[Ryan]

Does anyone know how to make the symbols for French ordinals? Typically they’re shown as 1er, 2e, 3e with the suffix raised up. I haven’t been able to find anything in the special characters palette so I’m hoping someone here has the answer.

[Gargoyle]

Is that not just done using normal superscript?

[Brad]

I did some poking around, and it looks like these aren't easily accessible, assuming they exist at all as discrete characters and don't just rely on using an editor that supports superscript. The closest I could find is that in some cases people type º (option-zero) as in 1º, 2º, and 3º to indicate primo, secundo, and tertio.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Gargoyle Is that not just done using normal superscript?

I was hoping set at least a few up as system-wide text substitutions, but it doesn’t appear to support formatting. I was hoping these existed as their own symbols to get around that.

[Kickaha]

I guess this isn't any different than 1st, 2nd, etc, in English, right?

I'd use the Unicode degree sign as Brad suggested, and then let it vary with the font to match the numeral.

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Kickaha I guess this isn't any different than 1st, 2nd, etc, in English, right?

As I understand it, that's correct.

Originally Posted by Kickaha I'd use the Unicode degree sign as Brad suggested, and then let it vary with the font to match the numeral.

FWIW, that's actually an ordinal indicator, which is a superscript letter o, not a degree mark.

Here are the two side-by-side, with the degree mark on the left:

°º

(degree mark is enterable via opt-shift-8)

/pedant

[torifile]

You could use something like Textexpander to create an auto substitution for those hard to type characters.

[Kickaha]

Originally Posted by Brad FWIW, that's actually an ordinal indicator, which is a superscript letter o, not a degree mark. Here are the two side-by-side, with the degree mark on the left: °º (degree mark is enterable via opt-shift-8) /pedant

Actually, that's a *masculine* ordinal indicator, not a simple superscript letter o, and is Unicode 0x00BA or UTF-8 C2 BA.

That's to distinguish it from the *feminine* ordinal indicator, which is Unicode 0x00AA, UTF-8 C2 AA.

Sheesh.

/annoyingpedant

[Brad]

Originally Posted by Kickaha Actually, that's a *masculine* ordinal indicator, not a simple superscript letter o, and is Unicode 0x00BA or UTF-8 C2 BA.

Ah! But its decomposed equivalence is the superscript letter o, used to retain effective compatibility when the literal character is not available.

/nerdrage

[Kickaha]

That's what your mom said!

Aw, fuck it...