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HOM
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2005-10-28, 10:05

Ok, so all the work I've been doing that has kept me from regular posting at .org will be coming to an end in the very near future. I'm looking to completely overhaul my home theater/tv setup when I get done.

Right now, the only piece that I have is my PC Media Center that acts as my Tivo/jukebox/dvd player/ect. It's got DVI and can easily power an HDTV. Beyond that, I'm going to go nuts and buy everything new.

So, these are the components that I need and my budget:

I'm looking to spend no more than $5000 on all the equipment.

HDTV: 37" +

I'm not really sure what to do here. All the competing technologies have their strengths and weaknesses. Plasmas look great and have great contrast ratios, but are extremely expensive in the 40"+ sizes. LCD's are cheap and are amazingly bright, but have poor contrast and darks and blacks can be washed out. Rear projection seems to be the best $/inch, but can look washed out and the boxes themselves are gigantic. Projectors are cheap and have huge viewing areas, but require a screen and a dark room.

I'd really like some input on what people have or what they recommend.

Receiver: 2 DVI Inputs

I want whatever receiver I get to have at least 2 DVI inputs so I can hook up my PC and my HDTV cable box to it without having to use component. Beyond that, I'm really not too much of an audiophile and don't really know what to look for.

5.1/7.1 Sound:

Don't really know what to look for here so any advice is appreciated.


So .org, help me spend a shit ton of money on new gear!

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2005-10-28, 13:17

Dude, get a Dell.

Seriously. My parents have a Dell 42" Plasma with a built in HDTV tuner, HDMI, DVI, VGA, multiple component/s-video/composite inputs. It cost around $2500 when he bought it 6 months ago, right now you can get a 50" for around $3500, and that's unheard of. I really like the 42" they have and you can get that for just over $2000 now, which is an awesome deal.

I'll look around for receivers and let you know what I find.

Come waste your time with me
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2005-10-28, 13:40

I have a 46" DLP by Samsung that I just bought. Its great, if you have time I'd consider DLP, and if you have any other questions gimme a PM or w/e.

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HOM
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2005-10-28, 13:53

Ok, I think I've narrowed down the TV to a couple different ones:

HP's 58" 1080p DLP


The reviews I've seen from AVS and others say that this is pretty much one of the best DLP TV's period.

It is $4000, but from what I can read, it's worth every penny. I don't think it's worth the extra $1000 for an additional 7".

Or... I can get the Westinghouse 37" 1080p LCD

It's smaller, but it's an LCD and I could get 2 for the price of the HP. Biggest downside is that it has no built in tuner and the built in image scaling sucks. Hmmmm, one for the living room, one for the bedroom.



Or... I could get the Samsung 50" DLP TV. This one is only a 720p screen, but has pretty good downsampling for 1080i/p content. I can pick one of these up for $1500.

So, I could get a Samsung and Westinghouse for the price of the HP.

Damnit, I don't know what to do...

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2005-10-28, 14:04

I was considering the Westinghouse you mentioned, and I simply decided against it. The price wasn't right for what I got.

The Samsung model you are looking at is last year's model, I believe that is why it has the lower res.

This is the 2005 unit.

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2005-10-28, 15:08

For anything larger than 20", a plasma will generally be much cheaper than an LCD. And in my experience, Panasonic makes the best plasmas ( http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com for reviews).

They, and others, make some nice EDTV sets - they're not quite HDTV, but at a significant savings. What you get is a TV that typically will out-perform HDTV with current DVDs, and will only be about 10-15% behind an HDTV when viewing true HD content. The current Panasonic 42" EDTV sells for about $2000, but can be bought without speakers (if using a home theater setup) for about $1700.
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2005-10-29, 00:14

Allow me to bust on your glowing reviews of EDTVs. They don't suck, but they're no HDTV. If you're interested at all in really enjoying true HD programming, spend few extra hundred bucks and get the HD. HD is the way of the future, ED will be left behind.

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2005-10-29, 01:53

Check out AVSForum.com for reviews. Those guys are *obsessed*!

I have an Axiom Audio 5.1 system that's really nice. It isn't the best, but the price was good. The subwoofer is an HSU VTF-3. My receiver is a Harmon/Kardon AVR335.

