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2006-12-26, 06:52

I found this a little amusing, and am glad to be on the very top tier!



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2006-12-26, 07:44

I'm obviously and without doubt at the very top, because I use (gasp!) multiple languages, believing in "right tool for the right job".



And Java sucks.

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2006-12-26, 08:21

I like all the double-headed arrows.

ADA, Pascal and Java programmers don't consider themselves superior to VB and JS programmers?
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2006-12-26, 10:11

This isn't entirely accurate... I'm an OO PHP developer, and I consider myself superior to python programmers

Though, I also know Ruby and Scheme pretty well... Maybe that's why I think Python is gross

I really have nothing to put here, but I feel it's rather strange to not have one.
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2006-12-26, 10:21

I'm probably somewhere near the bottom.

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2006-12-26, 10:46

^ Ditto.
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2006-12-26, 10:55

If you can't do it in COBOL, then does it really need to be done?
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2006-12-26, 11:03

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If you can't do it in COBOL, then does it really need to be done?
Is that a question, or a snippet of COBOL code?
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2006-12-26, 11:15

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I'm obviously and without doubt at the very top, because I use (gasp!) multiple languages, believing in "right tool for the right job".
Same

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And Java sucks.
"Saying Java is great because it's cross-platform is like saying anal sex is great because it's cross-gender."
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2006-12-26, 11:20

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"Saying Java is great because it's cross-platform is like saying anal sex is great because it's cross-gender."
I want the T-Shirt!!
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2006-12-26, 11:23

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"Saying Java is great because it's cross-platform is like saying anal sex is great because it's cross-gender."
So only homosexuals don't like Java?
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2006-12-26, 11:27

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"Saying Java is great because it's cross-platform is like saying anal sex is great because it's cross-gender."


This thread rocks.
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2006-12-26, 14:06

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So only homosexuals don't like Java?
I'm frantically trying to think of an appropriate metaphor for the virtual machine, but I've had too much Barolo.
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2006-12-26, 14:14

Boot Camp = Bisexual. Hmm. This deserves more thought.
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2006-12-26, 14:20

I like what we've done with this thread
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2006-12-26, 14:32

At first I thought computers were asexual, but then realized they had all those 1s and 0s.... much more than you possibly ever could shake a stick at.
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2006-12-26, 14:35

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I found this a little amusing, and am glad to be on the very top tier!



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That list is stupid. Theres only 10 types of programmers, ones that understand binary, and ones that don't.

Im sorry. I just got Jokes: 1987 from my bookshelf.
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2006-12-26, 14:37

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At first I thought computers were asexual, but then realized they had all those 1s and 0s.... much more than you possibly ever could shake a stick at.
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That list is stupid. Theres only 10 types of programmers, ones that understand binary, and ones that don't.

Im sorry. I just got Jokes: 1987 from my bookshelf.
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2006-12-26, 15:09

Wait, wait, wait...

Where are the programming language researchers?

Oh right. Next level of abstraction, just above a little box that says 'Programmers - see Infighting graph'

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2006-12-26, 15:26

Seems completely arbitrary to me. Perl and Ruby above practically everything? Javascript and PHP above Java?

And why LISP when many institutions around the world use it to teach entry-level CS? My first classes were taught in Pascal and MIT Scheme.
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2006-12-26, 15:29

The list is also missing perhaps the most important programming languages of all: TI calculator BASIC and Z80 assembly...

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2006-12-26, 15:44

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Seems completely arbitrary to me. Perl and Ruby above practically everything? Javascript and PHP above Java?

And why LISP when many institutions around the world use it to teach entry-level CS? My first classes were taught in Pascal and MIT Scheme.
Remember, this is in order of superiority, not reality (Though, I'd pick Javascript and PHP over Java any day of the week).

Have you ever spoken to a Lisp Programmer? Just because it's taught first doesn't mean it's not an... egotistic language.

I really have nothing to put here, but I feel it's rather strange to not have one.
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2006-12-26, 16:26

Who thought it would be a good idea to put an 's' in lisp? Ridiculous.
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2006-12-26, 16:29

"Lisp" is not just a descriptive word, it's also a test.
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2006-12-26, 19:20

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If you can't do it in COBOL, then does it really need to be done?
Damn COBOL I have to agree with the acronym Compiles Only By Odd Luck.

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I'm obviously and without doubt at the very top, because I use (gasp!) multiple languages, believing in "right tool for the right job".



And Java sucks.

I agree, except perhaps on the java front
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2006-12-26, 19:33

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The list is also missing perhaps the most important programming languages of all: TI calculator BASIC and Z80 assembly...

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After using a real 32-bit RISC embedded processor, I now realize how incredibly limited the z80 actually was. Holy cow, how did I ever write software for that?
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2006-12-26, 20:44

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Who thought it would be a good idea to put an 's' in lisp? Ridiculous.
The same person who came up with the spellings of 'illiterate' and 'dyslexia'.
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2006-12-26, 21:58

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Wait, wait, wait...

Where are the programming language researchers?

Oh right. Next level of abstraction, just above a little box that says 'Programmers - see Infighting graph'

No, they're on the special "full of it" box that you only see when you zoom in.
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2006-12-26, 22:22

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I'm obviously and without doubt at the very top, because I use (gasp!) multiple languages, believing in "right tool for the right job".
I'm right there with you. There is no prefect programming language and there are times when one language is far better suited for a job then another.

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And Java sucks.

I can't quite agree with you there but oh well I say the same about Visual Basic.
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2006-12-27, 02:29

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No, they're on the special "full of it" box that you only see when you zoom in.
Can't argue with you there.

OTOH, it does let me state with some weight that Java the language isn't horrible.

The *BYTECODE* system is freaking brain-dead, and should have stayed on the damned toasters, though.

My other brain is hung like a horse too.
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