Space Pirate
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Atlanta
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Boy oh howdy am I glad that I'm not into video games that much, but it sounds like you're making the correct move. You're not a producer, you're a user and you should use the optimal hardware/software combo. Alcimedes referenced the day of time to do a reinstall on a Windows machine, but dude I have the same onerous task to face any time one of MY machines tanks; reinstalling all of my software and upgrades takes FOREVER.
My Gameboy was stolen from my hotel room while I was doing a little job in Walterboro, SC a few years ago. Guess I'm in line for that new GB that's coming out~ (ha, the "Post Quick Reply" button says "STFU Torifile"!) |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minnesota
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What's funny is that I wasn't all into gaming (particularly PC gaming) until just a couple months ago. I always played games on my Mac, like Escape Velocity and Unreal Tournament, but until recently I was in the "get a console" camp. I COULD play games on my computer, but I could also play them on a console, so why not use a console?
It was my brother who really ended up getting me into it. Before I moved into my own place, he would have these huge LAN parties and I'd participate of course. It was a ton of fun and although I could play along in their UT2k4 games, I always noticed how mine ran poorly at low settings while everyone else had cheap PCs that ran it perfectly. I bought some upgrades for my machine but it didn't help. And now I'm here. Maybe it's just a phase. |
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Finally broke the seal
Join Date: May 2004
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an average program, like i don't know... 'ls' probably has 0 architecture specific things in it. (ls is the "list directory contents" program. like 'dir' for DOS.) the GNU Compiler Collection (gcc), which is used for virtually every GNU/Linux program I've ever seen, has to be made for each architecture, and i'm sure that it is probably mostly architecture specific code (since it has to output into an architecture specific binary/executable-file). for the most part, you can download the same source code as x86 people would download, and compile+install it {typically, you would type './configure && make all && sudo make install'}. many projects have pre-built binaries so u dont have to compile; some distros also host binaries of programs. some programmers do things which are pretty architecture-dependant (i don't know if you've heard of endian-ness, or are familiar with programming, but problems around endian-ness are the most common cross-compatibility issue. they are pretty easy to fix too, once you track them down). . topic at hand: Luca, you are teh sukc. remember that under windows (or "winblow$" as it is commonly called) you have a significantly increased virus risk. your soul is slowly being sucked away (and not sucked away in that fun way, like getting action on a saturday night. but in an unfun way, with razor blades and pitchforks). for me, gnu/linux is the OS. a ps2 console for playing games, and a gnu/linux console for writing games. |
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I shot the sherrif.
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once i got sick of the FPS genre, PC's lost their allure. i do understand that any machine can need a reinstall of some applications or the OS on occasion, but the ability to just drag and drop apps to install them has never been more appreciated than by me. i love it, and it makes any kind of upkeep/maintanence a breeze. we'll see though, it could easily be years before you ever get truly sick of windows. i don't think i was pushed over the edge until i had to support them on a daily basis. then it just got to be too much. guess i just don't like using a tool where i feel like it's a constant struggle to keep it doing what it should be doing. if you're using a Mac to game, then that's exactly what you're doing. i just feel like that's how it is using a PC to do everything else. Google is your frenemy. Caveat Emptor - Latin for tough titty I tend to interpret things in the way that's most hilarious to me |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Wouldn't it just be bitchin' if Apple simply made (or at least offered BTO options) capable, butt-kicking gaming systems? Is it the graphics card that's most at play here (I don't game, so I don't know)?
This seems to be the one constant, shared complaint about the Mac (gaming). What is it about the Mac that makes it lacking in this field, specifically? |
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I shot the sherrif.
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Google is your frenemy. Caveat Emptor - Latin for tough titty I tend to interpret things in the way that's most hilarious to me |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Is there not this huge, gaping hole then, that could be filled by some smart, talented company, creating Mac-only games? Seems like a ready-made niche, waiting to be filled!
