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WrestleEwe
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2006-03-27, 12:12

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WOW. he is a complete idiot. I am 15 years old and I could have easily fixed the problem in less than a hour.
wow, 15 yrs old, Linux admin AND second-hand ass-vibrator salesperson... damn
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2006-03-27, 12:19

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I'm SO SLOW. OMG IT HURTS.


Bastard.
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2006-03-27, 12:27

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wow, 15 yrs old, Linux admin AND second-hand ass-vibrator salesperson... damn
shutup. I'm almost halfway to 1,000. almost.
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BuonRotto
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2006-03-27, 13:18

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You also gotta love Comic Sans.
That says it all right there. Really.
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2006-03-27, 13:31

Suckers, I've disabled comic sans from my system…so unless an image has it, I'm comic free
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2006-03-27, 14:08

From the newspaper article about Jerry Taylor's appointment as city manager of Tuttle, Oklahoma http://www.tuttletimes.com/viewarticle.php?id=744 :

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He is also planning to build a city website, including a user-friendly automated system. The website could include information about city officials, agenda and minutes of meetings, a place to read ordinances, bill payments and building permit applications. Taylor has a background in computers, and build the city of Harrah’s website.

In addition to his time with the cities of Hugo and Harrah, Taylor spent 22 years working with E Systems as a program manager. Seventeen of those years were in Virginia, working on a classified government program. He has run his own computer business and worked for the Choctaw Electric Cooperative as their internet technologies manager [ ]. He also wrote grants for Little Dixie Community Action, a skill he has carried into his work with cities.

Taylor holds an masters in business administration from Averett University in Danville, Va.
Somehow, his supposed past experience with computers makes this whole episode even more depressing. The fact that he worked on a "classified government program" in Virginia... *sigh* ...I certainly hope it wasn't the CIA.

As to his *user-friendly* website, he invites people to click on his name to send him an e-mail. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I couldn't find anyplace on his entire page, including his name, where I could click to send him an email.

I just wanted to point out to him, in case - by some remote chance - it hadn't already been made abundantly clear, that his comments had become an internet laughingstock even across the Atlantic.

Maybe next time he'll be a little less rash when he interacts with *anyone* online, especially with computer geeks.
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2006-03-27, 16:43

Maybe he is lying about all that computer experience?
If so, maybe we could get his ass fired.
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2006-03-27, 16:45

I did thought that he was a product of a diploma mill...

I was amazed at how common people would fake their degree.

(Edited for RowdyScot)

Last edited by Banana : 2006-03-27 at 16:53.
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2006-03-27, 16:47

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Originally Posted by Kit Fisto
Maybe he is lying about all that computer experience?
If so, maybe we could get his ass fired.
I think he's probably already been humiliated enough for the current millennium.
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2006-03-27, 16:50

^English...raped... (that's to Banana)


This is as bad as those people that call you with some huge problem and end up with the only problem being an unplugged machine :/

Authentic Nova Scotia bagpipe innards
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2006-03-27, 16:55

I'll say this for his defense: everyone is so completely intimidated by computers and so overwhlemed with all these security problems that it's come to the point where folks just assume that anything unexpected must be malware. It's become a scapegoat at times, as ridiculous as that sounds.
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2006-03-27, 17:18

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Originally Posted by Windswept
Somehow, his supposed past experience with computers makes this whole episode even more depressing. The fact that he worked on a "classified government program" in Virginia... *sigh* ...I certainly hope it wasn't the CIA.

As to his *user-friendly* website, he invites people to click on his name to send him an e-mail. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I couldn't find anyplace on his entire page, including his name, where I could click to send him an email.

I just wanted to point out to him, in case - by some remote chance - it hadn't already been made abundantly clear, that his comments had become an internet laughingstock even across the Atlantic.

Maybe next time he'll be a little less rash when he interacts with *anyone* online, especially with computer geeks.
After seeing his work history, that sounds about par for the course. I work at a defense contractor, and trying to explain FTP to some of the big time systems engineers was completely pointless. Evidently reading and writing to files to a folder over a network is a very complex procedure.

"Slow vehicle speeds with frequent stops would signal traffic congestion, for instance."

uh... it could also signal that my Mom is at the wheel...
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2006-03-27, 18:24

The guy is a dope. What I'm more interested in, is whether or not the city of Tuttle has any ties to the infamous Capt. Tuttle of M*A*S*H fame.

...into the light of a dark black night.
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2006-03-27, 18:26

This is why I hate people.
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Moogs
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2006-03-27, 18:37



Holy crap that is funny...
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2006-03-27, 19:42

** UPDATE **

The Register has an email from Mr. Taylor, complaining about the bad press his story is giving him due to /., digg, and Register coverage...
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2006-03-27, 20:02

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The guy is a dope. What I'm more interested in, is whether or not the city of Tuttle has any ties to the infamous Capt. Tuttle of M*A*S*H fame.
That's what I was thinking as I read the emails.