My speakers are two M80ti fronts (floorstanding), two M22ti surrounds, and a VP150 center. For just the speakers it came to $1965. The subwoofer was about $700, and the receiver was $450. I think you'd need a different receiver, this one doesn't do DVI, AFAIK. I don't remember. But it's a nice set of speakers, and the price was good.
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2005-11-04, 05:55

You can build a fantastic system for $5,000. Keep in mind that the TV will probably take half of the money.

I know EXACTLY what you are going through. I agonized over my home theater for two years before I finally settled on a system that will make me happy for many years.

I learned everything I could about HDTV, the upcoming Blu-Ray and HD-DVD discs and the over-the-air conversion from analog to digital signals before buying a speaker. I looked at a lot of TVs and discovered what the broadcasters were doing regarding DTV transition. The research drove me crazy, but it saved me a lot of money and frustration.

TVs

The smaller number listed in the resolution will tell you if it is HD capable or not. If the smaller number is equal to or greater than 720, it is HD capable. 1280x720 is the minimum for HD reproduction. If you can hold off on the TV purchase, get a set that has 1920x1080 resolution.

Make sure the TV you choose has an HDMI connection and a built-in ATSC tuner. If the TV does not have those two components, you are wasting money.

You have to determine which is most important to you regarding the display. Is it: image quality,
power consumption,
flat design,
longetivity of the panel,
quiet operation,
price,
overall size,
styling,
ability to handle computer images, DVD, movies and over-the-air broadcasts equally well

All of those were important to me, but I placed the greatest weight on image quality, panel life and ability to handle a wide variety of video inputs without burn-in problems. I chose the Mitsubishi DLP because there is no image burn-in even if the set is on pause for 5 years, the styling is attractive, the power use is low, it is lightweight, and the price was right for the 52" size I received. I gave up flat panel design and quiet operation.

Here is what to consider --

IN MY OPINION:

Plasmas have the best image quality, but they use the most power, get hot and suffer from image burn-in. It is advised that computers not be used with plasmas in a regular basis. Look at 37" Panasonics and Sonys.

LCDs are the most versatile and will probably be your best fit, but you compromise on higher price and reduced image quality. Check out Sharp Aquos 37" and 37" - 42" Sonys.

DLPs can display everything well and the image quality is a notch below plasma, but better than LCD. There is no image burn-in the power use is the same as LCD. Plus, the price is low, especially when you consider 50"+. But, the unit is larger and cannot be wall mounted. The fan to cool the lamp can get loud. Some DLP sets overscan computer images. Plasma and LCD sets don't have this problem.

There is a new technology called SED (Surface Emitting Diode) being developed with Canon and some other company. It promises to deliver breathtaking 1920x1080 images with all the benefits of LCD, plasma and DLP in a thin unit. The only drawback is the initial price of entry. However, because SED sets use the same construction methods of CRT sets, prices are expected to drop rapidly because the sets can be made more reliably and cheaper than LCD or plasma.

RECEIVERS

As for receivers, look at Harmon/Kardon, Yamaha or Denon. Forget about DVI in the receiver. DVI is only for computers these days. HDMI is the standard for video and is included with all new TVs. The HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players will use HDMI because of its superior copy protection and the fact that it will not be licensed for use on computers. HDMI in the receiver may be out of your budget. The $1,299 Denon AVR-3806 is the cheapest receiver I've seen with HDMI switching. It has two HDMI inputs and one HDMI output to the monitor. HDMI carries 1920x1080p HD signals and 8-channel uncompressed digital audio in a single cable.

You can get a DVI-to-HDMI cable for the PC connection, since HDMI is backward compatiable with DVI. Keep in mind that with the PC, you'll only transport the video signal. You'll have to run a separate digital cable for the audio from the PC to the receiver.

Most receivers have DTS-ES or Dolby Digital EX processors built in, so 6.1 sound shouldn't be a problem. Make sure you have 6.1 capability at the minimum.

You never mentioned anything about speakers. The is a matter of personal taste, the size of your room, the receiver you decide on and budget. I would tell you to get a Yamaha Home Theater-In-A-Box system and call it a day, but you want HDMI (DVI) on the receiver.

