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drewprops
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2013-08-12, 01:35

It's true, I'm glad that I have the opportunity to clear up any confusion for you folks.

Let's review.

Star Trek - changed history
Star Trek: The Next Generation - a flying talk show in space with a bald-headed captain with shirt-based OCD.
Star Trek: Deep Space 9 - a floating mall near an interstellar bypass (follow my unbiased progress through a series of tweets using hashtag #drewpropsDS9)
Star Trek: Voyager - manliest captain since Kirk
Star Trek: Enterprise - the first of the follow-up series to actually be made of win


Let's review why.

1) T'Pol has large breasts and full, pouty lips.
2) think about #1 for about 30 minutes
3) She was smart, too (goto #2 for awhile longer)
4) They actually explored the galaxy and their ship looked real
5) They went out of their way to flesh out Star Trek history.
6) Gives me one solitary reason to compliment Rick Berman after lots of cock-ups.
7) DID NOT HAVE a psychoanalyst sitting on the bridge talking about feelings
8) Dared to set up uncomfortable situations between Vulcans and humans
9) the opening title sequence was a tribute to human exploration

Only screw-ups
a) the song was a bit hokey, but it does grow on you
b) just when you think song is okay they change it in 3rd season to sound "strummy-er"
c) not enough barely-clad T'Pol
d) getting cancelled 4 seasons in


Things to avoid:

i. comparisons to that lumbering turd called "Next Generation"
ii. conversations about Brent Spiner and dinner theatre
iii. discussions of the really awful 4th season 2-parter


Things to celebrate:
I) the 4th season 2-part tribute to the "Mirror, Mirror" episode
II) the appearance of original series sets and ship in that same episode
III) the parents of T'Pol




Next Generation fans SUCK IT, this is a discussion of the brilliance that is Star Trek: Enterprise

Bow to cede it glory.



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drewprops
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2013-08-12, 01:38

Okay I re-read this and don't understand #8 myself, but it's late and I'm sleepy. But still... SAN DIEMOS HIGH RULES!!!!!

Go, Enterprise, Go!


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2013-08-12, 01:41

I stopped watching Enterprise after season 1, too boring. Sorry to burst you bubble.
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drewprops
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2013-08-12, 02:45

Yes, but you're an idiot and prone to attracting ad hominem attacks*

Also, if you found Enterprise boring you must have lost consciousness upon hearing the opening titles for Next Generation, the smarmiest Trek of them all.

Or perhaps you're more of a shopping maven? This would explain any interest in the DS9 series.


*nothing to back this up

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Luca
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2013-08-12, 10:16

I waited a long time to watch Enterprise but when I finally did, I actually really liked it.

I didn't dislike TNG as you apparently did but I think too many people put it on a pedestal. I liked DS9 the most.

The original series is so cheesy that it's unwatchable. To me at least. Maybe because I'm too young to appreciate old fashioned, low budget TV. It's not just the effects, I can look past those, it's the acting. Kirk is way too over the top. On the other hand, I loved all of the movies featuring the TOS crew except V, which deserves all the hate it gets.

I love the intro music to Enterprise seasons 1 and 2. Totally in the running for my favorite intro music of all Star Trek shows.
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drewprops
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2013-08-12, 11:42

Yeah, it's a matter of the age into which you're born.

Imagine growing up with very little science fiction on television.

The Twilight Zone could be sci-fi at times, but it often felt more like horror to me.

Honest-to-gosh spaceships in space were amazing.

It has been (quite successfully) presented that the technology in the original Star Trek was simply a bunch of shortcuts for writers, but it was pretty prescient. The series affected the direction of the modern world at a very fundamental level, from technological to social - it taught me to see people as Terrans, not by their races. It did a lot.

If the original Star Trek was "Wagon Train in Space" as Roddenberry says, Deep Space 9 is "Gunsmoke in Space". New trouble rides into Marshall Dillon's space station every week.

Yes, there's something about that entire period of Next Generation Star Trek lore that annoys me.

And it's fun to trollishly make fun of it, and for your patience I thank you.

I'm looking at you, Starfleet X.



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2013-08-12, 14:06

With the exception of the original series (I was too young to get into it), I like all the Star Trek series. Voyager and Enterprise were my favorites, but I'd watch DS9 and TNG just as much.

Gotta say though, as niiice as boobies are, that is not why I watch SciFi and they distract from the whole scifi world; take me out of the element. It just feels gimmicky when it is overplayed like some focus group/thinktank just wanted to maximize ratings. Starbuck from the new BSG was one hell of a character and boobs didn't matter squat. (Then again there was 6... Maybe it is a necessary evil)

A lot of people diss Janeway on voyager but I thought that character was developed pretty well. There were differences in relation to other captains, but then again shouldn't there be? I found Archer to be fairly predictable, with writers relying on unpredictable situations and action to build drama. But he brought curiosity and humanity to Star Trek which was done well. Kudos.

