Selfish Heathen
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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Ars just published an article about a new Mac-only program called Delicious Library.
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Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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1) They have been brain-washed into believing that PCs are better; 2) They have invested millions of dollars into third party software that only runs on PCs. Replacing that software with Mac versions would ruin their IT budgets. Although many of those companies are learning that the cost of new Apple hardware AND software is cheaper than the annual maintenance costs of PC-based networks. 3) Their IT folks decide what hardware to buy and they only know Windose. - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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I am worthless beyond hope. Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Washington, DC
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I know a guy on a car forum who works at an IT company, and one of their major clients decided to leave Macintosh support off of their new contract. Why? Well, here's what he said about it -- Quote:
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Mr. Vieira
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Tennessee
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I'm not a techie type by any stretch (I've never launched Terminal and probably never will, don't code/program, don't hotrod hardware, don't know all the inner workings of things, not a networking guru, etc.), but in almost 12 years of using a Mac, I've never encountered a problem or situation that I couldn't fix or figure out myself, or, worst case scenario, hop onto a message board and get a simple, straightforward answer from a buddy fairly quickly. And since OS X has hit its stride (since fall of 2002, with Jaguar), it's even better! But I've never had to call Apple tech support or endure any true, serious down-time due to complex, over-my-head issue.
Things just seem to work, with a minimum of hassle and coaxing. I'm guessing that's the result of the "whole widget" approach of Apple, being that they make the hardware, much of the software I truly use day-to-day (Safari, Mail, iTunes, iChat, iCal, iSync, iPhoto, Sherlock, TextEdit and Preview...plus all the .Mac features) and the amazing OS that runs it all. I like that. That's something others don't/can't do. Last edited by psmith2.0 : 2004-11-11 at 10:57. |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Minnesota
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Absolutely. I had a lot of problems setting up my PC a couple weeks ago because Windows refused to boot from my Serial ATA drive. It took literally DAYS of digging around the internet to find the answer - for some reason I had to enable my motherboard's SATA RAID feature, even though it was only for a single drive. I tried everything else that people suggested to no avail, but only that worked.
See, my procedure for installing a new SATA drive on a Mac would be to open the computer, take the old one out, and put the new one in. Windows has to support such a large variety of motherboards, onboard devices, and peripherals that it becomes impossible to achieve a completely equivalent experience across the board. The installation procedure was different with my PC than it would have been had I used a regular ATA drive, or a motherboard with a different company's SATA controller. So basically you're trading expandability and customization in a PC for a tight, refined, homogeneous experience on a Mac. This is why I say that for 90% of people, a Mac would be best. Then you can take the 10% (or less) who are major techies and they can use PCs. The reason I even use a PC is for the customization. It's so nice. Want a video card for under $100? You have eighty gazillion to choose from. Want a TV tuner card? $50. Surround sound? It's built into many motherboards, and there are plenty of third-party sound cards to handle it as well, vs. one third party solution (albeit a good one) on the Mac. Running a bit loud? Replace the standard-issue fan with a quieter one. Last edited by Luca : 2004-11-11 at 10:19. |
Which way is up?
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Boyzeee
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Yeah, and you can put groovy neon lights in there, too! Whooppee!
I am similar to P2.0 on this one (uh-oh!) I am not a "power user" by any means and, yet, in 25 years of using Apple Computers, I have called tech support three times. Once when I forgot my password (Performa 6300), once when I installed a firmware update and got a sad mac (iMac 350) and once when my internet access kept bombing (iMac G4). Turns out the password issue was MY fault; iMac 350 was a third party RAM issue; iMac G4 was a bad modem. On the other side of that, my PC using in-laws and family seem to call twice a month with serious "can't figure this PC out" stuff. Only my eccentric mother-in-law calls regarding her Mac and that is usually because she doesn't quite know what to do with all of the virus alert e-mails she keeps getting. I simply explain to her that they are intended for PCs and she answers "oh, that's what I thought. Just wanted to be sure." - AppleNova is the best Mac-users forum on the internet. We are smart, educated, capable, and helpful. We are also loaded with smart-alecks! :) - Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. (Mat 5:9) |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa, ON
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That more or less describes my experience back with Apple (since 2001 - I was a early Apple user in the 80s before being forced, by circumstances, into the PC world for many years). Ease of use and ease of maintenance were the reasons that I bought a Mac, and it has not let me down in these regards. I had AppleCare, but I barely used it for support...and did not use it at all after the first year. And I did not use it for repairs either...the only thing that went wrong was a mouse that stopped working after the kids had dropped it about 100 times. Apple replaced it within a few days just the same. When there's an eel in the lake that's as long as a snake that's a moray. |
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Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Dubuque, IA
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I suppose I could make a big rant about why I use macs instead of PCs but it would all be stuff you've already heard.