In short, if you're willing to buy the Denon AVR-3806 receiver for $1299 and hunt down a deal on a 45" Sharp Aquos LC-45GD"n"U LCD TV, and skimp on the speakers, you should be set. Sharp has several models for that 45" LCD TV:

LC-45GD7U
LC-45GD6U
LC-45GD5U
LC-45GD4U
LC-45GX6U

All have 1920x1080 resolution, built in HD tuners and VGA PC inputs. Go to www.sharpusa.com for more info.

Try running some of this stuff through PriceGrabber.com and Google.com. Why pay full retail when you don't have to.
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2005-11-04, 08:12

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LC-45GD7U
LC-45GD6U
LC-45GD5U
LC-45GD4U
LC-45GX6U
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This was very informative. I was looking at the new Dell's (37" and 42"), but although the price is extremely attractive, they are not true HD. (is that what they cal ED?) Cannot see buying something like this with scaled HD and being disappointed in the picture when playing DVDs.

I am putting a flat screen TV in my office (14 ' x `12 '). My lounge chair will be about 10' away. Do you think 42" is too big. I want true HD (1080i.)

BTW, any idea on the differences of the Sharp models above. Website seems to indicate they are pretty much the same. I have an old 17" Sharp and was not that impressed. It is 3 years old. Have they improved?
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2005-11-04, 08:21

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Or... I could get the Samsung 50" DLP TV. This one is only a 720p screen, but has pretty good downsampling for 1080i/p content. I can pick one of these up for $1500.

So, I could get a Samsung and Westinghouse for the price of the HP.

Damnit, I don't know what to do...
You might want to have a look at Samsung's new line of 1080p DLP sets. I'm looking at the 50" set and I'll snap it up once it hits my $2500 price point. I imagine that'll happen sometime during the holiday season or just after CES/superbowl time. Hell, you can find it for $3000-3500 right now, but that's not my price point. I'm patient.

As for receivers, I'd look at Marantz. Anything in their SR line is good, but this SR-7500 model looks very full featured and the sound quality of their amplifiers is tough to beat.

Some folks recommend that you find a receiver that does all your video switching and upconverting. I'd let your TV do that, since they're much better equipped for the job these days. Have you TV focus on video and your receiver focus on sound. Buy a Harmony 880 remote, some speakers you like and you'll be pretty much set.

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2005-11-04, 08:37

But are not the DLP pretty deep? I like the idea of a 3-4" depth on plasma/LCDs.
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2005-11-04, 08:45

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I am putting a flat screen TV in my office (14 ' x `12 '). My lounge chair will be about 10' away. Do you think 42" is too big. I want true HD (1080i.)
If you write off your home office as a tax deduction, don't put a TV in there. If you do and the IRS finds out, they'll disqualify your home office tax deduction. As a matter of fact, if there's anything in your home office that is not business related, get it out of your office. Just a little tip.
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2005-11-04, 08:47

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But are not the DLP pretty deep? I like the idea of a 3-4" depth on plasma/LCDs.
Rear projection DLPs look to me to have the same depth (if not more) as traditional CRTs. I want my next TV to be flat too so I can mount it on the wall and reclaim some floor space.
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2005-11-04, 08:51

I do not write it off. . . it is an escape from my four kids.

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2005-11-04, 10:27

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But are not the DLP pretty deep? I like the idea of a 3-4" depth on plasma/LCDs.
I like the idea of a thin set also, but I'd rather get a bigger screen with higher resolution and more features for less money. The 50" Samsung DLP I'm looking at is 14" deep. I think that's pretty good for a big screen TV and I'd have to pay thousands more to get a 50" 1080p Plasma/LCD screen.

I'll just be setting this new TV where my old (20" deep) CRT display was, so space isn't really an issue for me. YMMV.

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2005-11-04, 12:00

I just bought a new sanyo plv-z3 projector for $1500 to replace an aging svga proxima projector.

