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kscherer
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2019-11-15, 12:30

Well, I subscribed to Disney+ and the first thing I did with it was watch The Mandalorian with my daughter.

The show had a wild west, Clint Eastwood kind of vibe, although I thought it was just a bit slow moving during the middle act. I did like the way the bounty hunter is humanized, that he actually has some scruples. The effects were excellent, as is always the case with Star Wars things, but the music seemed off. I think the composer was shooting for sci-fi/gunslinger and it comes off just a bit weird.

My only real grumble: Disney seems to be shooting for weekly shows rather than filming a series and dumping it all at once. This is certainly better for maintaining subscription revenue, but HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BINGE-WATCH THE MANDALORIAN?

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pscates2.0
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2019-11-15, 13:29

Does it seem to have a plan or some sort of "we know what we're doing/going" type of arc (as opposed to any of the theatrical releases)?

PS - Swung by to see all the exciting "Rise of Skywalker" discussion sure to be taking place, and fling out a thought or two. As expected - in line with the overall hype/marketing, merchandising, real life discussions I have, etc. - nobody seems to really be giving a rip at this point. After Rian Johnson's little experimental student film two years ago, I can't blame a soul.

Kennedy, Abrams & Co. kicked it in the nuts, dumbed it down, Woke™ it up, got all their ideas/inspiration from 35+ years ago, checked all the boxes that require checking for post-2015 moviemaking, except the ones labeled "coherent, enjoyable story" and "relatable, memorable characters".

Funny, however, that the one saying "purple-haired, suicidal ice queen" made it through with no problem.

Priorities.
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2019-11-15, 13:42

Hi Paul!

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as opposed to any of the theatrical releases
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kscherer
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2019-11-15, 13:50

Holy Crap™!!

Wowzers and yowzers!

It's a Paul!!

Woo and hoo!

Oh, sorry. Just had a minor shart and headsplosion right there. Age, you know.



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Does it seem to have a plan or some sort of "we know what we're doing/going" type of arc (as opposed to any of the theatrical releases)?
So, yeah. There does seem to be some direction to the show. It ended with the idea that this cagey, reckless bounty hunter is somewhat merciful, and will struggle with the immediate future, which seems to involve going against the Bad Guys™. The entire, 30-minute episode felt good and fresh, and left with a cliffhanger thing that makes me want to see episode 2. Heh, Episode 2. That's funny. There is also a "Halo" effect to the show, since the Mandalorian does not remove his helmet. It makes us want him to remove it so we can see the face back there, much as we wanted Master Chief to do so. i like that. There is a mysterious side to it.

As I said, there was a bit where it felt just a little too slow, like maybe they didn't really know who this guy is or his purpose in the SW universe. But I felt like they got back on track toward the end, if perhaps a bit too quickly. I don't want to give things away, so I'll stop with that.

Time will tell if there is anything to it. If this was all that Disney had, I would still subscribe to check it out, but there is a lot of other stuff, including the entirety of The Clone Wars, Star Wars Rebels, and more (even a bunch of Lego stuff).



As far as Episodes 7 & 8 are concerned, I loved 7 and hated 8. With 9 on the near horizon and JJ Abrams in charge, I have A New Hope that the ship may get righted, but it's a small hope. The more I think about the whole thing, the more I realize that 7 was an Episode 4 remake intended to drive the story toward a new, younger audience. But, Episode 8 was this horrific dig at my 40 years of Star Wars fandom. It was an overly political, poorly conceived, disgusting attack on the entirety of the SW universe, and I was insulted to the point that I have not watched it a second time. Seriously, I have seen every other SW movie at least 10 times (even the crap that is 1-3), but I have only seen 8 one time. There is a piece of me that thinks Disney recognizes the damage Episode 8 did and that 9 has to get things back on track, much in the same way that the whole of 1-3 is just kind of ignored, as if it never happened. If 9 bombs, then for me SW will be drilled down to a quadrilogy of movies that spans from Episode 4 through Episode 7, and ends there.



