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I was thinking about this today. All of the reading I've done on future Intel processors and in the WWDC prediction thread prompted me to think about what could happen near MWSF (the time frame that I am hoping to be able to afford a new Mac). This is mainly stuff that I’ve read from all of you typing. I’ve tried to research processors, but future processor information is patchy. We’ll probably never see most of this.
Desktops: Mac mini (three models) 1.66GHz Merom (BYODKM) $499 512MB RAM 60GB hard drive Superdrive 1.83GHz Merom (BYODKM) $599 512MB RAM 80GB hard drive Superdrive 2.00GHz Merom (w/Apple Keyboard & Mighty Mouse) $799 1GB RAM 100GB hard drive Superdrive Mac (three models) This is the headless wonder that so many of us want. Includes keyboard & mouse. All models have dedicated graphics, single optical bay (user replaceable), and room for two hard drives. Can handle up to 8GB RAM. 2 PCI slots. 1 used for video. 2.4 GHz Conroe ($999) 1GB RAM 250GB hard drive Superdrive 2.67GHz Conroe ($1099) 1GB RAM 250GB hard drive DL Superdrive Kentsfield (??GHz) ($1299) 1GB RAM 500GB hard drive DL Superdrive (Blu-Ray/HD-DVD burner/DVD burner/CD burner as a BTO) Mac Pro (three models) 2.33 GHz Woodcrest ($1599) 1GB RAM 500GB hard drive DL Superdrive Cloverton (?? GHz) ($2499) 2GB RAM 500GB hard drive DL Superdrive Dual Cloverton (?? GHz) ($3299) 4GB RAM 750GB hard drive Blu-Ray/HD-DVD burner/DVD burner/CD burner All-In-Ones: iMac (three models): 2.4GHz Conroe 17” (w/ integrated graphics) ($899) 512MB RAM 160GB hard drive Superdrive 2.67GHz Conroe 20” ($1299) 1GB RAM 250GB hard drive DL Superdrive Black Kentsfield (?? GHz) 23” ($1999) 23” HD display 1GB RAM 500GB harddrive DL Superdrive (BTO option: Blu-Ray/HD-DVD burner/DVD burner/CD burner) Notebooks: MacBook (three models) 13” Merom 2.0GHz ($1099) 512MB RAM 60GB hard drive [Edit] Combo Drive [/Edit] 13” Merom 2.0GHz($1299) 512MB RAM 60GB hard drive Superdrive Black 13” Merom 2.16GHz w/ dedicated graphics ($1499) 1GB RAM 80GB hard drive DL Superdrive MacBook Pro (three models) 15” Merom 2.16GHz 1GB RAM 100GB hard drive DL Superdrive 15” Merom 2.33GHz 1GB RAM 100 GB hard drive DL Superdrive 17” Merom 2.33GHz 2GB RAM 120 GB hard drive DL Superdrive Displays: Apple Cinema Display (two models) 20” 23” Apple Cinema Pro Display (three models) 20” 23” 30” Apple Media-Center: I don’t really know what kind of specs or price points to put on these. Conroe Kenstfield Out of this lineup, I’d have a hard time deciding what to buy. The 23” iMac vs. the Kentsfield Mac would be a tough choice to make. I’d take the black MacBook, and a Media Center. Last edited by MacConvert : 2006-07-23 at 13:03. Reason: Changed optical drive for entry MacBook |
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2 Macbooks have same specs but different price?
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Also, Apple has never used DL SuperDrives as a higher-end version of a SuperDrive. The SuperDrive is either DL, or it's not (if not, usually for space reasons).
And if Apple introduced a $999+ Conroe-based headless desktop, I don't think the Mac Pro would start at $1,599. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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Yep, that would be nice. I'd buy a new Mini.
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Thats too many in my opinion.
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It would be nice if we could get off the pipe dreaming regarding a head-less mid-end Mac.