Ok, back to work now...

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Wrao
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2013-08-12, 15:15

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I love the intro music to Enterprise seasons 1 and 2. Totally in the running for my favorite intro music of all Star Trek shows.

I liked Enterprise overall, but he intro music made me want, still makes me want really, die. It's planetarium music or bust for me as far as Trek is concerned.
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2013-08-12, 16:01

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Originally Posted by drewprops View Post
Yes, but you're an idiot and prone to attracting ad hominem attacks*

Also, if you found Enterprise boring you must have lost consciousness upon hearing the opening titles for Next Generation, the smarmiest Trek of them all.

Or perhaps you're more of a shopping maven? This would explain any interest in the DS9 series.


*nothing to back this up
I liked Next Gerneration and DS9 out of the series. I don't mind the original series, but found it a little much at some points. Voyager is okay, coming in at a distant third to TNG and DS9.
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drewprops
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2013-08-12, 19:43

Okay buddy, you like pap and smap.

::writes down notes in little orange notebook::

I feel like Bruce right now... living dangerously!!

LOLOLOL


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2013-08-12, 20:05

I really really liked Enterprise. Past posts will back me up on that.

TNG... well, of course I watched when it aired originally. I didn't love it, but it was ST, so whatever. Thing is, it's aged far worse than even TOS. Dunno what I can't stand about it now in re-watching it, but it just doesn't do it for me. I like the actors, I like certain stories, but I just don't like it anymore. Maybe it's one of those things of its time, but has a shelf-life.

I was only an occasional watcher of DS9, so I don't have an opinion on that, and Voyager I maybe saw once.

So it goes.
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2013-08-13, 08:42

Despite your suspect Dr. Who hypotheses, I'm actually inclined to watch this "new" series after reading your review, Drew. I mean how many different ways can you fuck up the same storyline (love the Deep Space 9 mall comparison... watched about two episodes of that POS and decided never to watch another Star Trek again). Literally I haven't watched in like 8 years or whatever that timeline has been.

I liked some episodes of Next Generation. Especially those that contained an excess of counsellor Troi (I never did take the time to go and watch the real-life pr0n she was in... pretty much disqualifies me as a real fan of the show), and a dearth of Jordeee the whiny blind guy. The fact that we never even for a moment got an NYPD Blue-like glimpse of the good counsellor's breasts or booty (even from the side), spelled doom for that show. Like the girl in HS who always teased but never put out. No good.

You can only take so many references to the Q Continuum (father of the Caring Continuum) and Picard facepalms before you realize Deanna is never going to make good on her purpose in life (melding soft porn and star trek for the masses).


BTW what channel is this new trek on... WGN?

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2013-08-13, 10:03

By the way, Captain Janeway is now a chunky Russian jailbird, courtesy of Netflix's Orange is the New Black:


That which doesn't kill you weakens you slightly and makes you less able to cope until you're completely incapacitated
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2013-08-13, 10:06

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TNG... well, of course I watched when it aired originally. I didn't love it, but it was ST, so whatever. Thing is, it's aged far worse than even TOS. Dunno what I can't stand about it now in re-watching it, but it just doesn't do it for me. I like the actors, I like certain stories, but I just don't like it anymore. Maybe it's one of those things of its time, but has a shelf-life.

I was only an occasional watcher of DS9, so I don't have an opinion on that, and Voyager I maybe saw once.
I can see how you might get that impression if you're rewatching TNG. I assume you started from the first episode and are going through the first season? Because when I watched TNG, I ended up skipping the first two seasons. So many of those episodes are just really, really bad. There are a few good ones, and I think enough people have done episode reviews that you can find which ones they are, but if you just start with the beginning of season 3, you'll be fine.
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drewprops
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2013-08-13, 13:47

There's one episode in the 4th and final season of Star Trek: Enterprise (the best of the follow-up series EVER MADE) which features the crew of Next Generation and it only served to remind me of what a colossal chatter-fest that show was.

It was "cozy".

Oh let's go have coffee in 10 Forward and talk about life and relationships.

OMG.

Fricking planets of awesome outside, in this cartoon universe of warp drives, and they're sitting around in a coffee house? Mind you, I would too, if all the lady crew were so big-bosomed.

Meanwhile, on my quest to watch DS9, this was my most recent tweet:

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#drewpropsDS9 The Ferrari guys are starting to become kind of endearing... endEARing? Get it?? Seriously: best turn this series comedic ASAP
I'm beginning to like the Ferraris and I really do think they could have made this a big comedy. I suspect that by the time its over it IS a big comedy.

Mind you, I'm not exactly calling it a "joke".... but....



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drewprops
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2013-08-13, 21:40

At Dellphi's suggestion I'm watching "The Captains".

I like it a lot and I'm only 5 minutes in.


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2013-08-14, 12:22

Breaking Trek.

Or, Trekking Bad.

Or something like that.....

http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/break...-animated.html
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