he were to behave in a socially acceptable manner, he could probably interact, without much difficulty, with whatever upper class people we might have (assuming that we have 'any'). Of course, I could be wrong about that, but that is my current impression of the matter. And yes, I think the royal family is fairly useless, but also fairly harmless, and kind of cool in a history/heritage context. I think they should *not* be siphoning any money from the country's coffers, except in the *very few* instances when they are performing some crucial national function ( and how often does 'that' ever happen? Almost never, probably.) They should be living off their own wealth. But I think a firing squad to solve this problem would be a bit extreme. haha |
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I think the Royal Family costs each person 61p a year or something. I personally couldn't give a shit, but I do think its kind of weird how just being born in the right place guarantees you a life of luxury paid for by everyone else.
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Fuck off.
Was that a little more "straight" for ya? I'm just noticing/commenting on something that I've heard lots of people mention over the years. One was the "prince charming" and teen idol at one time, one wasn't. Then it seems to have switched as they've gotten older. Your problem? |
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Ha. Okay then, problem solved.
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Then, hey, I think the money your economy rakes in from tourism (ie. for tourists to see the changing of the guard, etc.) is *well* worth the 61p you have to cough up to keep this monarchy thing up and running. |
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Well, I agree. But then in a way I prefer the more mature looks and attitude of Will, rather than the druggie party boy, ginger Harry. But I wouldn't chuck either of them out of bed.
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That's really.... just... pathetic to say. |
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I am so glad this is not a redundant political flame war thread! Regardless of a person's political opinion of war and world peace, it is refreshing to see a young man stand up of his own accord, leaving the posh surroundings that he could very easily devise any excuse, or even valid *reason* to stay planted there, firmly enshrouded by comfort and safety, subjecting himself not only to the torture of military training, but pressing on towards becoming a respectable leader.
We sit around talking about what a worthless waste people like Paris Hilton, Anna Nicole, and Ms. Spears have made out of their lives and position of enormous potential, yet here is a young man in a 'greater' position than all of them, willing to put it all on the line to become something more than a spoiled brat living off daddy's money, and fight for what he believes in. Persuasions on war, peace and the royal family are truly irrelevant to this IMO. Right, wrong, or indifferent, you have to breathe a sigh of gratitude for the such a breath of fresh air and renewed promise amongst young people in the world today. |
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I don't mind people being born into rich families so much, because everyone else isn't paying for them.
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u r obviously doing fine - as a) u have done a hell of a lot more than me and b) u are 'not sure' if it makes sense - i KNOW mine doesn't make any sense . u r depressing me even more ! wish i had sum alcohol, i would find the whole situation a lot more amusingAt any rate, I can't abide that sort of violence towards a language. I type my text messages, emails and Facebook posts in full sentences with punctuation. Quote:
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I've never been bothered by people born into money (and, frankly, I admire like hell the ones who weren't, but who go out and make gobs of money by pursuing their dreams and busting their ass).
But back to the ones "born" into it: it isn't the "money" (and all that goes with it) that decides anything. It's all down to the person...what they do, how they act, the person they decide to be. I've known several "old money" types in my time. Some were unbearable, a walking caricature/stereotype. A couple of others, you'd never meet more grounded, decent people in your life. They didn't carry on that way, and you'd have no idea what all they came from. They didn't let it be their "calling card" in life. Same on the other end: I've known poor saints and poor shitheads in equal amounts. I don't know. Not living in the UK, I don't know much about the whole "royal family" thing, and the division it represents. But it sure seems to do just that, huh? I think it's kinda silly, what little I see or know. I pretty much learned all I needed to when the death of Di got 500x the coverage than that of Mother Teresa, who died less than a week after Di. Remember that, the disparity? Truly appalling, considering. That's when you know your "celebrity worship" is out of control: when a princess trumps a saint in the eyes of the media and many people. |
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That's funny. Actually, I was sitting here thinking, now what the 'heck' is her name, when all of a sudden I remembered the Poirot story called "Hunter's Lodge", where a Mrs. Middleton is an important character. So *that's* how I remembered Kate's name. And I wasn't entirely sure it was 'Kate', but I thought I'd wing it. Plus, I'd say every female for the last quarter-decade has been watching Prince William with a certain interest. I was especially fascinated at the news that a woman from his social class was arranged to 'initiate him into manhood' when he came of age. Last edited by Windswept : 2007-02-17 at 18:44. |
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I wasn't surprised. Think of her as a Royal Taster. Henry VIIIth used to have a Royal Ass Wiper Groom of the Stool Quote:
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I can actually see them getting some lookalikes and using them as bait diversions to draw the worst threats out and away. Also a tough job. All those who believe in telekinesis, raise my hand. |
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