[Wild pigeon]

YES or NO ?

It would realy be nice if Apple included iPhoto 5 & iMovie HD.... anny thoughts?

[BuonRotto]

I'm afraid not, my friend.

[Bryson]

Well, seeing as they already sell pretty sucessfully as part of iLife 05, I'd be very surprised if they came with Tiger.

So, NO.

[Wild pigeon]

Wich versions of iPhoto and iMovie do you guys expect then ? both version 4?

[Bryson]

None at all. Tiger is the OS. iPhoto and iMovie are separate software that runs in the OS. You're probably getting confused because iLife is bundled with new machines, along with the OS. But if you just buy the OS upgrade for an existing machine, you won't get the applications as well.

[Wild pigeon]

But iPhoto 2 and iMove 3 are included with 10.3 !?!!

[Bryson]

Not according to the Apple store online. What leads you to this conclusion? Did you buy OS10.3 separately from your machine or did it come with it?

[Wild pigeon]

Originally Posted by Bryson Not according to the Apple store online. What leads you to this conclusion? Did you buy OS10.3 separately from your machine or did it come with it?

Here you are:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/techspecs/

See the list of included applications!

[Bryson]

Fair enough - I consider myself caught out.

I still can't see them including half of iLife for free in the OS upgrade. IIRC, iLife started to be sold separately after Panther was launched. What they want you to do is shell out for iLife 05.

I'll get me coat...

[telekon]

Originally Posted by Bryson Fair enough - I consider myself caught out. I'll get me coat...

Ah, yes but wait. Note these are the only two apps. to be blacked out and no-hyperlinked. Me thinks this is an old list which needs housekeeping properly.

[Wild pigeon]

Well I think iPhoto & iMovie are going to be included for sure!
And it would seem strange for me to include an old version... and if they would include 5 & HD that would really make 10.4 more app for the same buck and you would still need to buy iLife for Garageband & iDVD

[Wild pigeon]

Originally Posted by telekon Ah, yes but wait. Note these are the only two apps. to be blacked out and no-hyperlinked. Me thinks this is an old list which needs housekeeping properly.

See the dutch site: http://www.apple.com/nl/macosx/techspecs/ & German site: http://www.apple.com/de/macosx/techspecs/
no blacked out hyperlinks.....

[telekon]

Originally Posted by Wild pigeon Well I think iPhoto & iMovie are going to be included for sure! And it would seem strange for me to include an old version... and if they would include 5 & HD that would really make 10.4 more app for the same buck and you would still need to buy iLife for Garageband & iDVD

Ah yes but.. would you buy a 5 app. bundle (iLife) if you have three of the titles anyway? (iTunes, iPhoto and iMovie) I really don't think so . Of course, who's to say that with 10.4 being 64bit, that there may be the odd bundled app. with it which makes use of this advanced technology? (excluding Dashboard etc.) :smokey:

[telekon]

Originally Posted by Wild pigeon See the dutch site: http://www.apple.com/nl/macosx/techspecs/ & German site: http://www.apple.com/de/macosx/techspecs/ no blacked out hyperlinks.....

Ok, I'll get my coat as well.

[Wild pigeon]

Originally Posted by telekon Ok, I'll get my coat as well.

Well I seem to live on a nice spot on the globe, because it does'nt rain here

One last thing... look at the this page: http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/mail.html seems like iPhoto 4... but then... when Apple made this "trailer" iPhoto 5 wasn't released yet...

I Think the only option is to ask somebody with the latest seed of tiger...

[JLL]

Originally Posted by Wild pigeon Well I think iPhoto & iMovie are going to be included for sure! And it would seem strange for me to include an old version... and if they would include 5 & HD that would really make 10.4 more app for the same buck and you would still need to buy iLife for Garageband & iDVD

Tiger will not come with any version of iPhoto, iMovie, iDVD or Garageband.

Panther came/comes with iPhoto 2 and iMovie 3.

[ja0912]

You have to remember that Panther was released before "iLife" as a bundle existed.

I don't think it will include anything but iTunes. You already have the versions of these apps that came with your Macs (unless your computer is even older than mine.)