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re: the headless mac- why not just have a v. high spec mac mini joining up to a low spec mac pro, and then an iMac that sits in between those specs just overlapping on either side. So you get a full headless line up without a random one in the middle which would be a really awkward sitter.
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Because having a headless Mac with a price point close to that of the iMac would eat into iMac sales.
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Can someone please tell me what a "headless" Mac is?
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Power Mac Both of these are "headless" Macs because they do not have built-in displays. |
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It's either a mac that doesn't comes with a monitor included (e.g. a PowerMac or Mac Mini is headless whereas iMac is AIO or All in One) or a computer that headless horseman likes to use.
Take your pick. |
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Haha. Thank you Brand and Banana. Been reading stuff here and couldn't figure that one out for the life of me. Sorry to hijack the thread a bit.
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Roboman -- The difference in the displays is that the Cinema Pro is HD, and the Cinema is not. That was the only way I could think of differentiating between a pro, and a consumer display. I needed an excuse for Apple to sell a lower priced display while maintaining what professionals want. |
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there should be only two macbooks one white one black. They should move the black macbook right now up to a 13.3in Macbook Pro with like you said, a dedicated graphics card. Plus all new Macbook Pros will sport a new enclosure according to Thinksecret. Then it would be just like the good old days. 13.3inch powerbook(not 12), $1499, 15.4inch, 1999$, and a 17inch, $2499, all with more BTO options or they could raise the prices by 100$ each if they want. Oh yea and drop the other 15in. Whats the point of having 2 15in? So now you have 2 Macbooks priced at 1099 and 1299, with white cheaper and black higher end. And you have the old line up again that I just said. On apple's website it said the family is now complete so this could happen cause all I did was update the already completed Macbook and Macbook pros.
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I don't think that line up is too big. It makes sense for a company that needs to break the 5% of market share barrier.
I would like to see Apple come up with a REAL eBook though. Do for eBooks what iPods did for mp3 players. The eBook could use the sensative screen tech that has been patented recently and would be different enough from the laptops and iPods to not cut into those sales. Time for an entirely new product line. The "Mother of All" Flip-flops. http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/ Support the Freedom of Information Act by using it ... support the troops by being an informed electorate! |
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The Mac mini cannibalized eMac sales. Did Apple care? As for the "too many models" argument, I don't think a three-tier + iMac product matrix is too complex. Right now, if you don't include the iMac (as you arguably shouldn't), there's a massive hole in Apple's desktop line. The days of the iMac being Apple's mass-market desktop are over, simply because while the iMac price has stayed constant, the average price of computers has not. I see the iMac more or less in its own line, filling its niche as Apple's flagship Mac for people who value simplicity (and for those interested in an Apple display, it's not a bad deal to boot). A three-tiered desktop line - Mac mini, "Mac," Mac Pro - would be about as simple as a desktop line can get without leaving any major holes. Three different desktops, at three different price points, in three different sizes, from small to large. What could be more Apple than that? and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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Does anybody think we will have Kentsfield in anything? and does anybody think that they will drop the price of conroes when Kentsfield comes out?
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I agree with Roboman on the canabalising sales argument. Surely its the bottom line that's important, and not the number of iMacs sold.
As for a high end Mac Mini, I dont think that would work well. Is there enough room to fit a decent GPU and HDD with comparible performance with 3.5" drives. |
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The argument is this: There is a market that isn't satisfied with the iMac - many people don't want an all-in-one. A $999 "headless" iMac would satisfy this market. The iMac would satisfy the people who want a simple, stylish, iPod-inspired computer. Different markets. Mac mini for $499. "Mac" for $999. Mac Pro for $1,999. Then, in it's own little line, in it's own row on the Apple Store website, the iMac. $1,299. You can't just label both the iMac and the mid-range headless Mac as "Desktops" and assume that they go after the same market. They wouldn't. and i guess i've known it all along / the truth is, you have to be soft to be strong |
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What about the hardware company angle?
Apple would make more money off iMac than a headless Mac, no? If they went and made a headless Mac, what is going to make them anything but a white Dell? |
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