[drewprops]

There is only one person who owns the events of this day.

And that is the president of the United States.



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[Kickaha]

Hey murbot, last time it was you Canuckistanian bastards, I suspect infiltration.

Seriously, this shouldn't surprise a single person who's been paying attention for the past five years. It's been telegraphed, on display, clearly communicated all along.

[Dr. Bobsky]

Originally Posted by kscherer Yep. Please, let's try to keep the political finger-pointing out of the way. I'll say this: I'm not happy about it. Too many adults acting like children this year, and on both sides of the aisle. It's insane. This is not the way to handle things, and the instigator-in-chief is not helping. FYI: Better run to the store and get yourselves a few roles of TP. Could get fugly this week.

ffs. There is no equivalency between protests against police shootings and a mob being encouraged by the President of the US to violently take control of the Capitol. One of these things is formulated around the betterment of the US and the other around one man's ego. I hope I don't have to explain which is which.

[Dr. Bobsky]

Originally Posted by Kickaha Hey murbot, last time it was you Canuckistanian bastards, I suspect infiltration. Seriously, this shouldn't surprise a single person who's been paying attention for the past five years. It's been telegraphed, on display, clearly communicated all along.

Hopefully, the FBI will take more seriously their own reports that the greatest danger to the US is white supremacists.

[709]

Well according to most right-leaning big-brain types the seditious terrorists were really all blacks in whiteface, so the FBI certainly has its work cut out.

[drewprops]

Y'all I just can't do any comedy.

This sedition, this idiocy, this vitriol has made me sick.

I went and looked up the girl who was shot and died.

She was batshit crazy, filled with so much hate.

So much hate.

I watched the video where she clambered up to climb through the broken glass opening.

What was beyond that barrier? She will never know.

A shot rang out and she just dropped back and fell the ground like a sack of potatoes.

I think she died right there in the midst of the confusion and jostling and chaos.

What did she die for, exactly?

Was it worth it?

There is an illness that grips our world now - a vulnerability in our people to being hacked.

I go well out of my way to find ways to get along with people who have different ideologies than me.

In doing so I have been changed over the years - made better.

But there is nothing that has been done to improve my character by knowing people whose ideologies include strong belief in Trump.

And so it is difficult for me to hold my tongue.

This is not a news story, but a declaration that I look forward to the day when Trump is removed from our national dialogue.



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[crazychester]

Kscherer should not be a mod on this forum.

First, I'll ban all discussion that I don't agree with.

Second, then I'll submit some false equivalency to protect myself.

So you believe the election was a fraud.

You can ban me to hell and back, you dipshit.

But you might want to get your moral compass seen to.

Because it needs some serious readjustment.

Adios amigos.

[turtle]

I have to say, though I am conservative and voted that way, I'm appalled by the actions and inactions of Trump. I can't believe we have been able to sit and watch the mob run through the Capitol and spit on America that way. That is not the actions of people trying to do the right thing or even stand up for truth. That was nothing more than a mob of whining and crying idiots. Hopefully those who broke the law will be held accountable.

It is truly saddening to see the honorable places in our country's governance be disgraced like this. I grew up in the DC area and have always had a very high respect for the buildings and those who worked in them even when I disagree with them politically speaking. I chose to support and defend our Constitution out of that same respect. I cannot believe the level of disrespect that is happening.

I also don't have all the facts, just media/blogs and they can only be trusted so much. There is more than enough, though, to show that it was truly a sad day for America.

[kscherer]

Originally Posted by crazychester Kscherer should not be a mod on this forum. First, I'll ban all discussion that I don't agree with. Second, then I'll submit some false equivalency to protect myself. So you believe the election was a fraud. You can ban me to hell and back, you dipshit. But you might want to get your moral compass seen to. Because it needs some serious readjustment. Adios amigos.

Not entirely sure where all that came from, but okay.

[Dr. Bobsky]

Originally Posted by crazychester Kscherer should not be a mod on this forum. First, I'll ban all discussion that I don't agree with. Second, then I'll submit some false equivalency to protect myself. So you believe the election was a fraud. You can ban me to hell and back, you dipshit. But you might want to get your moral compass seen to. Because it needs some serious readjustment. Adios amigos.

Don't ever change crazy...

Edit: to cool passions a bit, I'm not sure I have ever seen Ken say he believes the election was stolen or any of the more conservative members of this forum indicate much beyond an informed conservativism (the ranting politicos were left, for the most part, at AI), and nothing close to Trumpista brain washing. There may be one member who believes that god annointed Trump to be president, but he's not even from the US so he can kick a brick.

Anyhow, Marjorie shouldn't leave and Ken's done a bang up job this last year...

[Matsu]

That vulnerability Drewprops mentions, to “being hacked,” is basically ignorance. I’m not talking elitist “book smarts” either, just a general lack of any sort of understanding of a wider context, what others might think. And the bigger that gap gets, the more people like Trump can just pour giant steaming piles of shit into it to create what we saw last night.

[turtle]

Wow, Trump doesn't know when to quit so bad that he got hi personally account suspended from Twitter. I haven't followed him (nor used Twitter really) so I have no idea what he was posting. At least his habits will have to change now.

[Ryan]

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[Brad]

Originally Posted by turtle Wow, Trump doesn't know when to quit so bad that he got hi personally account suspended from Twitter. I haven't followed him (nor used Twitter really) so I have no idea what he was posting. At least his habits will have to change now.

In his last post before the temporary 24-hour suspension Wednesday afternoon, he posted a video directly addressing the DC terrorists and said in addition to his usual lies about the election, and I quote, "We love you. You're very special." I'm pretty sure that was the final undeniable straw in light of the heinous acts that had just unfolded. I suspected it wouldn't last long, and I saved a copy of that video before it went down, but there are probably tons of copies floating around at this point.

