Stallion
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Milwaukee
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Anyone ever use this piece of software? Supposedly it is awesome, but I have done nothing but fight with it all night.
Does anyone know why when I try to connect a line to a "relation" triangle, it completely shifts all of my pieces around automatically? WTF is with that? I have spent more time trying to stop the software from doing irritating automatic shifting of entities than I have of actually doing productive work with it! For what its worth, I'm trying to do some very basic UML modeling. Blargh. - Frustrated in Milwaukee ...and calling/e-mailing/texting ex-girlfriends on the off-chance they'll invite you over for some "old time's sake" no-strings couch gymnastics... |
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: UK
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Have you got automatic layout turned on? Should be at the bottom of the inspector in Canvas: Diagram Layout.
If it's on, try turning it off. If that's not checked, it shouldn't move things about on your behalf. Euain |
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Ooh, I *love* Omnigraffle. One of my fav. apps. around.
But yeah, it shouldn't be shifting objects for you, I don't think I've ever had mine do that, so it would either be a property of the object int he file, or an option you have enabled that I've always had turned off. Google is your frenemy. Caveat Emptor - Latin for tough titty I tend to interpret things in the way that's most hilarious to me |
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Stallion
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Milwaukee
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It appears to be doing a random Arrange->Diagram Layout->Lay out entire canvas whenever I try to draw a line segment between two objects.
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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That is exactly the behavior euain talked about! And I have seen it too.
1) Turn on the Inspector with the widget in the upper right of the OG document. 2) Toggle Inspector -> Canvas to arrow down (opening it) 3) Click on the farthest right icon at the top of the Canvas section you just opened. The text in the Inspector will change to Canvas: Diagram Layout 4) de-check that big ugly checkbox at the top, Automatic Layout 5) there is no #5! |
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Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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I've had a problem getting this to work right for me. I'm wanting to map out my network topography and just failing miserably. What should I set to allow me to create a tree structure showing the flow and layout of my network with names and images for the components?
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Personally I turn off the auto-layout, I generally don't want stuff moving about while I am adding things.
You can use any of the default shapes or stencils, most of them include interior text fields. You can fine ready-made free networking stencil sets here, Graffletopia has others too. Dump them in ~/Library/Application Support/OmniGraffle/Stencils. For connection control go to Inspector -> Properties:Connections. Highlight the widget you want to connect to and adjust the connection magnets to suit the need. |
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Join Date: May 2004
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Turn off auto-layout until you get everything hooked up, then trigger a single auto-layout.
You don't have to worry about getting it pretty, just getting it dumped onto the screen. Let it do the shuffling around. |
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Formerly turtle2472 Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Upstate South Carolina
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Ok, I'll try those out because it was just getting to be a nightmare and taking way to much time just so I had a map of my network. I even tried Visio and didn't get far with it either.
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Join Date: May 2004
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Also, try using the networking stencil for what you're doing.
To add a label to any object or shape, just double-click it. You can adjust the placement of the label in the object's Inspector. |
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Stallion
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Milwaukee
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I have a hunch I'm not using the software correctly at all. ...and calling/e-mailing/texting ex-girlfriends on the off-chance they'll invite you over for some "old time's sake" no-strings couch gymnastics... |
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2004
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If the arrows become "disconnected", it means they were not "connected" in the first place. An arrow will show a red circle at the tail-end and a green circle at the head-end when it is actually attached to the widget magnets (connection points). When a line is not connected the indicators will be solid dots, not circles.
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Join Date: May 2004
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If I'm reading that right, your 'class information' is not part of the shape, right? Say, like, you've got a box, and then you add a bunch of text objects on top of it, then connect a line to the box, then auto-layout, and the text objects fly elsewhere, right?
The box is the only thing that was connected to. Group any objects you want to keep together as a unit, connect the line, then layout, and the whole unit will stick together. And, if by class information you mean UML... try using the Software Stencils. They have UML diagramming bits. (Menu item Stencils -> Software -> UML-General) |
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