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Graceland is starting up again with summer episodes (on USA?), I think, this coming Wednesday, June 18.
"Graceland" is the name of a luxury beach home that was confiscated by the feds from people doing illegal activities. Most recently, it has been lived in by a small group of young-ish undercover agents from various different agencies, like DEA, ATF, FBI, and so forth - in case you have never seen this program. It has been a while since the last set of episodes and I've probably forgotten quite a bit. I do know I liked the program, because I suppose that there are real-life people who live undercover just as these do, and who put their lives on the line as part of their daily job, to seek out information about ongoing criminal syndicates. I wonder how true-to-life these storylines might be. They are dramatic and often tense for the viewer. I don't see how people could live lives like these, but I guess they'd be great for adrenaline junkies. Anyone else plan to catch a few of the new Graceland episodes? |
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They're doing a huge holiday weekend marathon of The Walking Dead on AMC. I've been able to catch up on episodes from the second and third season that I missed, so that's nice.
I still can't believe the stuff this show gets away with on TV! ![]() I do have to say, watching several in a row for the first time, there are some dumbasses on this show. They bring a lot of trouble on themselves, acting the way some of them do. A few of them, I don't mind getting offed in whatever way comes. People that stupid/careless generally get what's coming to them in that world. They keep trusting strangers, and then certain characters will just go wandering alone through the woods or an abandoned building for no apparent reason. That's the one part about the show that I don't like, and that often takes me out of it. I can't help but think "no sane, rational person would act this way if this scenario was real...". But it's a fictional TV drama, which means things have to happen to ramp up the tension and sense of danger/dread. I get that, but after a while you just stop feeling bad for certain characters and just hope they get eaten already. ![]() Looking forward to the fifth season this fall... |
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Just watched the three seasons of Homeland in the last week.
Holy hell what a good show. Now I have nothing to watch now until the fall. |
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Duuude. I've been wondering what to get into for the next little while. I've been avoiding TV due to burnout after binging on Game of Thrones. (which I loved BTW, to hell with you bookies)
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Dude, it's an incredible show. Such solid writing and acting.
I"m glad they're writing the daughter's role down a bit. She's an annoying little bitch. No more Twitter. It's Mastodon now. |
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But but... what about Falling Skies, Tom Mason?
![]() ![]() I'm not 100% sure but this show seems to have veered from merely absurd into "enjoyable train wreck" territory. Like, so terrible in all respects, you can't stop watching it. That this show takes itself seriously is the funniest part. I forget who gets the credit for coming up with the plotline on this show, but they're really pretty terrible at their job. Even for an alien invasion show the amount of random and totally illogical shit that happens, and the absurd plot cliches that get introduced at the rate of about one per episode, is unmatched in recent TV history. See also: Hitler Youth in this season's episodes; Faraday Suit building S. Africans magically transported across an ocean after the invasion that trashes all of earths infrastructure; Enchanted Teleportation Stone that allows aliens to use the power of the One Ring and the fiery volcanoes of Mordor; randomly appearing mutated children; an alien hybrid baby aging at about 1 year per month that is now a full-blown X-men character complete with angry weather controlling abilities), and more. This year's clincher so far though was Tom Mason, jumping off what appeared to be a 4th or 5th story apartment balcony to avoid physics-defying vertically climbing spider-aliens about to be entombed by the same apartment building, which will be demolished at any moment... and then as the camera zooms out the explosion "propels" him about 30 yards laterally, out over the edge of a river... where upon he falls the 40 or 50 feet, into about 5 feet of water... and lives. Like a little slice of Demolition Diorama heaven. Because we see him a couple scenes later, no broken brones, nothing. ![]() You all need to watch this show before it gets cancelled. I fully expect within two episodes there will be a Jack Bauer character who enters the fray, a member of the Fantastic 4, and possibly a T-Rex. ...into the light of a dark black night. Last edited by Moogs : 2014-07-14 at 09:48. |
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I watched a show called "The Strain" last night. I think it's a vampire(?) type deal, set in modern day NYC. It was kinda neat. It was the premiere episode (on FX). I'll continue watching unless/until it gets lame. Apparently based on a book(s) and Guillermo del Toro has something to do with it (he wrote the book, and/or directed last night's episode).