Prices will probably drop after the holidays, but I don't know how much. I looked up how much the prices have dropped in the past year and found a couple references (through google news) to the average price of an HDTV 42" plasma going from about $4888 in Oct 04 to about $2600 this Oct. Rear projection is good for the price, but the sets seem really big, meaning that upgrading to a 50"+ HDTV plasma in a year or two would be pretty difficult and obnoxious.
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2005-11-04, 13:11

The difference between HD and ED has to do with the horizontal line count on the display. HD is either 720 or 1080 lines, brodcast either progressively or interlaced. ED is 480 progressive.
(In case you are unfamiliar, interlace means that the odd numbered and even numbered horizontal lines on the screen are refressed alternately every 1/60th of a second. So, in the 1st 60th of a second, lines 1,3,5,7,9.... are refreshed on screen. In the second 60th of that second, lines 2,4,6,8.... are refreshed.
In progressive scan, all horizontal lines are refreshed at the same time)

The reason that ED actually does a better (not drastically though) job of displaying current DVD content, is that current DVDs play at 480 lines either interlaced or progressive depending on the model. 480 line output from DVD matches the 480 line screen perfectly. Converting that image to 720 or 1080 for display on HD will cause a small deterioration in quality. Again, it's not a lot, but remember that the EDTV set is substantiall less cost.

Now viewing HD content on a 1080 interlaced HDTV sounds like it would be more than twice the quality of that on a 480 interlaced EDTV, but it isn't. Quantifying the difference is obviously subjective, but the reviews from people who have looked at a lot more of these sets than I have generally put the drop in quality at about 10-15%. Remember, that's when viewing true HD content (and by the way, some broadcasters actually put out their HD content at 480p).

So, if money is an obstacle, EDTV is a great bang for the buck. If money isn't that big of an obstacle, go with HDTV. Or if time is not of the essence, I imagine that HDTV sets will continue thier price decrease and eventually EDTV will no longer be an attractive price/perfomance trade-off. Who knows how long that will take.

Again, I am fond of the Panasonic line of Plasmas (if Plasma is what you want). You can find the Panasonic plasmas in both "consumer" and "professional" release. These are basically the same display, but the professional series can be bought without the speakers - since you're likely spending thousands on seperate units, you won't miss the built-ins. They also have some that don't come pre-configured with all the inputs, but rather have replaceable boards that you buy and insert into the unit. So, if you have no need for Composit video, you just don't buy a composite video card, and you don't pay for one that is already built in (they may have a 1 or two built-ins on some models). You can buy HDMI, Component, Composite, S-video, etc.


As for the other components
I personally prefer Yamaha Recievers and Paradigm Speakers. If you've never heard of Paradigm speakers, do yourself a favor and try to find a local supplier and give them a look. They are great combination of quality/cost. And if you want to look for some independent reviews on them, you'll often find that the reviewer stacks them up against speakers twice the price or more just to make it a level playing field - they can be found in the price range of systems like Klipsch, Bose, JBL, Polk, Infinity, etc., etc., but IMHO are much better quality. (They do come in different price categories: Monitor, Reference, Premier, etc. - What I have and love, are the Monitor class - the lower price units).

Good luck and have fun - that's what is most important.
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2005-11-04, 14:00

This just came out today on PCMag.com:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1881488,00.asp

Any one have a view of Sharp versus Panasonic. The review to me seems only so-so.

Just went down to Best Buy to look at the 42" Sharp, but they do not stock it. Damn. . . .
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2005-11-04, 15:22

I think Sharp makes the best LCDs, and as I stated above, I like Panasonic's Plasmas best. But, based on what I have seen, I would have no trouble buying a Sharp Plasma or a Panasonic LCD either. Both of these companies make some top quality products.
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2005-11-04, 15:40

Rule Number one with TVs -- NEVER buy it without first testing it in ALL the ways you plan on using it. The HP looks great on paper, but it may get in your house and you hate it because the image quality sucks, HD reception is flaky, its too big, its too noisy, and you hardly ever run the computer on it.

Between the Panasonic plasma and the Sharp LCD, Panasonic is the winner. I have seen both sets in operation and plasma handles constant motion images better than LCD.

Going by your followup posts, it seems you want a flat screen.

Will you run a computer or games on this screen? If so, go with a High Definition LCD screen that has a minimum of 720 horizontal lines. Sharp has the LC-37D7U 37" with 1366x768 resolution. That resolution helps if you're used to 1024x768 computer screens. If you can get a display with 1920x1080, that would be great.

