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2004-07-15, 22:45

I'm kinda leaning in the 23" direction. Don't get me wrong; I technically can't afford either option, but I'm going to have to choose one pretty soon because my CRT is starting to crap out on me. I tried working the invisible palette route for a while and it works OK. But it's almost like the time I save by not having to use the grabby tool to move the image / canvas, is lost by pausing to remember which palette is hooked to which key.

I guess what I should do is stack as many of them together as I can so there are fewer keys to remember, but then the slow down comes when you have to move the mouse to choose a different tab.

One thing I kind of like about that Sketchbook Pro app is the new way of approaching toolsets. They're sort of grouped by general category and stowed invisibly but pop right up with a mouse click. I wonder if Apple could / will do something analogous with the Finder / Desktop / Dock functionality.

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2004-07-16, 08:31

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My brother and I just bought a dual 2.5 GHz PowerMac with the 20" Aluminum Display. The display will come tomorrow, and I'd be happy to post photographs as we open the box and set it up. However, there is the problem of hosting the images as my new ISP (Adelphia) blocks http requests. If anyone can give me a workaround/place to host I'd be most grateful.

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Ladies and gentlemen, I give you...Blueflame's snazzy new 20" Cinema Display

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2004-07-16, 08:40

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2004-07-16, 08:48

Onya Paul - thanks for hosting the shots.

Damn - it's nice and sleek. Such an improvement on the previous screen in those photos.
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2004-07-16, 11:03

Thank you, pscates, for hosting the images.

As it turns out, the LCD is flawless. Not a single bad pixel that I can see.

Now if only the G5 were here...

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2004-07-16, 11:15

You're welcome. No problem. Although I dig your old display too! I loved the glass 17" Studio Displays with the funky, "wrap around on itself" base!
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2004-07-16, 11:39

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You're welcome. No problem. Although I dig your old display too! I loved the glass 17" Studio Displays with the funky, "wrap around on itself" base!
I love those things too. I still have one hooked up to my Cube. It's an awesome display. Not a single problem with it ever.

And to top it all off, it looks really really cool

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2004-07-16, 21:42

damnit.. I want that now.. -_-
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2004-07-16, 22:55

Got mine today. Hooked up to my 12" Alu. Powerbook.

IT'S. SO. WIDE!
IT'S. SO. BRIGHT!
IT'S. SO. SHARP!

I'm kind of lost on the desktop, rearranging my apps now with all the additional real estate.

...and yes, not a bad pixel among the 1.7 million.

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2004-07-16, 23:03

post pix noooooow!



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2004-07-16, 23:45

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Thank you, pscates, for hosting the images.

As it turns out, the LCD is flawless. Not a single bad pixel that I can see.

Now if only the G5 were here...

Blueflame
How's color uniformity. Is the bottom brighter than the top? Any side brighter than the other one. Are the whites pretty accurate? Any dead pixels?
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2004-07-16, 23:58

What generation Allu 12" u got? 1 gig? 1.33 gig?
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2004-07-17, 00:27


Now my camera downplays the brightness a bit due to the flash and the Powerbook is at angle, but still the difference is real.


The poor, old (19Kg!!) Syncmaster looking down from its perch. I'm still using it for the Cube peaking out on the right.

I'll connect the ACD to my PC (the shiny black thing the display's power box on the lower left) over the weekend. I want to see how Windows handles the resolution.

If I went truly, truly mad, I might buy a second one... depending on my employment status.

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2004-07-17, 13:12

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2004-07-17, 17:59

I just bought a 23". It's all they had at the Apple Store, so I said "Why not!"
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2004-07-17, 18:07

Wow! Do you have some pics you can post?

I just called the Alpharetta store in Atlanta and they're completely sold out! They only have ONE 23" demo display.



Rats. I was going down to check out the 20". Still going, just wanted to see the one I'd actually wind up getting at some point...

Would love to see your 23"

Okay, that was the worst thing I could ever type to another guy...



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2004-07-17, 18:22

Heh.
Well, I'll take some pics in a bit - busy cleaning up the desk and changing things around for the new device.

I have to admit, and this is sacrilege I know, that I'm actually going to hook it up to my Pee Cee.
I'm so sorry. Really I am, but my dead 12" PowerBook won't drive it (even if it was functional), my new 12" iBook won't work with it either, so the gaming rig is all I have until I get a new G5 - the store did not have any dual 2.5's in stock.
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2004-07-17, 19:58

It's beautiful. No dead/stuck pixels.
Now I just need to get some widescreen desktops - oh, and a G5.

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2004-07-17, 21:59

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2004-07-17, 22:21

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2004-07-18, 00:02

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How's color uniformity. Is the bottom brighter than the top? Any side brighter than the other one. Are the whites pretty accurate? Any dead pixels?
As far as I can tell, the color is uniform on all axes (how it's uniform front to back I leave as an exercise to the reader). No dead pixels, and the white looks white, albeit not quite as white as the old CRT it replaced. The colors tend to shift a bit when the LCD is viewed from extreme angles, but the shift is only noticeable on blacks (it appears slightly reddish).

