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Microsoft just announced their new browser plug-in called Silverlight. Which seems to be their answers to Flash. It's cross-platform and runs in Safari and is capable of displaying full screen 720p WMV files. Microsoft is also hinting that parts of the .Net framework have been ported to OS X. Apparently NetFlix may be using this for their download service as well.
Microsoft's press release Some MS blogger guys post on it I'm all for anything MS does that includes us gentle Mac users from the get go. I'll let the real nerds here at AN weigh in on the technical junk. It's beyond me. |
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There's a lot of content out there that uses WMP DRM, so it'd be nice to have Mac support for that.
But I'm a little skeptical about their Mac support. WMP for Mac is terribly out of date, as was IE until its demise. I hope they don't shaft us once again. edit: Pretty logo You had me at asl ....... |
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Don't you think Microsoft will do what they usually do (cf. Internet Explorer, WMP, etc.): make it look all nice and rosy for Mac users for a while until companies start using the technology liberally, then slowly but surely start killing the Mac version, missing updates, etc. until Mac users have no choice but to switch to Windows to access content distributed with the tech, which by then will have become an industry standard?
For all Adobe's flaws, they don't have an OS to sell so they have more incentive to treat the different platforms equally. LOL! I see rasmits has an equally suspicious mind!  … engrossed in such factional acts as dreaming different dreams. Last edited by Dorian Gray : 2007-04-19 at 15:47. Reason: beaten by rasmits |
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Here's a link to a pre-release version of the plug-in. Any brave souls out there willing to try?
http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/downloads.aspx I'm also wary of MS after the dropped WMP support in favour of F4M. But maybe they dropped support of WMP knowing this was coming out soon. |
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So, if it's just XAML and JavaScript, that means it can easily get generated using virtually any XML-supporting library, right?
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Wow. Looks good. Bravo, Microsoft, not only for a simultaneous Mac release, but a universal binary at that.
Apple supporting Microsoft (iTunes, QuickTime) and Microsoft supporting Apple (WMV Player/F4M, Office, Silverlight) only means everyone wins. Logic, logic, logic. Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end. |
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No, Linux users don't seem to win
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Apple seems to be as well. No QuickTime nor iTunes for Linux, remember.
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I don't understand why Apple doesn't release iTunes and QuickTime for GNU/Linux. I know a handful of people in a situation where iTunes is the only application tying them to Windows. Weird, huh? Apple software is keeping some people on Windows! Crazy times we live in.  Logic, logic, logic. Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end. |
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Which would not necessarily be a good thing for Apple...
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Has this gone anywhere? I installed the RC in Safari 3 (beta in a beta, I know, asking for trouble) and nothing worked. I flipped through the little showcase on the promo site, and none of the links worked, except for the one to the Xbox 360 site, which caused a "Silverlight error." At least it didn't take down Safari. Logic, logic, logic. Logic is the beginning of wisdom, Valeris, not the end. |
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I haven't installed it. All I know is they're already dropping PowerPC support in version 1.1. So my earlier thread prediction is already coming true.
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But seriously, is MS really dropping support for PPC already? I hope that's not some kind of bad sign for the future with regards to Silverlight for Mac. EDIT: And Apple could actually probably pull it off really nicely, the whole web application framework. Last edited by iFerret : 2007-08-20 at 01:50. Reason: Added some more thoughts. There was more, but now I can't be arsed. |
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So I saw this advert for Silverlight and clicked on it..
It took me to a cool looking page which said I needed the plug in, and that I should 'click here' for that, and once it's installed I should quit my browser and re-visit this page.. So I did so. (I was quite pleased I would not have to re-boot my machine, and would not even have bothered looking at it if I had to). After re-launching Safari (which it had identified as my browser and said was compliant) I re-visted the page... I arrived at the same cool looking page which said I needed the plug in, and that I should 'click here' for that, and once it's installed I should quit my browser and re-visit this page.. So I did so. (I was quite pleased I would not have to re-boot my machine, and would not even have bothered looking at it if I had to). After re-launching Safari (which it had identified as my browser and said was compliant) I re-visted the page... I arrived at the same cool looking page which said I needed the plug in, and that I should 'click here' for that, and once it's installed I should quit my browser and re-visit this page.. So I did so. (I was quite pleased I would not have to re-boot my machine, and would not even have bothered looking at it if I had to). After re-launching Safari (which it had identified as my browser and said was compliant) I re-visted the page... I arrived at the same cool looking page which said I needed the plug in, and that I should 'click here' for that, and once it's installed I should quit my browser and re-visit this page.. So I did so. (I was quite pleased I would not have to re-boot my machine, and would not even have bothered looking at it if I had to). After re-launching Safari (which it had identified as my browser and said was compliant) I re-visted the page... I arrived at the same cool looking page which said I needed the plug in, and that I should 'click here' for that, and once it's installed I should quit my browser and re-visit this page.. So I did so. (I was quite pleased I would not have to re-boot my machine, and would not even have bothered looking at it if I had to). After re-launching Safari (which it had identified as my browser and said was compliant) I re-visted the page... I arrived at the same cool looking page which said I needed the plug in, and that I should 'click here' for that, and once it's installed I should quit my browser and re-visit this page.. So I did so. (I was quite pleased I would not have to re-boot my machine, and would not even have bothered looking at it if I had to). After re-launching Safari (which it had identified as my browser and said was compliant) I re-visted the page... I arrived at the same cool looking page which said I needed the plug in, and that I should 'click here' for that, and once it's installed I should quit my browser and re-visit this page.. So I did so. (I was quite pleased I would not have to re-boot my machine, and would not even have bothered looking at it if I had to). After re-launching Safari (which it had identified as my browser and said was compliant) I re-visted the page... I arrived at the same cool looking page which said I needed the plug in, and that I should 'click here' for that, and once it's installed I should quit my browser and re-visit this page.. ...... Great work MDollar! Happy April fools?!?!  'Remember, measure life by the moments that take your breath away, not by how many breaths you take' Extreme Sports Cafe | ESC's blog | scratt's blog | @thescratt |
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Evidently!
Overall as an install procedure it was pretty painless, and quite slick. I didn't actually get the software I wanted, nor get any better idea of what Silverlight is. But I don't have any viruses and nothing crashed. So overall that's a giant leap forward for MDollar IMHO! 'Remember, measure life by the moments that take your breath away, not by how many breaths you take' Extreme Sports Cafe | ESC's blog | scratt's blog | @thescratt |
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Never had problems installing Silverlight.
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I would be willing to bet it starts working after I reboot my machine.
But then my scatty squirrel like mind will have moved onto other things by then... |
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Well exactly. I was very pleasantly surprised that it didn't need me to format my HD or something.
I expect I'll get an ugly dialog in a few days with 'AutoUpdate' plastered all over it, and half a dozen useless 'Productivity Features' I can download. The dialog of course will be incredibly difficult to dismiss, and will crash Finder all the time when I try to right click on anything.. *sigh* btw. I got bored of using it but you can do this..  suxors! 'Remember, measure life by the moments that take your breath away, not by how many breaths you take' Extreme Sports Cafe | ESC's blog | scratt's blog | @thescratt |
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Silverlight has ruined MLB.tv, and I hope it dies a painful death!
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Téléjournal Montréal uses Silverlight. I actually think it works really well. My old PB can't handle many online videos anymore, but I have no problem playing their stuff fullscreen.
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