[psgamer0921]

How many .* updates does Apple usually do per OS? What time do you think it will be before OS 11/XI/whatever-its-called will be released?

[Wickers]

Well 10.4 will be the last until 11 (or whatever it is called).

[Barto]

I blame Apple for this. If they'd started the version numbers at 1.0 or used the Darwin version numbers, we wouldn't have this shit.

Mac OS X <- the brand
10.4 <- the version number

Maybe there will be an 11.0 (after 10.9 but Apple might just call it 10.10), but Mac OS X is a brand, not a number to be incremented.

Barto

[dviant]

I don't know, but if they don't do an ad with the Spinal Tap guy saying "... but this one goes to eleven..." I'll be sorely disappointed.

[psgamer0921]

Originally Posted by Barto I blame Apple for this. If they'd started the version numbers at 1.0 or used the Darwin version numbers, we wouldn't have this shit. Mac OS X <- the brand 10.4 <- the version number Maybe there will be an 11.0 (after 10.9 but Apple might just call it 10.10), but Mac OS X is a brand, not a number to be incremented. Barto

So instead of it being OS X, it's OS X 10? That's confusing

[autodata]

Of course, they may choose to move beyond the OS X brand like they probably should.

[psmith2.0]

May 2007, according to my sources.

[psgamer0921]

What might those sources me

[staph]

[insert obligatory Spinal Tap reference]

My OS is the best! It goes to XI!

[LudwigVan]

Originally Posted by psgamer0921 So instead of it being OS X, it's OS X 10? That's confusing

It's like a pun or any other play on words.

[synotic]

Originally Posted by \/\/ickes Well 10.4 will be the last until 11 (or whatever it is called).

It will? Where did you hear that? I thought Apple was going to exhaust 10.X until 10.9.

Originally Posted by psgamer0921 So instead of it being OS X, it's OS X 10? That's confusing

What do you mean? Officially, you're supposed to refer to the version numbers like Mac OS X 10.3.4

[Kickaha]

Originally Posted by synotic It will? Where did you hear that? I thought Apple was going to exhaust 10.X until 10.9.

Why would they stop there? These aren't decimal number, these are build versions that happen to use a period as a separator. The minor build after 10.9 is 10.10, after that, 10.11, then 10.12, and so on.

You could just as easily write them 10-9, 10-10, 10-11... does that help? The current OS release would then be 10-3-4.

[_Ω_]

I thought X was in reference to UniX.

It also sounds cool as well :smokey:

[synotic]

Originally Posted by Kickaha Why would they stop there? These aren't decimal number, these are build versions that happen to use a period as a separator. The minor build after 10.9 is 10.10, after that, 10.11, then 10.12, and so on. You could just as easily write them 10-9, 10-10, 10-11... does that help? The current OS release would then be 10-3-4.

Yeah, I've actually thought about that with apps development, going onto 4.10 if they need a new build but isn't the 5.0 build. The only problem I see is whether Apple's PR department is willing to live with Mac OS X v10.10... could cause some confusion

[Powerdoc]

Mac os X 10,4 wil be released in 2005, one year and an half after panther. There is chance that OS 10,5 will be released two years later ...

It means that there won't be mac OS 10,10 before 2015 or 2016. At this time, we don't know if UNIX will still allow further improvements of the OS.

[psgamer0921]

Originally Posted by Kickaha Why would they stop there? These aren't decimal number, these are build versions that happen to use a period as a separator. The minor build after 10.9 is 10.10, after that, 10.11, then 10.12, and so on. You could just as easily write them 10-9, 10-10, 10-11... does that help? The current OS release would then be 10-3-4.

Well, logically, 10.4 is "ten point forty". If they went to 10.9 ("ten point ninety") and went to 10.10, it's the same number as 10.1

[Wickers]

Originally Posted by psgamer0921 Well, logically, 10.4 is "ten point forty". If they went to 10.9 ("ten point ninety") and went to 10.10, it's the same number as 10.1

I made this mistake once. . . and had my ass handed to me in a small brown paper bag.