All in all, money well spent!

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2004-07-18, 13:58

I'm at the Apple Store in Lenox Square and these displays are hot!.. I want one now!
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2004-07-18, 18:51

Can you play around with them at all? Gaming test to see how the response time fairs? Photoshop for color?
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2004-07-18, 18:52

Ha, I was at the Alpharetta store only hours ago.

They only had one 23" in stock, and it was the demo model. No 20" or 23" to sell, but she said they're getting more in this week.

So I only saw the 23". And I love it. Which kinda alters all my plans. I no longer really have the desire for a 20" like I did before today...the 23" was just simply too bodacious and drool-inducing. SO MUCH SPACE TO WORK IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



However, I can't really justify the 23" right now either.

What I'd LOVE to do, honestly, is get a 12" G5 PowerBook a year from now, or whenever they come out. Hopefully, by then, that model will come with the lighted keyboard and the option for 128MB graphics. I'd get that cute little monster AND a 23" Cinema Display and just have the most ass-kicking, best-of-both-worlds setup I could ask for (ultimate portability AND screen real estate).



I honestly think I'd rather have a small PowerBook and large display than a mid-range 15" PowerBook and 20" Display. Seems more practical and more of a true, meaningful "difference".

Although this could change by tomorrow morning...
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2004-07-18, 20:52

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What I'd LOVE to do, honestly, is get a 12" G5 PowerBook a year from now, or whenever they come out. Hopefully, by then, that model will come with the lighted keyboard and the option for 128MB graphics. I'd get that cute little monster AND a 23" Cinema Display and just have the most ass-kicking, best-of-both-worlds setup I could ask for (ultimate portability AND screen real estate).
That is exactly what I am going to do. I cant use the new monitors with my rev. a 12" PB anyway so Im going to wait til the G5 PB comes out, whenever that is, and buy a 20" or a 23" screen to go with it. Now thats the stuff dreams are made of.
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2004-07-18, 21:12

They did have a 12" PowerBook hooked to an older 20" (it might've been the 23", I couldn't really tell) Cinema Display (the three-legged design) and it was quite cool to see that side-by-side and imagine having all that nice working space while at home, doing serious stuff, but then closing up that dinky little 12" and heading out the door (so small!).

Yeah, best of both worlds for sure.

I was with my Dad and he'd never really seen Apple's stuff, all of it, in real life and close up (he's only seen my tangerine iMac DV, iMac G4 and 15" PowerBook). But he was in total "jaw drop" mode at the Apple store today.



He kept walking around, and looking at everything from all sides, touching it and just smiling. When he saw the new 23" I thought he was going to start slobbering. He loved the eMacs and was asking lots of questions about the 14" iBook. And he was playing with the iPod minis and seeing how many windows he could open on the 23".



"I can't believe they make one this big!"

"Well, don't forget...they have a 30" coming too, Dad...AND you could put them side-by-side and drive them from one G5".

He couldn't quite get his head around that (I almost can't, and I'm used to this stuff!)

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2004-07-18, 21:21

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2004-07-18, 21:21

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They did have a 12" PowerBook hooked to an older 20" (it might've been the 23", I couldn't really tell) Cinema Display (the three-legged design) and it was quite cool to see that side-by-side and imagine having all that nice working space while at home, doing serious stuff, but then closing up that dinky little 12" and heading out the door (so small!).

Yeah, best of both worlds for sure.

I was with my Dad and he'd never really seen Apple's stuff, all of it, in real life and close up (he's only seen my tangerine iMac DV, iMac G4 and 15" PowerBook). But he was in total "jaw drop" mode at the Apple store today.



He kept walking around, and looking at everything from all sides, touching it and just smiling. When he saw the new 23" I thought he was going to start slobbering. He loved the eMacs and was asking lots of questions about the 14" iBook. And he was playing with the iPod minis and seeing how many windows he could open on the 23".



"I can't believe they make one this big!"

"Well, don't forget...they have a 30" coming too, Dad...AND you could put them side-by-side and drive them from one G5".

He couldn't quite get his head around that (I almost can't, and I'm used to this stuff!)

If you're dad was thinking that about the 23"... he'll go crazy when he sees the 30". It sounds like they didn't have any at the store you went to... the 30" makes the others look like 10" screens. Seeing two of them together at WWDC was awesome. Too bad I don't have 10k for a dual 30" + G5 setup

I'd personally go with a 12" PB + 20" as an ideal setup... can't justify the price delta betwen 20" and 23".
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2004-07-18, 21:30

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If you're dad was thinking that about the 23"... he'll go crazy when he sees the 30". It sounds like they didn't have any at the store you went to... the 30" makes the others look like 10" screens. Seeing two of them together at WWDC was awesome. Too bad I don't have 10k for a dual 30" + G5 setup

I'd personally go with a 12" PB + 20" as an ideal setup... can't justify the price delta betwen 20" and 23".
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2004-07-18, 21:36

Edit: N/M, misunderstood comment.

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