Had a bit of an "X Files" slow-burn vibe to it, and 2-3 genuine creepy moments. For someone who isn't a fan or follower or horror/gore, I wind up watching (and liking) these crazy shows with vampires, zombies and serial killers. Go figure. |
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Or, another annoying thing during a detective search is that she (Beckett from 'Castle', for example) always seems to be wearing shoes that make loud clunking sounds as she creeps through a quiet building. Can't she find shoes with rubber soles so that she doesn't have to go clop clop clopping through quiet dark buildings? And if the building/house is dark (which it always is), the detectives never turn the lights on. All very annoying when people's lives are supposedly on the line; but, as you said, Paul, the director has to have conflict and dramatic tension to keep the viewer involved. A really good show won't have the detective making stupid mistakes, but will still find ways to build tension. And it would be nice to see people running for their lives without always having to fall, at which point, the killer catches up with them. They always fall, every single time. So annoying. I just saw that Alex Cross movie again, with all the women in an underground dungeon, and when Ashley Judd ran, she fell because she kept looking back every two seconds. At least she jumped off a cliff and got away, so that was nice. |
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I wanted to watch that (I think it was a book originally?) but my wife won't watch it with me. ![]() |
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We watched the first episode of Orphan Black last night. Good stuff. It had a bit of "Dollhouse" feel to it and I loved that show. Anyone else watching it?
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I've never heard of it. Just now read about it.
Man, the major networks are dead. I'm not a big TV guy, but what little I watch is on FX, AMC, USA, TNT or Syfy. Anytime I flip past the 3-4 major networks, I'm just astounded at how lame everything is. It's one of the following: - "Competition reality", where a bunch of annoying 20-somethings act like screaming jerks and crybabies over some piss-ant gig/position - Overwrought medical and crime dramas with impossibly attractive people acting all grim and bleak, speaking in tough-talk jargon - Comedies that aren't funny, including all those shot-on-film/no-laughtrack ones that seem to be the trend now...all "ironic" and "quirky", like a 22-minute Doritos Super Bowl commercial. No thanks. I do admit, however, to still getting a total laugh/jolt from that old chestnut Cops. ![]() Nothing makes me laugh harder, and I absolutely love seeing brainless, lying lowlifes getting nabbed for doing brainless, lowlife stupid stuff. That never gets old. I love to hear their stories/excuses (none of them are ever real/legit, of course, but I appreciate the on-the-spot creativity and commitment..."naw, man...this ain't my car/gun/weed/crackpipe/knife/ID/bloody shirt/shoes/grenade...it's my cousin's! No, I don't know his name, officer...we ain't close"). I love to see what they're wearing. I love how some people simply can't/won't just do what they're told. So many people on that show wind up going to jail - and all that it entails - because they just couldn't a) follow a simple command ("keep your hands out of your pockets", "stay in the car", etc.), and b) shut their mouths for five minutes (and not challenge/antagonize the cops; like it or not, that's never going to go your way). Sit there, shut up and do what you're told and you'll probably be sent on your way with a ticket - or maybe just a warning? - in many instances (rolling through a stop sign, a broken brake light, etc.). But noooooo...there's always gotta be a belligerent, oblivious hardcase/bad-ass who has to elevate everything. I can always tell who's going to wind up sprayed/tased/cuffed 'n' stuffed..."ooh, he's talking a little too much and a little too loud for just a broken tail light...I give it three minutes before he's on the ground, underneath 5-6 cops." ![]() It's the ultimate feel-good/pick-me-up show, because no matter how weird, bent and off-track your life gets sometimes, you can always say "hey, I'm not that shirtless, methed-out dickwit running down the street, seconds from being tased on national TV...so I've got that going for me." ![]() |
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Huge Orphan Black fan here, I think it's well worth watching. First season is often hilarious, you don't realize at first how funny this show can be. Leading actress does a stunning job of creating distinct personas, makes it possible to relax and experience the premise without getting reminded that you're watching one person with different hairdos.
