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And no, I'm not looking to start a new one, I just want opinions from you guys on how I handled this in another forum I have started to frequent.
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Join Date: May 2004
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Macs are just nicer. It's intangible.
That said, I use a PC. It was cheaper, I like the upgradability (cheaper and easier than a Mac, even though I have done many upgrades on Macs before), and gaming is really no contest. |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: London Town
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But Macs are definitely nicer, as Luca says. And this niceness is not that intangible. From the interface to the build quality, Macs are better in so many ways. Then again, PCs are better in many ways: games (mouse+keyboard is by far a better input device for games than a console controller), speed (in certain ways). [Edit] Oh, and Networks, Macs are SHITE with (SMB) networks bouncy bouncy Last edited by SonOfSylvanus : 2004-12-18 at 21:23. |
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Location: Berkeley
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I really can't remember the last time Mac OS X crashed on me though. I've had weird shit happen that has made funky stuff appear on screen but it has gone away with force quits and everything.
It's hard to explain to PC users the benefits of the Mac when they already hold their opinion and have never used a mac. Having grown up on a mac, going to any PC was like going back in time 5-10 years. However, I can imagine growing up on a PC and going to a mac being like going to the future 5-10 years and that can be equally as confusing I suppose Either way, it's a shame Apple's hardware is not more competitive or on par with the PC world because its becoming more and more apparent that the Mac is a much superior platform and Apple is going places that people would really get a lot of use out of. They just don't realize it. |
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There are a few different answers.
Well, Macs do not cater to a DIY crowd in terms of hardware. But how many people want to go through the effort of bulding their own PC, upgrading it, etc.? Macs cater to those who don't want the hassle, not just in terms of hardware but in terms of software, the OS, the apps, etc. too. While you can do a lot more with the OS and software if you want (CLI, X11, *nix, whatnot), the user experience is designed for those who don't and shouldn't have to do a lot of upkeep, those who don't want to learn new ways of doing things all the time, people who find advantage in working with more tailored tools for a given job, and using many such tools together on a work rather than being boxed in by an app or a software suite. The idea ultimately is that you spend less time on sharpening your tools and more time using them. Macs sacrifice some (not as much as people may think) flexibility for more predictability. So, in summary, a Mac is for the lazy people, like me. Here's to the lazy ones... |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Pittsburgh
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I think a pro-Mac case can best be made by demonstrating that you understand the tradeoffs involved and have made an informed decision. Over time, this tends to convince even the most die-hard PC fanatics.
For instance, it is a disservice to claim that the Mac is a good gaming platform. As much as I love OS X and apple hardware, Macs are clearly not as good for gaming. It is also wishful thinking to assert that the situation is improving. While there are games for the mac, they generally perform worse, even on more expensive hardware. There are also fewer games and most are released after many months delay if at all. By admitting this to the PC users, they will begin to respect your opinion, observing that you evaluate each platform without bias. Then... when you point out bennefits of OS X, you won't be dismissed immediately as a hopeless fanatic. |
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It's not so much about being lazy to me (though I am definitely lazy). For normal day to day stuff like word processing, email, web browsing, CD burning, grabbing pics off digicams and home movies off digital camcorders, Apple just does it so much better. The interface is cleaner, the multitasking is better, the software is always more intuitive. Making something better and easier to use doesn't constitute "catering to the lazy" in my book, any more than Microsoft is catering to masochists with Windows.
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Join Date: May 2004
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Once Macs get all or most of the games that are out for PC's and the games released on the same date as the PC's get the game than I believe apple will give us a bit better specs. But, don't hope for anything higher than a 5200 in an emac or a 9600 in an iMac.
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Actually I think the whole protocol is bad. To date I haven't seen a perfectly good and stable network disk system. I have worked in companies that have large networks, my college has a large network, and my campus apartment is in a 1500+ computer local network. SMB, the various Unix network file systems, they all seem to suck some way or other. |
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