P.S. I should ban you for 24 hours for staying away so damned long!

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pscates2.0
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2019-11-15, 14:03

I'll post my thoughts on Episode 9 over in the "saga ends" thread...
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kscherer
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2019-11-15, 14:07

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I'll post my thoughts on Episode 9 over in the "saga ends" thread...
Ooooooooooooooo …

< kscherer rubs hands in anticipation >
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2019-11-15, 14:23

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...but HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO BINGE-WATCH THE MANDALORIAN?
Exactly. As much as I want to jump in I've decided to wait until after the new year to subscribe so I can at least binge a good portion of the season at once. Was planning to do the same with TV+ but Anna got hooked on The Morning Show (the first-episode-free thing really works as a hook, btw) so I guess we're doing that now.

So it goes.
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2019-11-15, 16:28

I actually appreciate the delay between episodes. When I get to binge watch it the problem is it is more like a movie with intermissions rather than shows.
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kscherer
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2019-12-03, 14:46

Watched Episode 4 last night. This show continues to impress, and I really enjoy the way the main character is written and, although his face is always covered by a helmet, there is a great deal of personality conveyed. My only complaint thus far is the continued use of ex machina to resolve problems that arise. While it can be fun, if overused it gets a touch monotonous and predictable. But, that is my only complaint. The show is stuffed with good, well-timed humor, great effects, fun scenarios, believable characters, good acting, and a storyline that has me "rooting for Boba Fett", which is weird because there is no Boba Fett in this show, but it explains a lot about that long-ago character that has me respecting him and the trials he must have gone through.

This is a good show!

P.S. It's fun to look over at my Star Wars-nerd daughter and see the smile of enjoyment on her face. That makes me

Edit: Also, I wanted to toss in an update to the music complaint I had in my first post. Things are looking up. Music is one of those elements that should never detract from the story. I thought it did that in the first episode, but since then I feel like the music is more harmonic with the story and not distracting.

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kieran
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2019-12-03, 14:54

I absolutely love this show and am kind of happy that it is being spaced out on a weekly basis.

I got my wife to watch strictly by showing her a picture of Baby Yoda and she's still actively watching, so that's a good sign.

I love how this reminds me of Rogue One. it's Star Wars, but not the Skywalker. This is what I was hoping for after Rogue One and I'm honestly happier having them as TV shows rather than stand alone movies.

Super excited to see what else comes down the pipe.

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kscherer
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2019-12-03, 14:59

Yeah, right there with you. The Skywalker saga seems too confusing for Disney to negotiate, but the outlier stuff they are mostly nailing. And, yeah, at this point I am glad for the weekly releases. It spaces the show and gives me something to look forward to. My wife could care less, but my daughter is a huge SW fan and we see all the things together, so it is a good opportunity to hang with her and childishly giggle our collective pants off!

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2019-12-03, 18:34

We have made the Mandalorian our "family" show to watch on Sunday nights. Given how disparate my kids' interests are, it's a minor miracle that they've agreed to watch something together.

I agree about the music. My wife and I both commented on it after the first episode but since then, it's been invisible which is a good thing.

This last episode (the one with the ATST) there were a few plot holes that my kids pointed out but it was still just fun to watch. And my 9 y.o. daughter cannot stop herself from "awwwwww"ing every time baby Yoda is on screen. It's too cute.

And, as "woke" as it may seem, I really appreciate the strong woman characters in this last episode. My daughter needs more of that in her TV watching. It's interesting what we take for granted until we see the world through our kids' eyes.

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kscherer
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2019-12-03, 18:53

I think my first reaction to the female warrior was that she was too strong to be believed. However, after thinking about it I realized that this is the Star Wars universe, which is filled with strong female characters (both human and alien). This one was a bit too strong to be believed at first glance, but I didn't think it felt "woke" any more than Xena Warrior Princess.

The Last Jedi is a different story.

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