Historians and data archivists have been cataloging his Twitter since Trump became president. IMO the best interface is https://www.thetrumparchive.com/ if you ever want to look for something. They were scraping every 60 seconds, and since most posts were up longer than a minute before being deleted, they have a copy of virtually everything. It doesn't include embeds like the aforementioned video, though.

FWIW, Trump also tried to circumvent his Twitter ban tonight by posting directly from the @POTUS account, but his posts there were swiftly removed. Whoops. Here's a screenshot of the very short-lived posts.

Trump's accounts have also been perma-banned from Facebook and Instagram, and several of the havens for his conspiratorial followers are being shuddered. The r/donaldtrump subreddit was just banned. Parler is on the brink of shutdown; Google already removed its app and Apple gave a 24-hour notice for them to present a comprehensive moderation plan before they remove it.

Better late than never.

[709]

Originally Posted by Brad Better late than never.

Maybe? On the one hand, I'm happy his fascist digital-spittle is finally turned off. On the other hand... what the fuck is the psycho doing right now? With only a handful of days to go I don't know if I wouldn't feel better if I could see him lashing out. At least he'd be occupied.

[tomoe]

Originally Posted by Brad In his last post before the temporary 24-hour suspension Wednesday afternoon, he posted a video directly addressing the DC terrorists and said in addition to his usual lies about the election, and I quote, "We love you. You're very special." I'm pretty sure that was the final undeniable straw in light of the heinous acts that had just unfolded. I suspected it wouldn't last long, and I saved a copy of that video before it went down, but there are probably tons of copies floating around at this point. Historians and data archivists have been cataloging his Twitter since Trump became president. IMO the best interface is https://www.thetrumparchive.com/ if you ever want to look for something. They were scraping every 60 seconds, and since most posts were up longer than a minute before being deleted, they have a copy of virtually everything. It doesn't include embeds like the aforementioned video, though. FWIW, Trump also tried to circumvent his Twitter ban tonight by posting directly from the @POTUS account, but his posts there were swiftly removed. Whoops. Here's a screenshot of the very short-lived posts. Trump's accounts have also been perma-banned from Facebook and Instagram, and several of the havens for his conspiratorial followers are being shuddered. The r/donaldtrump subreddit was just banned. Parler is on the brink of shutdown; Google already removed its app and Apple gave a 24-hour notice for them to present a comprehensive moderation plan before they remove it. Better late than never.

r/conservative has been in full on meltdown/wild-eyed conspiracy mode for the past 24-48 hours--even more so than their usual 11/10 level of brain damaged craziness. Nary a single one of them can understand the 1st Amendment doesn't protect them against a company (Twitter or Reddit) blocking their account or subreddit. The added irony is that the mods of r/conservative ban users if they catch so much as a whiff of disagreement.

r/LeopardsAteMyFace has been a gold mine for capturing all this idiocy, whataboutism, and "Go look it up"-ism...

[709]

Literally 10 seconds ago typing in "is " in Google search:

is parler down
is santa real
is sneezing a symptom of covid
is today a holiday (?)
is trump on parler


Top results. This isn't a great look for the USA.

(?) mine because, what? IS today a holiday and I wasn't told???

[PB PM]

Originally Posted by 709 Maybe? On the one hand, I'm happy his fascist digital-spittle is finally turned off. On the other hand... what the fuck is the psycho doing right now? With only a handful of days to go I don't know if I wouldn't feel better if I could see him lashing out. At least he'd be occupied.

Sledge hammers to HDDs to break the platters? Burning documents? Anyone see smoke coming from the whitehouse?

[kscherer]

I wish I could come up with something to say right now, but I've been drunk-taliknig with my kid for hours, and that is so much better than whaterver you bitches are talking about.

[PB PM]

Yes please do, enough of this stuff, from both sides, it helps no one.

[zippy]

I find it hilarious how these right wingers don’t realize that a repeal of Section 230 would shut down their lies and hate speech even faster. They’d have no choice but to create their own platforms, and then be sued constantly for the BS libel they spew all the time.

[turtle]

*raises hand*

Can we get a clean up on the thread? I'm all for political and religious bantering but this is a Daily News Thread. Heck, I'm only not replying to these topics here because it isn't the thread to do it.

[kscherer]

Originally Posted by turtle *raises hand* Can we get a clean up on the thread? I'm all for political and religious bantering but this is a Daily News Thread. Heck, I'm only not replying to these topics here because it isn't the thread to do it.

Yeah, its spiraling.

[Frank777]

Thanks for the move.

[kscherer]

No problem.

[PB PM]

Originally Posted by Frank777 So you basically just want to rant about people who don't think like you do, and tell them to shut up when they post an answer? How progressive-tolerant.

No, I wasn’t telling anyone to shut up, I said that because people were making personal attacks (on you, for one), and didn’t like that it was going that way rather the discussing the issues. Was my later post a little hot headed? Maybe a little. But hey, go for make person attacks.

To be clear I’m not left wing, but I’m sure not right wing either. I am not ranting, just stating what I experienced between working in the church for 8 years, and from going to a conservative bible school. I will not lie, so I will say I’m a much happier person now that I am free from that environment.

[kscherer]

Originally Posted by PB PM To be clear I’m not left wing, but I’m sure not right wing either.

And I'll tell you what, this is a weird-ass time to be stuck in the middle.

[PB PM]

Originally Posted by kscherer And I'll tell you what, this is a weird-ass time to be stuck in the middle.

Yeah, it leads to a lot of face palm moments and headaches.

[turtle]

Man, based on this I must just be right leaning middle.

[drewprops]

Whoa.

Everybody out of the pool!!

Just don't delete anything, that would be dumb too.

GIT!

Go to another thread for a while.


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