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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Paris, France
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Yes, the study has very limited value. If you gave me a phone that wasn't my own but still had a normal keypad, it would take me a while to get used to it. Obviously the iPhone's completely different method of interaction will require a period of adjustment.
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Not sayin', just sayin'
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Who texts while driving?! Oh, I think I've seen that. Luckily, I kept a safe distance.
Yes, it make for some nice FUD. |
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Unknown
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This is how places like User Centric get noticed.
It reminds me of an article I read on MSNBC a couple of months ago about some kid who did a "study" that showed that iPods were bad for pacemakers. Bear in mind that doctors have been telling pacemaker patients for years not to place electronic devices near their chest area. But since this kid only tested iPods, and not other electronic devices, it suddenly became newsworthy. OH NOES!@!! the iPods are killing old people with the pacemakers.....EEK! Riiiiiight! Do you know where children get all of their energy? - They suck it right out of their parents! |
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St. Louis, MO
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Global warming will drown us all anyway, what does this matter?
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is the next Chiquita
Join Date: Feb 2005
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Maybe someone can start a new study studying how much User Centric and other firms actually know something about research methodology.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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This study is slanted but the one potential problem I see with the iPhone's interface is the fact that it forces users to look at the screen to do anything, other than unlocking it, adjusting the volume and placing it on mute.
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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and they don't look at their phone when doing stuff?
My experience has been to contrary; the only time they're are not looking at any phone's screen is when they're on the call. |
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Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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The difference is that it forces you to look at the keyboard as you are typing. The possibility of touch typing is almost completely gone since there is no tactile feedback on the iPhone.
Yes, touch typing (or something very much like it) is possible with itty-bitty keyboards. I can type reasonably quickly on my BlackBerry because it has little QWERTY buttons. Since I know QWERTY well enough and can feel the edges of the keys, I can type with my thumbs without having to slow down to constantly lift them and look at the letters beneath them. I can focus on the output, not the input, just as one should when typing with a full-size desktop keyboard. The quality of this board depends on the quality of the posts. The only way to guarantee thoughtful, informative discussion is to write thoughtful, informative posts. AppleNova is not a real-time chat forum. You have time to compose messages and edit them before and after posting. |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Ahh, makes sense now. Thanks for clarifying.
I'd imagine myself getting annoyed if I had to concentrate too much on inputting, have had "semi-touch-typed" with sidekick and blackberry. |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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This is just a minor issue but still one inherent to the multi-touch interface. The iPhone just isn't for everyone and that was said since day one. People are even bringing this up regarding the iPod feature, you have to have the darn thing in front of you to see what you're doing. |
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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i noticed you have to look at the phone more as well, but once you get the jist of the letter regions, i'm way faster than ever because you DON'T HAVE TO BE as accurate, which is a blessing for speed even. since it's qwerty, sometimes there are word similarities that come out unintended. i wish the predictive learning would be as smart and active as that on blackberries, as well as the editable dictionary feature.
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Yarp
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Road Warrior
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My only exposure to the virtual keyboard was playing with it for at least 3 or 4 minutes. Using two thumbs at a decently quick speed, I was unable to get a single letter correct. Using two thumbs at a painstakingly slow speed... I was unable to get a single letter correct.
Using just one finger, however, my typing became errorless, I was even able to do it fairly fast(faster than T9, slower than a real keyboard). As for texting while driving, you guys are a bunch of prudes. |
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Depending on how I'm sitting (or lying), I'll do the "one finger really fast" thing (which I've gotten really good at), or the "two thumbs", which I'm pretty okay at too.
But I fly when I hold my phone with my left hand and use my right index finger. It's like popcorn popping! I can type an e-mail similar in length to this post in fairly short order, while on the standard cell phone way (the whole "text messaging" thing, using a numeric phone keypad) it takes me about two minutes to write one sentence (and I couldn't bring myself to use all the "u", "r" and "2" horseshit, so it was even worse...thank goodness for the iPhone). And I don't mind looking at the thing when I'm typing. If I'm driving or doing something so important that I need to think about something else like "texting" or whatever, I shouldn't be doing both of them at the same time anyway (we've covered this before, I think)... I don't think I'm ever so busy or important to the world that I have to be barreling down the freeway and texting someone, sight unseen. And those of you who say you are, you're deluded and should get over yourselves. Take 30 seconds and pull into a parking lot for your communication tasks so you don't rear-end me at the next redlight. I love the iPhone keyboard. Having been a QWERTY user for years (and never really taking to, or getting into, that whole "texting" thing on a standard phone), it's a joy. |
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Yarp
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Road Warrior
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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No, not really. Next time I type something I'll give it a try and see what's what. Probably a timing issue more than anything. I'm okay with the two thumbs on different hands. For some reason, two fingers on the same hand sounds like it might be a struggle, or kinda tricky for some reason. Maybe not...
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Not sayin', just sayin'
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If by "prude" you mean "intelligent", then yes!
I suspect though, while a raised button will always be faster than a flat surface for typing speed, muscle memory does play a role after a while. I have no doubt that dedicated buttons will be faster, of course. It's just annoying that the iPhone is being measured in near absolute terms. Do you do so much typing on a mobile device that you need a dedicated, immutable keyboard that is otherwise further complicated by secondary and tertiary button functions? Is the loss of typing proficiency such that the gain in screen space and contextual/dynamic inputs do not offset this deficiency? The other option of course is to make a bigger device, and we know how well that goes. It's the whole sum-of-its parts conundrum that's taken a bit academically. Anyway, I'm preaching to the choir. I can't speak too informatively either since I don't actually own one yet, and once mine comes in 2 days, I will feel the need to rationalize my purchase. Sort of a no-win for us who defend Apple's design decision on this front. |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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If you want to text while driving:
If you are right handed, hold the iPhone in your left hand between your thumb and pointer finger. Grasp the 'spoke' of the steering wheel with the left hand between your pinky and ring fingers. Text with your right pointer finger while glancing between the screen and the road...Don't do it while merging or turning. |
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Banana's hot tips on texting while driving.
Before starting on a trip, place your iPhone in the trunk of the car. Proceed to your destination. Upon arrival and after turning off the engine and extinguishing the cigarette, you may remove the iPhone from the trunk. |
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Texting while driving is illegal here. Why on earth would anyone do this and why would any country make it legal to do?
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Unknown
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zippy's tips on texting while driving:
1) Don't do it on any road that I'm on, or I'll run your ass right off of it! 2) I think we're done here. Do you know where children get all of their energy? - They suck it right out of their parents! |
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Melbourne
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I am sincerely hoping that this is a joke, but I can't find any smileys...
If it's not a joke... man I'm glad we don't drive on the same roads... Jove's friendly tips for texting while driving: 1. Don't. 2. Please die. |
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Young man hit by train while SMSing ...
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Join Date: Oct 2005
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you guys are slow, i'm so fast that letters fly. the only problem is being so quick that, for example, my right thumb hits a letter, and before i have time to lift the right thumb, the left thumb is already impacting the glass, ultimately not registering the proper letter since it's not two independent touches to the screen.
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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Yarp
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Road Warrior
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What's even more laughable though, is the mentality of "I'll run you off the road if you're texting", while I understand that's a joke(sort of), what you advocate(road rage) is far more unsafe than texting while driving. Of course, I don't maintain long winded conversations with my thumbs every second that I am in the car. But replying to a sent message, exchanging a few notes, psh, that is easy, and not at all a safety concern for me. |
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