Second season gets a bit into the weeds plotting wise (nothing wrong, exactly, just has to spend a lot of time with running around various threads and it detracts a bit from the shows central pleasures) but still very engrossing. But most importantly, actually manages to deliver overall "mystery" arch against episode to episode "revelations" in a way that is satisfying and doesn't invest too much into huge, mind boggling shit that you reckon will never really be resolved. Really, other trick show, take note. You don't need secrets at the heart of the universe to keep our interest, you just need compelling characters and witty dialogue and worked out episodic plot. It's been renewed for a third season and I have no concerns that they'll have to make up some unreasonable shit to kill time, because the characters and performances are already more than enough to keep me watching even if we already know exactly what's going on. That which doesn't kill you weakens you slightly and makes you less able to cope until you're completely incapacitated |
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And another instance of irritating nonsense on The Strain:
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On the other hand, it sounds like things are going to get really crazy really fast, so that might be fun.
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The entire movie Prometheus was built on that, in fact. People smart enough to pilot a ship through space (and all that it entails), land on a planet and instantly become completely stupid and careless for two hours. Man, that was a goofy movie. It looked amazing (some of those shots throughout were incredible), but I wanted everyone in it eaten or blown up after about 50 minutes of watching. Except Ms. Rapace. I'll cut her a break, because...well... ![]() |
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I honestly think there's some kind of fatal hype thing happening, where fatuous, glib people get each other pumped up over bullshit and high five everybody in the room because MONSTERS and EXPLOSIONS and TITS and they actually, genuinely are incapable of keeping track of how actual people act. Also, not to dump too hard on The Strain because it seems like it doesn't take itself too seriously and might be a good ride nonsense notwithstanding, but Spoiler (click to toggle):
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![]() I can't believe you just wrote that because I had that exact conversation not 24 hours ago, and said the same thing. I think it was Neil Diamond's "Sweet Caroline" playing when the coroner/medical examiner guy got his. I think I first noticed this with The X Files, ages ago. But it's been done a lot, for sure. A recent, silly example of this is Insidious, which used Tiny Tim's "Tiptoe Through the Tulips" in a few places. Thing is though, it didn't work there because Tiny Tim and that song are both creepy/unsettling enough already. So it just kinda canceled itself out, vs. "made a creepy scene even more so". I remember sitting there thinking "of all the songs/artists available...". ![]() My biggest gripe about The Strain was... Spoiler (click to toggle):
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Exactly. Between them opening that weird casket (that had no records or manifest) with no protective gear, and then that goofball coroner examining all these bodies and performing autopsies that same way, I thought "come on...". At the very least he'd have on a mask and some other stuff, if not full-level gear. And in this situation, there would likely be others with him, to observe and notate, or to help (200+ bodies for one guy is a quite a workload).
And the cockpit thing is interesting...that's a good point. The door should've been locked if everyone was dead or incapacitated, so it being open made it a bit puzzling, or pointed to the possibility of someone lurking around. I'm looking forward to the next episode. I'll always give things an opening shot and go from there. Usually the second or third episode is where it truly shines or fizzles (for me). I'm hoping it stays interesting and creepy. I'd like to have something on Sundays to hold me over until October... |
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Getting ready for episode two of The Strain here in another 40 minutes. We'll see...I figure by the end of this episode I'll either be hooked/all-in, or totally lose interest. Last week was the big 90-minute setup/foundation, so there needs to be some payoff this week...some questions answered, a bit of backstory/exposition, general vampiric mayhem, random farm-buying, etc. I don't want a an hour of people in hazmat suits acting stupid (and still ignoring that old man).
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If you haven't seen the train wreck that is Falling Skies lately, you have 30 minutes to prepare your mind for some "so bad it's funny" entertainment the likes of which you haven't since... like... The Phantom Menace or something. Although I guess technically it was more infuriating than anything else.
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OK, I'll watch it again next week. I want to see the onset of chaos, although I suspect they'll take their sweet time. Still, the creep factor is pretty high (nothing I haven't seen before, but reasonably well done). Not quite as much stupid as last week.
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I liked it. I'll watch next week. Yeah, I couldn't care less about the custody and AA stuff.