Think of it this way. . .the '.' between each number is not repesenting a desimal place. It just seperates build numbers.

[Wickers]

Originally Posted by synotic It will? Where did you hear that? I thought Apple was going to exhaust 10.X until 10.9.

I suggest EVERYONE reading this thread also read (or re-read) a related thread. . .

http://forums.applenova.com/showthread.php?t=170&

[Kickaha]

Originally Posted by psgamer0921 Well, logically, 10.4 is "ten point forty". If they went to 10.9 ("ten point ninety") and went to 10.10, it's the same number as 10.1

No, no, no, no, NO.

You're not getting it.

THESE ARE NOT DECIMAL NUMBERS.

Otherwise, 10.3.4 would be *MEANINGLESS*.

(This needs to be in a FAQ, dammit.)

Build numbers are of the form: Major Build, Minor Build, Patch.

10.3.4 = Major Build 10, Minor Build 3, Patch 4.

The 47th minor build of major build 1 would be 1.47 and would come *AFTER* 1.5.

THESE ARE NOT DECIMAL NUMBERS.

The use of the period to delineate the pieces of the build number is perhaps unfortunate... one could use *any* character.

10,3,4 or 10-3-4, or 10/3/4 mean exactly the same thing as 10.3.4.

So, given that... 10.10 comes after 10.9, and before 10.11, and has *NOTHING* to do with 10.1. Got it?

[Wickers]

what he said.

[synotic]

Originally Posted by \/\/ickes I suggest EVERYONE reading this thread also read (or re-read) a related thread. . . http://forums.applenova.com/showthread.php?t=170&

I didn't see anything that alluded to the fact that Mac OS X as we know is gone and we're moving onto the next generation of Mac OS XI. All I saw were people drawing (IMO) incorrect solutions from facts. The main fact is that it hasn't been said and nobody knows what's coming after Tiger. Keeping that in mind, I don't think Mac OS XI (or whatever) is coming next. First of all, the reasoning for the move was very clearly stated, 1. They are pushing out too many releases and can't sustain the pace they're currently at, and 2. Apple's customers are tired of having to constantly upgrade due to all the new software that "requires" it and the price it costs to be on the leading edge. Also, it's not quoted in that particular article, but Avie also said that they would continue to work "really fast". I don't see Apple as literally slowing down development, but rather working longer on releases. They didn't mention anything about being a large delay until the next generation of Mac OS at which point they would regain their vigorous upgrade cycle. All he said is that we'll have to wait longer between each upgrade cycle. Apple itself has said that they wish to push the Mac OS X brand as long as possible. Maintaining it for 3 or 4 years is not as long as possible. When the next generation of Mac OS is released, I believe it will be following a steady upgrade cycle of Mac OS X, 10.5, 10.6 etc... If Mac OS XI were truly the next upgrade then that would mean one of two things, Mac OS X Tiger would have to last us the next 3, 4, 5 years. I don't see Mac OS X being left stagnant for that amount of time. That would go against "continuing to go really fast". If they relased Mac OS XI in 2 or 3 years, that would completely go against their reasoning of "slackening of the pace" and completely alienate a large portion of their userbase. Already a large portion of Tiger's features rely on computers released in the last 2 years. Features-wise, we are already at what I think is the apex of what can be done with current hardware. As with every generational change, I believe that the next generation of Mac OS would have to push a set of hardware yet unseen by us, just like Windows Longhorn. Again, like I said, nobody outside of Apple knows what's happening after Tiger, so all of this is my personal opinion. Feel free to disagree with it

[Moogs]

It's called a carriage return / paragraph. Learn to embrace them and be happy.



Meantime there will never be an OS XI (3L3ueN). Apple is just going to keep on adding numbers!


10.11 is going to rock in 2014!

[psgamer0921]

I know, but to most people thinking of it in decimals, the sensible thing to think the first time (Hint the word in my last most, logically) is that there are 10 major updates per major build. But yes, I do know what you're trying to say