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2006-03-27, 20:41

Sounds to me like he's been lying about previous experience... what a twat.
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2006-03-27, 21:20

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The developer went above and beyond IMHO.
Agreed!

Seriously, it's not the CentOS developer's job to pick up where the city of Turtle's IT department dropped the ball. It was very nice of him to be willing to help the guy out, especially after the repeated 'FBI' and 'hacking' threats. Personally, I would have told the guy to fuck off and started forwarding the thread of emails to the local publishers. (They just love incompetence in the government, let alone incompetence coming from someone with over "20 years of systems engineering" experience. :rollseyes: )

In the end, the CentOS developer took out his own spare time, and effort, and saw the 'trouble' through to the end to make sure everything turned out well. Even when it was clearly not his problem. And for that, my hat is tilted in his direction. Good show!

no sig, how's that for being a rebel!
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2006-03-28, 00:34

Biggest pile-on EVAR.
Wonder how things are in Tuttle this week? Dude stepped in shit up to his shiny bald pate.
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2006-03-28, 02:07

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In the end, the CentOS developer took out his own spare time, and effort, and saw the 'trouble' through to the end to make sure everything turned out well. Even when it was clearly not his problem. And for that, my hat is tilted in his direction. Good show!
If you don't see the problem with "I feel sorry for your city," then I don't know what to think. It's not his job to hold every angry customer's hand, but you don't lead-off with an insult. If you're going to insult the man, at least mask it a little better.

If every city council needs a geek, every Linux distro probably needs an HR specialist.
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2006-03-28, 02:39

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If you don't see the problem with "I feel sorry for your city," then I don't know what to think. It's not his job to hold every angry customer's hand, but you don't lead-off with an insult. If you're going to insult the man, at least mask it a little better.

If every city council needs a geek, every Linux distro probably needs an HR specialist.
But that's just it, he was not an angry customer, he was just angry.

In this case, the developer was not dealing with a customer. He was dealing with an angry, pushy, member of the Turtle community that signed up for a web service that just so happens to use CentOS to serve their pages.

Better example yet, even the hosting company that was at fault for the mis-configured web servers is not a CentOS customer.

That's something to think about, this was not a client to service provider... or a customer to support agent... no... this was a very nice developer (considering he could have been unhelpful altogether) taking the same spare time he spends working on a free (as in freedom) OS to help out a clearly frustrated (and random) person.

(And with that in mind, the "I feel sorry for your city" comment is within the range of what response could be expected if the same outrageous accusations were made in a CentOS (community based) IRC chat room. Or any other distro's support channels for that matter. )

no sig, how's that for being a rebel!
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2006-03-28, 03:26

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But that's just it, he was not an angry customer, he was just angry.

In this case, the developer was not dealing with a customer.
Every non-customer is a potential future customer. Treat them as such.

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(And with that in mind, the "I feel sorry for your city" comment is within the range of what response could be expected if the same outrageous accusations were made in a CentOS (community based) IRC chat room. Or any other distro's support channels for that matter. )
That doesn't put the community in better light.
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2006-03-28, 07:46

I can pretty much promise you that after that first e-mail, the developer could be 100% confident that this man was never going to be a potential customer.

He had zero knowledge of what was going on.

Basically this guy jumped all over a developer for what is basically a hobby type project. They don't sell it, it's not a "product" in a traditional sense.

Google is your frenemy.
Caveat Emptor - Latin for tough titty
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2006-03-28, 09:37

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Biggest pile-on EVAR.
Wonder how things are in Tuttle this week? Dude stepped in shit up to his shiny bald pate.


Isn't it great? Oh man I love poetic justice. This guy is probably getting about 800 emails a day telling him what a putz he was to handle the problem the way he did, now he's trying to enlist the register to clear his name. What a jackass. Autoexec.nimrod

...into the light of a dark black night.
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2006-03-28, 09:39

This is actually a good lesson for everyone. E-mail is FOREVER.
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2006-03-28, 09:40

It's true. This guy with "20 years of experience" just learned a powerful lesson about the inter-web-space-net. Next time ask, don't accuse. And if you must accuse, use a bogus alias and email address. He probably considers his punchcard maintenance job in the 80s as "IT experience".

...into the light of a dark black night.
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murbot
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2006-03-28, 09:47

Yeah he's wishing he never used his computer web screen to call that guy's email number and threaten him.
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2006-03-28, 10:48

Get this web site off my homepage!!!! It is blocking access to my website!!!!~!

Such threats will become legend.
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2006-03-28, 13:34

I work for a University (in I.T. )and also have to interface with the State governemnt.
I can't tell you how many times I've seen shit like this.
I had to work with an Oracle admin (claimed 15 years experience) that had no idea how to import a .csv file into a database. It literally took me 4 weeks (filled with nasty emails from the DBA and his bosses) to teach this idiot how to import a .csv file into a database.

I really hate people too.

It would be nice if something good came out of this shitstorm for the City of Tuttle, but I very much doubt that much will happen.
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