I liked that jail scene between the two men talking through the glass. Some history there, obviously. They were pushing the limits of basic cable nudity with rocker dude's foursome! The little French girl finally did what we all knew she was going to. ![]() |
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I sometimes wonder about those "right up to the edge" scenes of semi-nudity. It must take some very careful blocking and camera placement to get that sense of naked people cavorting without quite showing any naught bits. And yeah, the jail scene was great. I loved the long finger press to the glass and the creaking sounds, like the whole pane was about to give way. I liked that they left it at that, that there wasn't a fingerprint etched into the glass, or frost, or something. I wonder how long it will take before things spread enough to cause general alarm? Often contagion and zombie type movies depend on very rapid onset to enhance the drama-- like things have gone totally to hell before anyone is really even starting to come up to speed, and it creates a sense of helplessness and dread, of being overrun in mid-stride, and then abruptly having to deal with survival when you don't even know what the hell has gone down. But I get the feeling it's going to be quite a few weeks before things start to seriously fall apart, if not the entire first season just setting that up. I can only stand so much people in charge being total idiots, refusing to take even basic precautions, before I demand to see them torn limb from limb in a demonstration of poetic justice. That which doesn't kill you weakens you slightly and makes you less able to cope until you're completely incapacitated |
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Yeah, their CDC boss(?) is a supreme assbag. And now they've got the HHS secretary playing along. You'd think, of all people, they'd be the two being most careful and pragmatic. The blame for all the hell that's about to break loose can be laid squarely at the feet of these two morons, in addition to the hardcase, surly van driver and Samwise.
If none of these four people acted the way they have (and did the things they've done), this would be a somewhat-contained, airport-only incident/crisis. And I hate to be "that guy", but what's with the hyper-bitchy, completely unlikeable female characters all over the place?! The lead character's wife is an awful human being (you just know she watches Oprah and reads Gwyneth Paltrow's blog ![]() ![]() Other than van driver's mom, there isn't a pleasant, likable female character anywhere. Even the lead character's CDC partner is a bit cold and off-putting (but at least she's acting right in regards to the crisis, exhibiting some common sense and backbone, making up for the lack of it in everyone around her). The men on this show are dumb, corrupt and/or ball-less (except for the old guy who knows what's up), but the women are off the charts! Jury's still out on rocker dude's manager/agent(?). She kinda had a neat vibe, like she's incapable of being offended and is no longer shocked by horrible behavior. Much of this reminds me of a Stephen King story/characters...everyone's clearly drawn and fills in the various checkboxes for character traits and quirks, and the mundane, day-to-day is highlighted and played-up so you know what each character's underlying strengths, weaknesses and values are before it all hits the fan. I've not read the books, but I'm gonna predict the van driver redeems himself and becomes a Daryl Dixon fan-favorite type. With his Mom, he showed he wasn't just all hardcore and "street", so he'll probably step up and be a vampire-killing machine (holding his pistol sideways and making tough-guy quips with each kill). And you can see the overlapping and how they're slowly bleeding into each other's lives, a la Avengers team-building. At some point, van driver is gonna meet up with old man (returning the stolen radio?), and then they'll hook up with the CDC duo, etc. They're painting that rich old man's assistant to be a thoughtful, noble type, so I can imagine he might factor in big at some point. He's already suspicious of the German with the box, and their motives. Assuming he makes it out of that warehouse ramp area alive, he'll have helpful info to share with the CDC leads ("this old man I work for arranged for this box to be brought to him; I saw some creepy shit!") ![]() Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2014-07-21 at 07:40. |
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Nobody's been watching this, huh? I look forward to my Sunday 10pm viewing. It's now a full eight episodes in (out of 12 total), and things have really picked up over the last couple. Last week was a good "confined quarters" type of episode, where the leads were holed up in a gas station, surrounded by all these recently-turned creatures who were getting more aggressive about breaking in. Some nice tension throughout...I'm a fan of that sort of setup (single room/no way out scenarios...very tense and nail-biting).
This show will end in four more weeks, dovetailing perfectly into the season five premiere of "The Walking Dead". I think these final 3-4 episodes are going to be wild. This is freakier than most vampire stories, simply because of how easy the virus is spread, and that slow transformation process where people are in that "halfway world" between "not quite human/not quite fully turned", and some of the makeup and other effects have been really something. Like "The Walking Dead", some really solid work on a TV budget/scale! Always impressed. Speaking of which, Rick Baker had a small cameo in last week's episode, as a customer in the gas station. I thought it was him when I saw him, and then he turned his head and you saw his long ponytail. Definitely him, confirmed via IMDB. BTW, I'm taking a little road trip in about a month, down to Georgia, to visit some of the Walking Dead shooting locations and towns. I'm looking forward to it. I'd love to bump into Melissa McBride (Carol) somewhere! ![]() ![]() |
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