If you do not plan on running a computer or games on the set and will not use it for extended periods of time, get a plasma. They offer the best image quality for constant motion images.

If you watch broadcast TV and DVD only, don't care about seeing the detail in insects, seeing skin pores and caked on makeup and seeing the difference between Astroturf and grass, and do not plan on upgrading to HD-DVD/Blu-Ray, ED (480 lines) is OK. I think they are a total waste of money and many of the top-tier companies (Panasonic, Sony, Sharp, Samsung, Pioneer, LG, Toshiba, Mitshbishi) are downplaying ED.

The typical 42" ED display has a resolution of 852x480 -- perfect 16:9 size for DVDs. To my eye, DVD looks best on ED displays because DVD specifies 480 of horizontal resolution. In HD sets, the upsampling technology gives compelling results. I've seen fantastic results from 720 HD sets running DVDs through the composite (yellow RCA) inputs. Things get interesting with 1080 HD sets.

If you want a TV that can do it all and is ready for HD-DVD/Blu-Ray, and you're willing to take a hit with your budget and a slight hit in image quality, you should get a 1920x1080 LCD display.

You will get a flat design, max HD image, acceptable resolution for computer use, no risk of image burn-in, acceptable power consumption, quiet operation. You will take a hit on price, limited inputs and image quality.

Until SED comes out and gets cheap, you can't have it all.

As far as the amp, I'm a Yamaha guy, but I do like Denons too. But, the best specs come from Sunfire and Musical Fidelity, in my opinion.

I agree with zippy -- it is best to run all video sources straight to display, and run all audio through the receiver. Your overall results will be better, but you'll be shuffling 14 remotes. You aren't confined to one or two brands at higher than necessary price points. Then, you can get better speakers . I won't go into those because it took me even longer to get the ones I liked (Wharfedale), and I'm upgrading those to Magneplanars anyway. Eventually, I want a set of Martin Logans :smokey: .
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2005-11-04, 15:53

You might also want to consider getting the Apple 30" display, a dual-link DVI card that can drive the 30" at 2560x1600, and a sound card with optical audio output (unless your computer already has one).

For the video card, look at the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro PC & Mac Edition ($199, AGP 8x) or the Matrox Parhelia DL256 PCI graphics card (about $699, PCI, PCI-X).

The monitor is smaller than 37", but it is less expensive ($2499), has better resolution, can be wall mounted, and will work with the media center PC you currently have. You will take hits on input flexibility and screen size, but if your media center is already handling all of your video needs, all you need is an optical connection from your PC to a good amp to handle your audio.

It all depends on what is most important to you -- a computing experience, broadcast/DVD quality, or lowest cost possible with compromises made all around.
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2005-11-04, 16:01

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I think Sharp makes the best LCDs, and as I stated above, I like Panasonic's Plasmas best. But, based on what I have seen, I would have no trouble buying a Sharp Plasma or a Panasonic LCD either. Both of these companies make some top quality products.
Although several manufactures sell plasma and LCD sets, each is on record for what they specialize in. Based on what I have read and seen:

Panasonic specializes in plasma
Sharp - LCD
Sony - LCD
Samsung - DLP
Toshiba - even mix of LCD and DLP
Pioneer - plasma
LG - plasma
Mitsubishi - DLP & LCD (however, their plasmas are the best I've ever seen, including Panasonic. They cost twice as much, too).

Take a look at the top product from each company.
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There is a new technology called SED (Surface Emitting Diode) being developed with Canon...
I made a mistake with SED. The correct name is Surface-conduction Electron-emitter Display.

Canon's page on the technology is http://www.canon.com/technology/display/
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2005-11-06, 03:15

I went to Fry's yesterday to purchase a new mouse. In the distance, I saw the 60" Sony KDS-R60XBR1. It uses three SXRD chips/panels to reproduce images -- one panel for the red , green and blue components of the image. SXRD is Sony's "refinement" of LCoS technology. Seems they got it to work because that Sony has the finest image quality I have EVER seen on a TV. I recommend to anyone who is serious about having the best image quality for their home theater to go check it out. It's really that good. It's a steal at $4,999. Fry's was selling it for $3,999. It pissed all over the Panasonic plasmas and the Mitsubishi DLP. The great thing is there is a 50" model too -- the KDS-R50XBR1. Looks like its time to trade up my Mitsubishi.