To put it as simply as possible, macs are fun to use, PCs are not. I can use my PC to do just about all the same stuff I can with my mac, but Windows is ugly. I don't just mean ugly looking, though it is, it's got an ugly feel to it. It just doesn't work right. I'm the sort of person who actually takes pleasure from the simple act of using a computer. I mean using a mac, that is. I don't take that pleasure from using a PC and that's my point. Using a PC is like going to work, using a mac is like having sex or something. OK, bad analogy, but you get the idea. |
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Join Date: Jul 2004
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1) stable, stable OS- I hardly shutdown the computer, I can put the mofo sleep instead of shutting it down for weeks. With a PC, it would act up after the 4th or 5th day. Out of 3 years of owning a G3 iMac and a G5, I have never had to restart the Mac because of OS X acting up. The only two problems I had were with my G3 iMac- 1) the computer shut down without warning (due to the power cable not being fully fitted in) and 2) after clicking on "shutdown" it didn't shutdown so I had to manually turn it off. That's it.
2) less of a target with viruses 3) design, I like having something cool and trendy on my desk 4) mac community- cool people to talk to. I went to the MacWorld thing in NYC, very cool. Watching Jobs talk in person was cool. 5) I just like using something different. |
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For me, Its when I come across something on my computer, that I only have to do once in my entire time of owning a computer, and some how it works flawlessly. Some how Apple thought about the one problem that 20 people are going to have and fixed it.
Apples level of perfection in everything is unmatched, At-least in my eyes. And yes, RDF has a large hand in it. WARNING: Do not let Dr. Mario touch your genitals. He is not a real doctor. |
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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The way I see it, the core of the problem is that most of the existing IT admins know only Windows and that inertia makes it very hard for the company to switch, no matter what the efficiency of Apple's solution. There is also great inertia in custom and out-of-the-box OS limited apps. |
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I am worthless beyond hope. Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Washington, DC
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But, what the heck, I'll give another story -- We've been having a school for the corporals, and today was their day to give presentations. Some were using Powerpoint through a Sony projector. I got a call from one of my junior Marines, saying that she couldn't get her Dell laptop to work with the projector. Okay, well, I go over there, and they changed the order so that she could get it straightened out. They were using another person's laptop for the presentation at the moment, so since it worked, she burned hers to CD to transfer it (would've been easier to use a flash drive, but oh well). When it was her turn, she opened the presentation on the working computer, and it appeared to work -- except that, instead of a green background, it was now BLUE. That's just stupid. Why couldn't 1) the Dell have worked in the first damn place, and 2) the other computer could use the right colors? I've used my iBook for Powerpoint (both through Powerpoint and Keynote) and video files, and I haven't had a problem like that. The shit just works. |
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Zone of Pain
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Of course, the person could still be reading every reply that gets forwarded (although that won't include every post in the thread).
From the "You can do that?? Cool!" Department: I saw a thing over on macosxhints.com saying how you can command-drag a file from a drawer in Preview and drop it into the Trash, on another application, or whatever. Now, I would have never thought of doing that, but dang, it works! I just now opened a specific page from a PDF document in Photoshop Elements. Do Windows users ever try things like this? |
Shiny, Musky, Fleshy Member
Join Date: May 2004
Location: The Beer Store
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When you have something really awesome you pretty much get the urge to know everything about it! You know what I mean? Founder of the Applenova Folding Team |
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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As I posted yesturday in the general discussions,
I don't even have it yet but I know a little about the new OS Panther and Tiger through some research done at www.apple.com and through keynotes (all of them). And to the members of this forum who got me into this (@ my first two threads) Hey, you know what I just realized. The "@" button has a similar symbol to the Macs. YOU SEE THE MACS ARE TAKING OVER!!! Mwahaha! First and for most the appearance got me hook. Honestly. When I saw the iBook - my reaction was Whoa!. Then I began reading up on it; tech specs, etc. Then I saw the PowerBook...then shortly after the iMac (the ipod based computer)...and you get the idea. Same goes for the OS. #1 I am tired of Windows. Its boring and annoying!! It freezes - resulting in a loss of my active files (hws..) and its just annoying; having to reboot the PC and re-open the windows, files and internet browers to the page you were viewing; and program constanly Doesn't respond. I do not blame them...the PCs must be a dreadful place to be in. Then I introduced myself to OS X. Its graphics and design looks amazing! It caught my attention, just like seeing a hot chick down the street. If she wasn't attrative - you wouldn't initate a convo same here with this OS. I looked into it, read about out, etc. The features, its layout (new and interesting) and so much more...it all enchances your computer experience. Especially spotlight and other apps which help in organization (such as the diff color folders). This way you know what you have on your comp and keep it organized. I was never this enthusiastic about a computer before. It is down to earth and simply cool. It looks nice, the programs are nice and are useful. You can use your computer..to the "fullest" (as my friend puts it) even if you are not "computer smart." It is for EVERYONE. I read articles that children even operated this computer; at ages of up to 4 years old! I recall, when i was in 5th grade...a computer was so foreign...like learning medical terminology in janpenese... It scared me. I remembered when I played my first video game in 6th grade...I thought the fog of war was some glitch; haha i was so computer illiterate...I still am - ah, *reminisces* some things never change :P In Sum, first came physical attraction; then came to the technical attration. Just like a relationship. When I met my girlfriend, the first thing which triggered the events (the approach etc) was the physical attraction (she is hoOoTt ) and when I got to know her (just like when I got to know the Mac - technically speaking) - her personality (etc) I love her! A mac is like a relationship! Hence the name, "iMac" (You and the Mac :P) |
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