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Crusader · 2005-10-19, 11:22

Dual processor, dual core, holy hell.

Supports up to 1 TB of storage, 16 GB of RAM, has PCI-X.

Man, this thing is going to be a beast. Intel transition be damned, this is one of the sweetest macs ever made. Can't wait to see the full specs on the Apple site.

SonOfSylvanus · 2005-10-19, 11:34

Well, Apple needs to entice us before MacIntel arrives.

kretara · 2005-10-19, 11:35

wish I had the money for this beast.

It sure sounds nice.

Wraven · 2005-10-19, 11:44

I am saving up for this. Fuck the powerbook.

Bryson · 2005-10-19, 11:45

Anyone know prices yet? Or must I increase the Apple Store's server load yet further by hitting refresh 9 times a second?

onlooker.org · 2005-10-19, 11:46

Quad G5 w/ Nvidia QuadroFX 4500 PCI-E For the 3D Pro in you. Yeah!

$4,949.00 A lot of cash, but the card is usually $2,500.00 alone. That's actually a smoking deal.

in8 · 2005-10-19, 11:51

so for the $$ are these better buys than the old PMs?

pazzo83 · 2005-10-19, 11:53

What's the difference between ECC and non-ECC RAM?

robin · 2005-10-19, 11:53

So the two lower model PMacs (one dual core) are a bit hobbled as they share the bus whereas before they didn't have to (yes this is less efficient). Not that great an upgrade. The top model (quad) might be ok though over a dual 2.7.

Bryson · 2005-10-19, 11:53

Ah. Store is back up.

�1800 for the top-of-the range model. +�167 for RAM.

Ordered.

Result.

jer2eydevil88 · 2005-10-19, 11:57

Finally apple released something to quell frustration amongst its pro core...

Jay · 2005-10-19, 12:08

Now for the usage of my student developer discount. $2,639 for the quad and $3,500 in the bank account for this. I would so be buying now but my check card has a $2,500/day cap on it so I need to take a trip to the bank this afternoon to get it bumped up a bit. The only draw back is the lack of a mid-range graphics card option but the 6600 should blow my 5200 out of the water. <head exploding with excitement smilie>.

Bryson · 2005-10-19, 12:09

Those prices were educational, btw.

Interesting factoid: The Apple UK store just went back down for five minutes, and now you can also (but not on the main PowerMac Page) buy the old 2.7 Dual Processor for "if you need PCI-X".

Kit Fisto · 2005-10-19, 12:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by robin

So the two lower model PMacs (one dual core) are a bit hobbled as they share the bus whereas before they didn't have to (yes this is less efficient). Not that great an upgrade. The top model (quad) might be ok though over a dual 2.7.

It says 1GHz frontside bus per processor.
But that does not mean per core?

[edit: guess not. wonder if it matters?]

phd · 2005-10-19, 12:11

I just made my purchase

the Quad and a new 23inch

I think I just peed my pants

Now I have to wait a month

That should give me enough time to clean my pants

curiousuburb · 2005-10-19, 12:11

WTF!!! if you max the RAM BTO from Apple, add USD $11900 to your Quad.

Damn! If there's a reason to buy from Crucial or NewEgg

save enough to buy another G5

Unbeliever · 2005-10-19, 12:11

They are also packing Mighty Mouse standard now

jcoley2 · 2005-10-19, 12:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by onlooker.org

Quad G5 w/ Nvidia QuadroFX 4500 PCI-E For the 3D Pro in you. Yeah!

$4,949.00 A lot of cash, but the card is usually $2,500.00 alone. That's actually a smoking deal.

I just bought one but cannot see justifying $1650 for the QuadroFx card. I am using for home stuff (movie making, editing DVDs, etc.) Think the money would be better spent on additional memory (which I did not buy from Apple and will get from a third-party eventually.)

Don't you agree?

kretara · 2005-10-19, 12:15

Hey, hold on a minute.

The 2.0 and 2.3 PMs appear to be single processor (but dual core).
thats kind of a step backwards isn't it?

My excitement with the PM bump has gone down quite a bit.

admactanium · 2005-10-19, 12:17

yay! just ordered one.

oldmacfan · 2005-10-19, 12:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by kretara

Hey, hold on a minute.

The 2.0 and 2.3 PMs appear to be single processor (but dual core).
thats kind of a step backwards isn't it?

My excitement with the PM bump has gone down quite a bit.

No, but they should have dropped in price. Two individual CPU's can't talk to each other as fast as the two cores of the new CPU.

Bryson · 2005-10-19, 12:18

Well, that single, Dual-Core Processor is faster than the two previous separate processors. So....no, not a step back.

jcoley2 · 2005-10-19, 12:20

Hey, you notice that the 30" Cinema HD does not say it will suport this geForce 6600 card. . .only Radeon 9650 and x850 XT or GeForce 6800 DDL.

Is that an oversight by Apple not updating their website in that area or do I have a problem?? The Quad area say this card will support dual 30".

phd · 2005-10-19, 12:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcoley2

Hey, you notice that the 30" Cinema HD does not say it will suport this geForce 6600 card. . .only Radeon 9650 and x850 XT or GeForce 6800 DDL.

Is that an oversight by Apple not updating their website in that area or do I have a problem?? The Quad area say this card will support dual 30".

NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE and GeForce 6600
Standard Power Mac G5 configurations come with the NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE with 128MB of GDDR SDRAM or the NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB of GDDR SDRAM. These cards provide excellent all-around performance for creative and productivity users. Each card offers both a single-link DVI port and a dual-link DVI port and can simultaneously support one 23-inch and one 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Display.

oldmacfan · 2005-10-19, 12:26

I thought I heard there would be 4 new video cards...

jcoley2 · 2005-10-19, 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by phd

NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE and GeForce 6600
Standard Power Mac G5 configurations come with the NVIDIA GeForce 6600 LE with 128MB of GDDR SDRAM or the NVIDIA GeForce 6600 with 256MB of GDDR SDRAM. These cards provide excellent all-around performance for creative and productivity users. Each card offers both a single-link DVI port and a dual-link DVI port and can simultaneously support one 23-inch and one 30-inch Apple Cinema HD Display.

But not 2 30" at the same time. . .ok, I think I get it.

jcoley2 · 2005-10-19, 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmacfan

I thought I heard there would be 4 new video cards...

If you go to the tech notes they just posted they are listing 4 video cards:

6600 LE
6600
7800 GT
Quadro Fx 4500

But the third one (7800 GT) does not seem to be an option when you buy. Any one know why?

jouster · 2005-10-19, 12:34

Maxed out - 16 GB RAM, 1TB HD, Quadra card etc, but not including monitors or extra software - it'll set you back a wallet-busting $18,471.

I have pretty much okayed a G5 iMac with my S.O..... I might try to have a laugh persuading her that we need one of these instead.

rminkler · 2005-10-19, 12:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcoley2

I just bought one but cannot see justifying $1650 for the QuadroFx card. I am using for home stuff (movie making, editing DVDs, etc.) Think the money would be better spent on additional memory (which I did not buy from Apple and will get from a third-party eventually.)

Don't you agree?

To my knowledge, workstation class cards don't do opengl games all that well - a quadrofx card would be great for somebody doing hi-poly modeling, but for general use it might be worse than one of the consumer cards, like the 7800gt.

Dave · 2005-10-19, 12:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by pazzo83

What's the difference between ECC and non-ECC RAM?

ECC = Error Correction and Control
IIRC, ECC RAM is a bit slower, but it both corrects and controls errors.

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SonOfSylvanus Fro Productions(tm) Join Date: May 2004 Location: London Town	2005-10-19, 11:34 Well, Apple needs to entice us before MacIntel arrives.
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kretara Cynical Old Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Hot, Hazey, Humid South	2005-10-19, 11:35 wish I had the money for this beast. It sure sounds nice.
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Bryson Rocket Surgeon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Canadark	2005-10-19, 11:45 Anyone know prices yet? Or must I increase the Apple Store's server load yet further by hitting refresh 9 times a second?
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onlooker.org New Member Join Date: May 2004	2005-10-19, 11:46 Quad G5 w/ Nvidia QuadroFX 4500 PCI-E For the 3D Pro in you. Yeah! $4,949.00 A lot of cash, but the card is usually $2,500.00 alone. That's actually a smoking deal. I Am SciFi -onlooker.org Last edited by onlooker.org : 2005-10-19 at 11:53.
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in8 Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto	2005-10-19, 11:51 so for the $$ are these better buys than the old PMs?
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pazzo83 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Charlottesville, VA	2005-10-19, 11:53 What's the difference between ECC and non-ECC RAM?
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robin New Member Join Date: Oct 2005	2005-10-19, 11:53 So the two lower model PMacs (one dual core) are a bit hobbled as they share the bus whereas before they didn't have to (yes this is less efficient). Not that great an upgrade. The top model (quad) might be ok though over a dual 2.7.
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Bryson Rocket Surgeon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Canadark	2005-10-19, 11:53 Ah. Store is back up. �1800 for the top-of-the range model. +�167 for RAM. Ordered. Result.
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Bryson Rocket Surgeon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Canadark	2005-10-19, 12:09 Those prices were educational, btw. Interesting factoid: The Apple UK store just went back down for five minutes, and now you can also (but not on the main PowerMac Page) buy the old 2.7 Dual Processor for "if you need PCI-X". "...A smell of Petroleum prevails throughout..."
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phd Member Join Date: Sep 2005	2005-10-19, 12:11 I just made my purchase the Quad and a new 23inch I think I just peed my pants Now I have to wait a month That should give me enough time to clean my pants
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curiousuburb Antimatter Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: that interweb thing	2005-10-19, 12:11 WTF!!! if you max the RAM BTO from Apple, add USD $11900 to your Quad. Damn! If there's a reason to buy from Crucial or NewEgg save enough to buy another G5 Last edited by curiousuburb : 2005-10-19 at 12:19.
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Unbeliever Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Outland	2005-10-19, 12:11 They are also packing Mighty Mouse standard now
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kretara Cynical Old Bastard Join Date: May 2004 Location: The Hot, Hazey, Humid South	2005-10-19, 12:15 Hey, hold on a minute. The 2.0 and 2.3 PMs appear to be single processor (but dual core). thats kind of a step backwards isn't it? My excitement with the PM bump has gone down quite a bit.
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admactanium Member Join Date: Dec 2004	2005-10-19, 12:17 yay! just ordered one.
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Bryson Rocket Surgeon Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The Canadark	2005-10-19, 12:18 Well, that single, Dual-Core Processor is faster than the two previous separate processors. So....no, not a step back.
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jcoley2 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Darien CT	2005-10-19, 12:20 Hey, you notice that the 30" Cinema HD does not say it will suport this geForce 6600 card. . .only Radeon 9650 and x850 XT or GeForce 6800 DDL. Is that an oversight by Apple not updating their website in that area or do I have a problem?? The Quad area say this card will support dual 30".
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oldmacfan Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Mile 1	2005-10-19, 12:26 I thought I heard there would be 4 new video cards...
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