Again, not being a gamer, I truly don't understand the politics, inner-workings, economics, etc. of this, so forgive me if the above question is exceptionally stupid. |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Arlington, VA
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Just wait till you are neck-deep in mal-ware. We will see who is going to run circles around whom.
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa, ON
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When there's an eel in the lake that's as long as a snake that's a moray. |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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I'm all for it!
Make me a "fly the space shuttle" and an "Old West shootout in the streets" game with cool, realistic graphics, sound, etc., and I'm there! |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minnesota
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Yeah, because I use Internet Explorer and Kazaa all the time... Saying that PCs always get spyware and viruses is like saying all Macs are slow and only for graphic designers. It's a popular misconception among people who don't use Windows that it's absolutely crawling with little things that will come out in the night and bite you. I use Firefox, which is not susceptible to malware. I don't use an email program AT ALL, and instead I simply use webmail. I installed a free copy of Symantec AntiVirus that my school gave me, and I run AdAware and Spybot once every week or two. So far I have found no spyware, malware, or viruses at all. Most PC users just don't know what they're doing and thing IE6 = teh intarnet, so they mess things up. If you're smart, it's not a huge problem. BTW, there have been a couple of Mac-only game developers in the past, but Ambrosia Software is the last one. And it's been over a year since they last released a game. Bungie and Pangea also used to be Mac-only, but Bungie obviously isn't like that anymore, and I'm not sure about Pangea. They've gone downhill. The problem is that there's this circle... game developers don't want to develop for the Mac, because there are no Mac gamers. There are no Mac gamers because there are very few good Mac games. Macs represent a very small part of the market, but if some company were to write a very good game that runs really well, they'd probably make money. It's just that the potential for success is so much higher on the PC side that no one ends up wanting to develop for the Mac. But on the flip side, there are so many PC games that unless it's really good, no one will buy it. |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa, ON
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Wait a second, that sounds like……………………..Star Trek. Ack, its been done. But I am sure it could be done way better in the “demonstration project” game I am imagining. Or maybe something completely different again. How about “White Blood Cells” a high resolution, cutting-edge graphics 3D combat game based on struggles within a human body? Been done? I imagine the possibilities for online play “C’mon guys, help me out here in the upper intestine”. When there's an eel in the lake that's as long as a snake that's a moray. |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Arlington, VA
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I am glad you are so vigilant...but this just supports what others are saying. You are expending considerable effort just to protect your PC. No need to do that with Macs.
I support PCs all days and have seen spyware infestations on machines operated by very knowledgeable power users. Not to say that you will get it, but still; it's a possibility. My productions machines at home are Macs. My servers are PCs. |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Dubuque, IA
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http://ga.rgoyle.com
Join Date: May 2004
Location: In your dock hiding behind your finder icon!
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What games you play, I have a PC too. I used to play Tribes2 a few years back - our team was number 5 in one of the european competitions. Then I kinda lost interest in games and just had my Macs.
Now I am getting back into the games I have bought myself a "Cheap" gaming machine. Been playing a bit of CS and am waiting to get my hands on the new Tribes game. PS. I only have antivirus running on my PC. No ad aware and No firewall. Why? because I know what I am doing. Don't get me wrong - I do not like windows, but when you know what to do, its as stabe as anything else. I have no applications that run at startup or things like that. I want MAXIMUM space for the games. OK, I have given up keeping this sig up to date. Lets just say I'm the guy that installs every latest version as soon as its available! |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: mid-Michigan
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Just my 2cents but we use only mac for business. We always have and probably always will due to not only security, but ease, and we have some customized apps. for our office. P C's yea we have one in the office for the web and some photo manipulation (for the web).the wife has a pc laptop at home she uses for the web and her digital PIX, for the same reason the boys' have pc's, They are what they learned on in school. Personally I will keep my mac's period, but not exclusively, and I would like to perhaps learn more abt linux. But you can bet I will keep 1 pc around not caring how infected it gets cause it has zero sensitive info on it. And it's disposable! Just my 2 plus cents MLV
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