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You might also want to consider getting the Apple 30" display, a dual-link DVI card that can drive the 30" at 2560x1600, and a sound card with optical audio output (unless your computer already has one).
I am intriqued by this idea. If I were to get a separate TV Tuner card, would this drive the 30". The Quad I ordered already comes with a 6600.

How good with the picture be? EyeTV is not high enough quality for 30" screen.
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2005-11-10, 16:06

Sorry for not getting back to the thread sooner.

I studied the Elgato website and the different EyeTV units available. I liked what I saw. Until I joined this forum, I never knew a device like this existed for the Mac.

You won't need a separate tuner card since the EyeTV unit incorporates a tuner. From what I understand, you connect a coax connection from an antenna or satellite/cable box into the EyeTV. Then, connect a Firewire cable from the EyeTV to the Mac. Run some setup discs and you're copying away. Easy enough.

The 30" display requires a dual link DVI card, which your PowerMac has. Since HDTV maxes out at 1920x1080p (resolution of most 23" and 24" displays), dual link isn't required until the bandwidth exceeds 165 MPixels/s. The highest resolution I've seen on single link DVI cards is 2048x1536. Because a great many video cards are capable of those resolutions, it is unlikley a dual link version will be made available unless the HDTV specification improves.

(By the way, max bandwidth on a dual link DVI connection is 330MPixels/sec. Check out this page for a little more info - http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2573)

According to Elgato's site, the EyeTV 200 works with antennas, cable or satellite boxes; recording any data received at the best resolution possible from coax or composite signals. Although excellent images can be obtained from composite connections, for HD displays (especially the 30"), the resolution may not be enjoyable enough. The highest analog resolution from the EyeTV 200 is 720x480, essentially that of DVD. One good thing I like about this unit is that it can record in MPEG-4, so you can save the recorded programs in QuickTime 7, then export the videos to a video iPod.

The output could be good enough, considering the many positive comments from EyeTV users.

The EyeTV 500 will deliver high quality images at up to 1920x1080i because it has an HDTV tuner. However, you're limited to the free stuff and MPEG-2 recording. It's not as flexible to use as the 200 is, and it costs more.

Since I'll soon be in your shoes, I would purchase the EyeTV 200 and connect it to the 30" equipped PowerMac. When one considers that DVDs do look decent on the 30" display, it can be hoped that a signal from a digital satellite or cable box will yield similar results. The bonus is being able to move the recorded shows from the computer to an iPod.
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BTW, any idea on the differences of the Sharp models above. Website seems to indicate they are pretty much the same.

The main differences between the 45" models are case colors (silver, titanium and piano black), speaker configuration (side removable, side fixed, bottom removable), and channel distribution (some found at mass retailers, some found at A/V shops).
Performance is same across the models. All are able to display true 1080p HD spec.

Of course if you want to dwarf them all, AQUOS is now available in 65"....
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uypeterson
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2005-11-10, 17:01

Thanks for the info about the different models of the 45" Sharp LCD sets. I never knew until know. I would search all of them, looking for the best price.

The Sharp AQUOS 65" LC-65D90U. That is one hot set. My only issue is the 45" units left much to be desired after comparing Sharp against the similarly priced Sony SXRS set side-by-side. Compared to the Sony, the Sharp (and others) made people look they were the spawn of Michael Myers. If Sharp couldn't get it right at 45", I'm not expecting much at 65".

However, if you must have a flat panel that uses less power than plasma, works well with a computer and games, and you're willing to sacrafice the superior image quality of a plasma at this size range at a higher price ($19,999 list), the Sharp is the way to go. Why? It is the only 65" flat-panel with 1920x1080 resolution.

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2005-11-10, 17:36

I recently purchased the EyeTV 200 and have been extremely surprised how easy it is to use (the user interface is TitanTV and it is great). Until my Quad arrives, I have been plugging it into my 17" PB and watching all my missed shows on the train to and forth NYC.
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